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Would our ancestors be proud of the people we are today?

I guess that we should figure out what we have become today before we could answer this question. So, what do you all think our ancestors would have desired that we be today? Well, I would think that they would want that we would be the opposite of what they were in all respects. Now, we know that they were slaves, so naturally they would not want us to be as they were.

Now, let me give my personal opinion. I know that 99% of us today are proud to be a part of White America instead of having complete independence and being White Americaís allied. I also know that our enslaved ancestors had not a choice but to be a part of White America. So, has anything changed from the fate our ancestors had to the fate we are living today?

So, do you think that they would be overwhelmed if we were a sovereign people or was completely independent from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity?

I must say that it baffles to me how these questions turn all of you off, why is that. You all blogs about everything except the future of our future children. Since this is the case, it would not take a rocket scientist to figure out that Black Americans do not have a future, am I right.

Tell me what you think.
Posted By: Harry Watley
Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 9:54AM
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GoodDay Mr. Whatley,
in 1864 negros were slaves, in 1865 those ancestors chose the Masters solution.
I AM NOT PROUD OF THOSE SLAVES.
Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 10:32AM
robert powell
Hello Mr. Powell,

I read over a couple of times your comment. I do not quite understand what you are saying. Would you rephrase your thought for me?

Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 12:23PM
Harry Watley
Having sovereignity and being completely independent from "White" America on the western hemisphere; a place to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity is a dream that even the ancestors would never have agreed or delibrated upon. Globalization has set a different trend in this millienia and the economics/politics invloved are things that can not even be fathomed to begin a new birth. Rather seek a round table and emancipation/uhuru would come from there
Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 1:47PM
Diallo Delavegas
The first hint of globalization was the African Diaspora, i.e. the "Middle Passage" that brought us here in the first place, not in the name of God, but of commerce. The deification of the so-called "Founding Fathers" and their "wisdom" is disingenuous: they were slave owners, did not want women or minorities voting as they understood federalism and could not fathom the country we are today and the leader it elected.

In part 2 of an interview with activist Grace Lee Boggs, she states: "Itís critical; itís not just a part. Itís pivotal, because Detroit, with the devastation of deindustrialization, gave us the space and place to begin anew. And we were forced to think very differently about what it means to be a human being and what it means to create a world that embraces and enlarges and expands us as human beings.

"And we didnít choose to be that. I mean, we were once the miracle, a sign of the international symbol of the miracles of industrialization. And then we became the international symbol of the devastation of deindustrialization. So we had to begin anew. And we looked at our vacant lots, and we saw them as an opportunity to begin growing our own food."

Every time we pay out money to a grocery: Kroger, Wal-Mart, HEB, Target - we pay a corporation for the privilege of bringing us food we used to grow for ourselves. My grandmother raised and killed chickens. As we've advanced, we've made slavery palatable as long as we are comfortable.
Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 4:21PM
Reginald Goodwin
Hello Mr. Delavegas,

Let me ask you, whom would Black Americans who are descendents of slaves seek to have this roundtable discussion with that perhaps emancipation/uhuru could grow?

What say you?

Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 5:43PM
Harry Watley
Hello Mr. Goodwin,

Are you responding to Mr. Delevagas comment since you explain to him that globalization is not something new and that Africans being transported all over the world to be use as human slaves is indicative of globalization? I agree with your premise.

However, further on in your comment you mentioned that [we] were the symbol of the miracle of industrialization, and then we became the international symbol of the devastation of industrialization. Who is this [we] you are referring? I presume it is White America, but I want to be sure.

What say you?


Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 5:59PM
Harry Watley
I love these young guys that use the term globilization, makes them feel modern or new school I suppose.
Pleeze, taking an african and paying him nothing in america is globilization just like paying an indian phd to answer your IT problem for $100.00 a month is globilization.
Mr. Whatley I apologize but I cannot feel sorry for a bunch of raped, beat, sold slaves who decide when they have a choice to accept christianity and the god and ways of their masters. I am not proud of them, or any of their ancestors that think the same.
Tuesday, September 22nd 2009 at 11:09PM
robert powell
Hello Mr. Powell,

I believe I understand why you would not have empathy for a bunch of raped, beaten and sold slaves because they chose their slave mastersí god (Jesus Christ) as their way of salvation.

I accept that your reasoning is rational. However, I believe psychologically speaking you are making a mistake. I believe that the trauma of slavery severely damaged the ground floor mentality of Black Americans. In other words, they were stripped of common sense reasoning. Another way to look at what I am saying is to apply the Stockholm syndrome disorder.

Consequentially, I have sympathy since I am one of the very few that thinks out of the box and I recognize that you as well thinks out of the box. However, I do not allow emotions to cloud my thinking where as you do. So, I do understand what you are saying. You are saying that it is so stupid of Black Americans to accept the direction pointed out by the old slave master and White Americans today that would lead to Black Americaís salvation. It is simply irrational reasoning, but as I said, Black Americans are not rational thinkers.

I as well have a problem communicating rationally with Black Americans. It is simply irrational that I would tell Black Americans that sovereignty on a portion of this continent is our only permanent solution to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way for ourselves and they would see me as someone who does not mean them any good. I would ask Black Americans that they ought to be thinking that it is about time they have their hands on the wheel of our own destiny and they would become horrified at me.

Now, about the young male student, Mr. Diallo Delavegas, He is young and without wisdom and understanding. The only attention that should be paid to him is to correct his thinking.

Tell me what you think.







Wednesday, September 23rd 2009 at 1:25AM
Harry Watley
Robert count me in with you. Again, we have proof of this wonderful education provided for free to our children. Mr. Diallo Delavegas, have you read the "Marshall Plan"? If so, what is the difference between Globalization(Multi-National Corporations) and the Marshall plan.
Wednesday, September 23rd 2009 at 9:37AM
Harry, It is an honor commenting on your blogs. You do not censor(delete) comments, that are in disagreement with you. Thank You
Wednesday, September 23rd 2009 at 9:43AM
Hello Earl,

Thank you for your words. I believe in having a balance, that is anyone has a right and the opportunity to disagree with me. All that I ask is that you would rationally support your disagreement. Therefore, I will never delete anyoneís adverse comment to any of my blogs or anything that I say.

Wednesday, September 23rd 2009 at 1:52PM
Harry Watley
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