umm with ya till the US part, how canyou tell that by a picture, a picture does not determine your blackness or how much you LIKE black people, if that aint the most backwards ish :? ....and how you gonna choose that indian looking chick from south africa with the long straight hair??..and say she's more black,
ironic you gonna pick the chick with the ONLY NATURAL HAIR on the whole damn board and question her blackness :roll:
Actually, alot of them appear to have natural hair to me. Some of them just have a different grade of hair so it isn't considered "natural" according to our standards. Some women just do not have coarse hair or a kinkier texture. Or even if someone's hair is straight, that doesn't mean that it isn't natural.
As for the one that is representing America, i think she's beautiful as well. Blackness comes in all shades, hues, and colors. I can understand the whole thing with America seeing her type as the representation of beauty in our culture, but how is the perception of a whole society any fault on her part? She can't help how and to whom she was born, and her skintone shouldn't be a reason to take away from her beauty OR her blackness.
But newho, lovely women...truly. I think they are ALL gorgeous.
One BIIGGGGGGGG Question...
How can you be considered not BLACK ENOUGH?!!!
Please let me know!
You all are making a lot of assumptions about these people based on their pictures! Every black person's hair IS NOT naturally ****. What's wrong with straightening your hair? let me know...
Also Im very conscious of my black heritage, and strive to represent my race the best I can, BUT I wear my hair straightened... Sometimes I do a curly style, but most of the time I wear it straight and I PREFER it straight. So what the HAY YEL does wearin your hair natural have to do with how proud you are of your African roots?????
I go to famu and half of our students have locks or natural hair, but that does not determine whether an individual is misguided or not. I see students every day with fros, braids, and locks who are hindering our peoples growth more than embracing their culture and seeking to help us advance.
umm with ya till the US part, how canyou tell that by a picture, a picture does not determine your blackness or how much you LIKE black people, if that aint the most backwards ish :? ....and how you gonna choose that indian looking chick from south africa with the long straight hair??..and say she's more black,
ironic you gonna pick the chick with the ONLY NATURAL HAIR on the whole damn board and question her blackness :roll:
Actually, alot of them appear to have natural hair to me. Some of them just have a different grade of hair so it isn't considered "natural" according to our standards. Some women just do not have coarse hair or a kinkier texture. Or even if someone's hair is straight, that doesn't mean that it isn't natural.
As for the one that is representing America, i think she's beautiful as well. Blackness comes in all shades, hues, and colors. I can understand the whole thing with America seeing her type as the representation of beauty in our culture, but how is the perception of a whole society any fault on her part? She can't help how and to whom she was born, and her skintone shouldn't be a reason to take away from her beauty OR her blackness.
But newho, lovely women...truly. I think they are ALL gorgeous.
One BIIGGGGGGGG Question...
How can you be considered not BLACK ENOUGH?!!!
Please let me know!
You all are making a lot of assumptions about these people based on their pictures! Every black person's hair IS NOT naturally ****. What's wrong with straightening your hair? let me know...
Also Im very conscious of my black heritage, and strive to represent my race the best I can, BUT I wear my hair straightened... Sometimes I do a curly style, but most of the time I wear it straight and I PREFER it straight. So what the HAY YEL does wearin your hair natural have to do with how proud you are of your African roots?????
I go to famu and half of our students have locks or natural hair, but that does not determine whether an individual is misguided or not. I see students every day with fros, braids, and locks who are doing hindering our peoples growth more than embracing their culture and seeking to help us advance.
I agree completely
And like Megan said...these women were competing with women from alllll over the place. And while we're busy nitpicking over something as trivial as skintone and hair, please believe that they are supporting their own.
what is some of yall's problems??...i am not making an assumptION ON ANYTHING, but for the other person to respond about miss black USA not being black enough because of her appearance i responded....
of course hair doesnt equal blackness, DUHHHH, but what i was SAYING was that it was ironic that this person is making assumptions on someone when miss USA could be a future leader of the black panthers or something and the others could be uncle toms for all he knows, just because you live in a certain region dont make you "black"....and about the hair, I WAS MEANING SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO APPEARS TO WHITE SOCIETY, HECK ANYONE ACROSS THE WORLD TO HAVE TYPICALLY AFRICAN HAIR, TYPICALLLLLLY PEOPLE!, all those other contestants can come over here and people from all OVER would immediately think they are relaxed , NOT QUESTIONING THEIR BLACKNESS or their original grade of hair...but i was just saying it was ironic he's gonna choose the one person, who's hair LOOKS TYPICALLY of the african nature and try to label her as non-black and not know ONE DAMN THING ABOUT HER she could be either OR, but i was trying to question how he could do that
the thing is the person I WAS RESPONDING to decided to insult someone because of the way they looked which he said "didnt look black enough", ...and somehow cafe, you got offended, even though we are SAYING THE SAME THING, so hell if i know :arrow:
and to phoenix--obviously you need to check your miss america history because previously we have had like 2 or 3 DARK skinned black usa WINNERS, including kenya moore, SOUTH AFRICA ON THE OTHER HAND usually picks white people, or very lightskinned individuals who look white or indian, never in their history have they EVER EVER picked a person like kenya moore, so sorry for you
WHY ARE PEOPLE ACCUSING ME OF ASSUMING, WHEN YALL ARE ASSUMING ABOUT WHAT I MEANT TO BEGIN WITH! gooooodddddddaammmnnnnn....please people, stop the drama *smh*
and IF YOU DONT FEEL LIKE READIN MY RANT AND RAVE UP ABOVE, TO SUM IT ALL UP...what i meant was
how is phoenix gonna talk about miss america not looking "black enough" and then sit around and pick contestants who "LOOK" similarily LIKE HER and praise their "blackness", people have tastes and all...but comeon now, thats almost foolish :roll:
^^^ :lol: :lol: . Woo woo woo Shoya
No, don't get me wrong. I wasn't accusing u of making assumptions. I saw someone else say something about "natural hair" in a post, and i noticed it in yours as well, so i just wanted to speak on it. A lot of my post was more geared towards the perception of "blackness" and how we are so quick to determine if someone is "black enough". I totally agree with you when u say that we shouldn't judge the American contestant from just one lil ole picture. We shouldn't judge any of them for that matter. Fact of the matter is, all of these women have some type of Black/African blood in them. Therefore, they are BLACK. Who am I as a human being to validate someone's blackness? It's time to elevate people
Shoya,
umm, it has NOTHING to do with her hair-- which actually, is the ONLY thing that looked attractive to me; she look's like all the "black" women that are normally "selected" to represent our women-- light skinned oreos--. O' girl was not "Black" enough for me.
Why couldn't the woman from America look like Lauryn Hill, Erika Baudu, or Lisa Bonet, even, with her locs. Why is the representative from America light-skinned with natural curly hair? I'm just tired of our people always selecting the less-ethnic looking sistahs. Do you have a problem with that, Shoya? Would you complain, too, if I selected one of the sister's with shaven heads? Thn you'd state I like light/white looking women only. Anyhow, the two shaven-headed women were more attractive to me visually, than that typical bi-racial looking chica from America.
Can't please everyone all of the time...oh...I am NOT suppose to please anyone but myself--each to their own, and all that other ish.
Oh, why do you think someone with straight hair DID something to it--you need to check out your African/Caribbean sistas a little more--everyone with beautiful skin in all shades of brown does not have **** hair--mixed or not mixed. There YOU go stereotyping :arrow:
You do understand these contestants were competing against women of other ethnicities as well, such as China, Ireland, and Lithuania. So Miss USA went against all types of women as well and she wasn't chosen by Blacks. This wasn't just a Black competition.
thankyou...but even if it was a black competition and she was still chosen would we have such a problem with her looks??....i really think everyone is beautiful and just for her winning as A BLACK WOMAN is a big accomplishment in and OF ITSELF!...I mean if she won in jamaica, no biggie, but in ameriKKKA, thats a GIGANTIC FEAT!
^^^ :lol: :lol: . Woo woo woo Shoya
No, don't get me wrong. I wasn't accusing u of making assumptions. I saw someone else say something about "natural hair" in a post, and i noticed it in yours as well, so i just wanted to speak on it. A lot of my post was more geared towards the perception of "blackness" and how we are so quick to determine if someone is "black enough". I totally agree with you when u say that we shouldn't judge the American contestant from just one lil ole picture. We shouldn't judge any of them for that matter. Fact of the matter is, all of these women have some type of Black/African blood in them. Therefore, they are BLACK. Who am I as a human being to validate someone's blackness? It's time to elevate people
lol thanks for clearing that up, i was just trying to say the same thing!
