The Facts Behind The Saggin Pants Craze.
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Posted By: WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III on August 15, 2007 There was a time when having your underwear exposed might have caused great embarrassment. Today people show their underwear on purpose and with pride because it's deemed fashionable. And it's called saggin', wearing pants below the waist so that underwear is in full view. The fashion actually transitioned from prison culture, said author-youth advocate Judge Greg Mathis of the "Judge Mathis" show. "In prison you aren't allowed to wear belts to prevent self-hanging or the hanging of others," said Mathis, who at 17 once served eight months in jail. "They take the belt and sometimes your pants hang down. The same with no shoestrings in your shoes. You aren't allowed to have shoestrings. Many cultures of the prison have overflowed into the community unfortunately." Saggin' also has sexual connotations in prison. "Those who pulled their pants down the lowest and showed their behind a little more raw, that was an invitation," said Mathis. "[The youth] don't know this part about it. I always tease and tell them that they better be careful because some man who has been in prison 30 years who comes home and doesn't know any different may think it's an open invitation." Pastor Dianne Robinson of Jacksonville, FL, is a crusader against the saggin' look. "I think it is a very disrespectful act," she said. "Sometimes they have on two and three pairs of underwear and most of the time it's not clean." Advertisement The 64-year-old Robinson, founder of the Nanas and Papas Raising Grands Organization, has launched a campaign to end saggin'. She has started a belt collection for young men called "Pull Up Your Pants--Need Some Help, Here's A Belt!" On June 4, she plans to collect belts at the Ribault Family Resource Center at Ribault High School in Jacksonville. "It has gotten out of hand. People want to say something, but I think they are complacent," she said. "It's like a fad, but they don't understand where it came from. It was easy access in prison and it let the rest of the population know they were taken. It came from being connected to someone. A lot of guys don't know this. Every time I see a young man with saggin' pants, I wonder, 'What are you up to? What are you really up to?'" Robinson isn't the only one fighting the fashion. Last year a Dallas school trustee recommended a ban of the fashion at a City Council meeting. In 2004 a Louisiana lawmaker proposed House Bill 1626, also known as the Baggy Pants Bill. It would have fined offenders up to $175 or given community service. The Virginia Senate considered imposing a $50 free on people who reveal their underwear to the masses. None of the bills passed. A Florida senator is currently trying to sponsor legislation to ban saggin' at public schools. Mathis said the style is part of a destructive subculture. "Young people have given up on society as a result of the obstacles they face. Instead of fighting back, they join the subculture of drugs and crime as a means of what they believe will uplift them from poverty. So you have this inner change of what is cool and hip in the 'hood and what is cool and hip in prison. You have a rotating door." He added, "I want to challenge our Brothers to pull up their pants and lift up their head ... We're no longer slaves. We are free to fight back, and that's what we must do." By Margena A. Christian JET MAGAZINE COPYRIGHT 2007 Johnson Publishing Co. COPYRIGHT 2007 Gale Group If you enjoyed this article, Join HBCU CONNECT today for similar content and opportunities via email! |
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WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
CRT 1st Response Case Manager, Mental Health Care,, Florida A&M University class of 1995 Member Since February 2004 |
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I'll be the first to comment here. I was at the Library and I came across the Jet magazine section and had to read this article. This is one of my pet-peeves, the sagging pants thing. When I worked for the Department of Juvenile Justice in Florida, I was well known and respected by the youth there because I would deduct points, comment and write up kids that had their pants sagging. We had a contract with Chicago and the city would ship kids down to us to keep them safe from gang retaliation when they got busted. We had youth that had broken any kind of law you could think of... When the kids would see me coming or knew I was on shift they would warn each other and respected my position on this issue. I see it everywhere from the streets to in Church. My question is if you are not gay why wear a dress??? Riddle me that? Have you not noticed guys and girls that carry themselves as street, gangsta, rough and tough that act effeminate if male and masculine if female? And not taking away from their toughness because they are well known in the streets as not being someone to be taken lightly. It seems like each group of guys that carry themselves as "Badboys" have a guy that has questionable feminine ways they carry themselves and are rumored to go both ways. Is it due as one aspect to wearing pants saggy? If you dress a boy as a girl long enough... I get tired of seeing attractive sisters with education, good jobs, go to Church etc. and their men wear sagging pants, beat on them, make babies, play around, burn them and the young lady states she wants a "Badboy" but a good man??? What a canceling affect, bad (-), good (+) which = a 0 for those of you into science, math etc. Not all but enough to be noticed in most places and then the white youth follow the culture and we see black sisters with sagging pants and boxers, underwear or g-strings but they demand respect? And respect should come regardless but for the average male out there... Any way, just my quick 2 cents of thought on this. Please feel free to comment honestly and respectfully as you like. Wednesday, August 15th 2007 at 4:41PM |
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I think it is the most disgusting fashion trend of today along the bootie shorts female wear or hip hugging jeans to expose their underwear (g-strings) intentionally I feel there is nothing wrong with bagging pants as long as your actual underwear and behind is not showing. Wednesday, August 15th 2007 at 7:49PM |
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Hi Ms. Yuvetter, appreciate the blog comment and pleasure to meet you on here. I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with baggy and I wear/prefer my clothes to be loose fit as well. It makes it tough on Women in general who command respect when so many (not all) young, middle and older women follow the dictates of what some men want to see them in. White society views this and the world and they automatically assume we are a base culture of people in general but then we as a people talk about "Black Pride"??? The dress wear that you comment here on has become very popular in many different settings. Many of these females become victims themselves. I think we can all talk about what we have known to happen from home, to colleges and what we here on t.v., media etc. Not all, but enough. The way one dresses and I did not create what society has created still leaves impressions on people in general. Each generation has it's own culture trends, I had mine and I wear 2 parts; I know someone can say something about that. But where is the line? Wednesday, August 15th 2007 at 8:27PM |
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This need to be emphasized over and over again, plus what are the parents doing. Another issue is kids having kids. :(
Wednesday, August 15th 2007 at 8:55PM |
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Hi candice, been a minute, hope all is well for you Sis, appreciate the comments as always. A great point you add in about "Where are the parents?" and the issues of kids having kids. I know in the Bible the Scripture states about the older men are suppose to teach the younger men and the older women are suppose to teach the younger women... Titus 2:1-8. In todays society we have our share of some great parents but on average, not... Just view the world around us. Thursday, August 16th 2007 at 7:32PM |
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I've spoken to a few "parents" of "rebelizers", and let me tell you, I'd walk away even more frustrated after being told that that's just the way "young people do things today." What kind of answer is that? Where's the parenting in such a comment? Well, in my opinion, the parenting is left "back in the day," as parents giving vague explanations about what is acceptable behavior of today's youth seem to be more and more of parents "living vicariously through" their child/children. And that's my two-cents. Jane P.S. Thanks, William, for posting! Monday, August 20th 2007 at 10:39PM |
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Hey Jane, appreciate the blog response. Good to see you Sis. I feel you on what you are saying, there are parents out there that will tell you off, ignorance breeds ignorance. Funny thing Sis, from my experiences they all end up in Church praying when all the negative comes behind it... Saturday, October 6th 2007 at 5:00AM |
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Hi Ms. Shantell, appreciate you as a young lady yourself giving your perspective and having the courage to stand for what is decent and what is not...
Saturday, October 6th 2007 at 5:34AM |
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Hey Toney, man thank you for adding to the (+) presence of this blog with more historical facts, man I thot when I 1st posted this blog that I would receive my share of counter arguments. I am honored that more than a few people share my thots and concerns.
Saturday, October 6th 2007 at 5:36AM |
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