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House Slave/ Field Slave Posted on 05-15-2007
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Do you think that age old house slave/field slave... LIGHT skin is the RIGHT skin... SLAVE mentailty still exists today???
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05-15-2007 06:01PM [Reply]

NeoSoulBrotha
Rosedale, MD
(792) Posts
The entire idea of house Negro / field Negro, light vs. dark, wealthy vs. poor is a fallacy. I'm not talking about the familiar Willie Lynch ideology (sowing discord among Blacks by encouraging classism). Many of the "divisions" in the Black community are simple stereotypes, and often we perpetuate them without thinking about how much sense it makes. Is there classism in Black society? Of course, as there is in every human society. Is there any weight behind it? Not as much as people would think. There will always be those who portray themselves as privileged in an attempt to gain respect, and those who portray themselves as oppressed in an attempt to gain sympathy. The concept of there being some type of social advantage for light-complexioned Blacks or a disadvantage for dark-complexioned Blacks, I think, is very outdated. Historically, this was true, but I don't see much evidence of it now, outside of some superficial men and women wanting a "high yellow" woman or a "dark chocolate" man as a partner. I think the division today is oriented more along the lines of economic class, and Blacks whose customs and behaviors align with "mainstream" or White society. Those who do are seen as "bourgeois" or "sellouts", those who do not are seen as "ghetto" or low class. Both are lies. Most affluent Blacks are hardly out of touch with their identity or history, and go out of their way to maintain it. Most Blacks who are not wealthy are still very intelligent and hardworking. Do not be fooled into buying the stereotypes. The guy in the BMW and Ralph Lauren khakis is probably funding the African American museum in your hometown; the one in the white tee on the corner probably has enough business sense to put an MBA to shame.

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05-21-2007 07:38PM [Reply]
kasells

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Wow, the guy above put everything out there that I would've said: thank you :-)
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05-21-2007 10:08PM [Reply]
SuperFly

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Excellent answer, however, it did not completely address the question asked. We all know that the mentality is wrong. However, it does, in fact, still exist. While it may not be so prevalent outside of the Southeastern United States , its still quite rampant in a lot of places (especially in places that are not metropolitan areas). Many of these cities/towns are like taking a step back 50 years. It also has a lot to do with the generation that you're dealing with. Many older people (especially down here) would look at the likes of you and I and swear out that "because you got that light skin" we're automatically a good catch. I doubt anything like this will ever go away. Only because the slavery of Africans was not limited to the United States. While the mentality is not was widely seen in other places, also exists in some Hispanic countries as well.

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05-31-2009 06:02AM [Reply]
AllPeople
New York, NY
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. It is high time that the world came to know that the false idea that the house slaves were of a light-skin coloring and / or tone is a TOTAL URBAN MYTH. Here is a link to a commentary on that very same subject --- CLICK HERE FOR RELATED LINK --- .
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05-31-2009 06:08AM [Reply]
AllPeople
New York, NY
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. Since mention was made of the topic of ‘house and ‘field’ slave — I just wanted to note that — actually — this false concept that so many people have — that the lighter-complexioned chattel slaves “had it easier” or “thought they were better” than the darker-complexioned slaves – and / or “relaxed in the big house” while the darker-complexioned slaves “suffered in the fields” — is very much like the infamous ‘Willie Lynch Letter’ Hoax) all VERY MUCH AN URBAN MYTH (and is one which, in nearly every way that’s possible, completely defies the true historical recorded account. The historical record shows that those enslaved people who were of a lighter-complexion (i.e. mulatto-lineage) and that were found on the continental United States during the antebellum (chattel slavery) era were actually treated MUCH, MUCH WORSE than were those enslaved people who were of a darker-complexion. In fact, record shows that most of the White people (specially the White women) tended to look upon the lighter-complexioned slaves as being mere ‘mongrels of miscegenation’ (resulting largely from the rapes caused by overseers); in their disgust at the sight of these slaves — insisted that they be “banished to the fields”; and also then purposefully reserved most of the ‘big house’ positions (ex. mammy, cook, driver, etc) for the darker-complexioned slaves — who most of the White people perceived as being “more loyal, docile, less competitive” – and, equally important, of a skin tone which could never cause them to be mistaken for ‘white’ or a possible member of the plantation owners’ own family. And this maltreatment was generally even much more so the case if the lighter-complexioned enslaved person was ’suspected’ (by a wife, sister or daughter — who ran “the big house”, while a ‘male’ family member ran “the plantation”) of possibly being the offspring of a plantation owner (or his son, father or brother). In addition, the few lighter-complexioned enslaved people that were actually permitted to do any work within the house were – as punishment for having the lowly status of “mongrel” and in order to make sure they did not become “too uppity” — kept under much more severe supervision (by both the White women who ran the plantation household and also by the darker-complexioned enslaved people) and under much more severe work detail than were most of the (more trusted) darker-complexioned enslaved people. Books by Deborah Gray White; Paula Giddings; J. California Cooper; bell hooks’, etc. expose the truth about the urban-myth and show that the lighter slaves received NO special treatment and were (as mere “mongrels of miscegenation”) usually treated much worse than were darker-complexioned slaves. Hope this information is helpful & that everyone has a great day. – AP (soaptalk@hotmail.com) Generation-Mixed : A group for all Multi-racials everywhere MGM-Mixed : Multi-Generational Multi-Racially Mixed FGM-Mixed : First Generation Multiracially-Mixed Related Links: Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Answers (see ‘best answer’) Yahoo! Answers (see ‘best answer’) Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups .
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11-19-2011 07:00PM [Reply]
AllPeople
New York, NY
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Hi,

Based on the data you have posted on this topic --
I thought that you might also enjoy reading (and, 
perhaps, even sharing) the following information .

-- AllPeople (AP) G.i.f.t.s.
soaptalk@hotmail.com
Founder and Moderator of the following 
online Lineage-Discussion Communities
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MGM-Mixed 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FGM-Mixed 
http://www.youtube.com/user/APGifts 

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Listed below are links to data on the Historical MYTH 
of a Color-Based / Slave-Role HIERARCHY — as well 
as the Urban LEGEND of Paper-Bag, Blue-Vein and 
Other Allegations of Features-Based Entry ‘TESTS’
(in regards to the antebellum-era, continental U.S.):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4153 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4154 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/2885 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/2511 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1400 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4154 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4153 

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmulatto.htm 
http://renegadesouth.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/exploring-the-many-facets-of-mixed-race-identity 
http://www.library.pitt.edu/freeatlast/fugitive_laws.html 

Here is a brief COMMENTARY on 
 the constant misapplication
 (to 
the people who are of part-Black 
/ Mixed-Race Lineage) of 
the racist ‘One-Drop Rule’
**:




  • ... THE FACTS are as follows:


    1) It is often a surprise for people to learn that, in reality, there 
    is actually No Such Thing As a "Light Skinned Black"
     person.

    2) Very few people seem to be aware of the fact that the term
    "Light Skinned Black" is really nothing more than a racist
    oxymoron created
     by Racial Supremacists in an effort to
    forcibly deny those Mixed-Race individuals, who are of
    a Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed (MGM-Mixed)
    lineage, the right to
     fully embrace and to also received
    public support in choosing to acknowledge the truth
    regarding their full ancestral heritage and lineage.


    3) The people who have been slapped with the false label and
    oxymoronic misnomer of "Light Skinned Black"
     person are simply
    Mixed-Race individuals -- who are from families that have been
    CONTINUALLY Mixed-Race THROUGHOUT multiple generations.


    4) Seeing that every other Mixed-Race group is allowed the dignity
    of receiving support in having itself referred to by the term that
    it most prefers – the question becomes “Why should the
    situation be any different for those Mixed-Race
    individuals who are of an Multi-Generational
    Multiracially-Mixed (MGM-Mixed) lineage?
    ”.


    5) If an MGM-Mixed individual would like to be referred to by the
    term ‘Mixed-Race’ (which is what they actually are) rather than by
    that of “Light-Skinned Black“
     (a term, which, once again, has the
    racist-origin of being nothing more than an oxymoronic-phrase that
    was both created and coined by Racial Supremacists in an effort to
    try to deny these Mixed-Race people their right to and support in
    publicly acknowledging and also embracing their FULL-Lineage)
    there is no reason that they (like every other group on the planet
    -- whether Mixed-Race or not) should not be allowed the right

    to choose the term that society uses in referring to them
    (and to have their full-lineage acknowledged within that term).


    RELATED LINKS:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1399 
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/2511 
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1402
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1574
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1003
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3998
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4065
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3999
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1400 

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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4154 
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4153 

    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmulatto.htm 
    http://renegadesouth.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/exploring-the-many-facets-of-mixed-race-identity 
    http://www.library.pitt.edu/freeatlast/fugitive_laws.html 

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    --- AllPeople (AP) Gifts
    soaptalk@hotmail.com
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MGM-Mixed
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FGM-Mixed
    http://www.youtube.com/user/APGifts
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    AllPeople
    New York, NY
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    .

    Listed below are links to information on the topic 
    of the history of 'Race'; 'Mixed-Race', 'Interracial 
    Marriages / Relationships'' etc. found in the U.S.:  
    .
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4162 
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4160
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4157 
    .
    http://www.facebook.com/allpeople.gifts/posts/309460495741441 
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4152 
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4153 
    .
    http://www.facebook.com/allpeople.gifts/posts/272938769421484 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4180
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4179
    .
    http://www.facebook.com/notes/­allpeople-gifts/the-facts-on-m­ixed-race/321878451159708 
    .

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    EMoss
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