Echoes of Thunder wrote:

Granted I know more about Christianity than even some of the most devout believers...but this guy totally obliterated me, which, even though I'm only 19, is no easy task. I am in awe of his knowledge and his ability to connect things. I wish to be intelligent like this one day.

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-Both were “born” on the 25th of December (that date comes to Christ through Mithras)

not true. nowhere in the bible is Jesus said to have been born on December 25. If you really have "studied" the Bible you would have noticed this fact: Jesus died at age 33 1/2 on the night of Nisan 14/15, aka Passover. This usually is late March/early April. If you count 6 months to make him 34, you will find that he must have been born in late September/early October. The whole idea of Jesus being born on Dec. 25 was Constanstinople's attempt , around the 3rd century a.d., to reconcile "christianity" with the pagan doctrines of the Greeks and Romans, Dec. 25 being the Saturnalia, or festival of the Sun God(sun/Son, get it?)

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-Both were crucified and died for man's sins.

the original Greek term for Jesus's death instrument is sty-kos, translated "upright pole, tree, stake". nowhere in the original Greek language of the scriptures is the word for a crossbeam used. This was an adaptation also added around the 3rd century a.d. to reconcile Jesus with paganism, as the use of a Cross in religion dates back to Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Mesopotamia, and Olmec nations. the Babylonian god Tam-muz was venerated with a crossbeam, eternal life in Egypt with an Ankh. evolution of the use of a cross in Babylonian and Mesopotamian religion, with th4th cross depicting the sun/son(circle) as the head of religion, and the 5th cross putting the symbol INSIDE of the sun/son(circle) Egyptian Ankh, symbol of eternal life. compare to "christian" cross

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-Chrishna Zeus and Christ Jesus are very similar names, leading some to speculate that Jesus Christ as we know him never existed, and that his myth was based on the myth of Chrishna Zeus.

Jesus, in Greek, is I-e-sous. in Hebrew, its Ye-shu-a. This was a common name among Jews at the time of his birth. Krist-os(Christ) is just the Greek translation of the Hebrew word Mes-chi-ah(Messiah), meaning "Savior"

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-Both were....omnipotent/quote] Jesus isn't omnipotent. he said "the Father is greater than i am."While human, he got hungry, thirsty, tired, needed help carrying his torture stake.

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-Christ was the “alpha and the omega.” Not to be outdone, Chrishna was “the Beginning, the Middle and the End.”

to be the alpha(beginning) and the omega(end), he would've had to always have existed. Jesus was God's (YHWH, Jehovah, Yahweh) first creation, meaning he had a beginning. so God, not Jesus, is the alpha and omega.

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Under this point of view, we can see Christ as a Hindu savior, or we can speculate that the historical Jesus never existed at all, and that His myth was built around the Chrishna myth. Either way, Christianity is just a bad regurgitation of old heathen ideas

there has been archeological finding testifying to the historic accuracy of Jesus's existence. Yes, it is true, over the years many heathen practices have been grafted in under the guise of "Christianity"(celebration of holidays with pagan roots, veneration of the cross, Mary worship, trinitarianism, christiandom's role in politics). but that doesn't mean whawt was said in the bible is false.

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For some reason, Christianity has become a joke to some people, whether it be media or messageboards and I don't know about anyone else, but I find it totally disrespectful. I don't hear people disrespectng Judiasm or Hinduism as much. To me it's the same feeling as when someone doubts me because of my race.

"Echoes of Thunder" wrote:

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However, Christianity gets attacked for multiple reasons. One, because it has managed to stray extremely far away from the core belief of God. And it's everchanging values make it even easier to attack. I attack Christianity because it does not condone that activity, it just says "Confess, and your sins shall be rinsed from your soul". It sounds all good and dandy, but think about how often we break the 10 commandments, then you will have a strong idea of it's a hippie religion. Christianity is now made to please the people. When we should be the ones pleasing Christianity. Thunder

I agree with you. But there is a difference between Chrisitanity and Christiandom. Christiandom is what you are referring to, that which has been corrupted by ever-changing value systems, incorporating doctrines that are not endorsed by the bible, practicing things that are expressively forbidden in the bible. It is a power structure(think"holy roman empire") that has has become as political as any other party, in that relgious leaders bless troops, collectively vote polititcians in office, and turn a blind eye to immorality. They are going against what Jesus told us, to "be no part of the world". Chrisitanity is the practice of what teachings are held in the Bible, both old and new testiment. God doesn't forgive you of your sins if you "confess". You are forgiven sins if you demonstrate REPENTANCE, which means a conversion from sin. It's the difference between saying "i'm sorry" and actually apologizing and seeking to right your wrongs. Now if you confess that you raw dawg'd your husband's best friend the night b4 yall honeymoon, that means nothing if you plan on doing it again, and LIKED what you did, and smile when u think of that night. If u confess you are a liar, that means nothing if you're plannin on claiming someone not dependant on u on your FAFSA. And even if you don't sin with your actions, dwelling on sinful thoughts is just as bad, so to be repentant, u would have to police ya thoughts to, lest u commit "adultery of the heart" Christianity isn't a burdensom formality. Its a lifestyle. Sadly, many people are members of Christiandom instead of practicers of Christianity.

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not true. nowhere in the bible is Jesus said to have been born on December 25. If you really have "studied" the Bible you would have noticed this fact

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the original Greek term for Jesus's death instrument is sty-kos, translated "upright pole, tree, stake". nowhere in the original Greek language of the scriptures is the word for a crossbeam used. This was an adaptation also added around the 3rd century a.d. to reconcile Jesus with paganism, as the use of a Cross in religion dates back to Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Mesopotamia, and Olmec nations. the Babylonian god Tam-muz was venerated with a crossbeam, eternal life in Egypt with an Ankh.

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"The other disciples therefore were saying to him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I shall see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe,"

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"And as they were coming out, they found a man of Cyrene named Simon, whom they pressed into service to bear His cross,"

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"Therefore the soldiers did these things. But there were standing by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene,"

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Jesus, in Greek, is I-e-sous. in Hebrew, its Ye-shu-a. This was a common name among Jews at the time of his birth. Krist-os(Christ) is just the Greek translation of the Hebrew word Mes-chi-ah(Messiah), meaning "Savior"

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to be the alpha(beginning) and the omega(end), he would've had to always have existed. Jesus was God's (YHWH, Jehovah, Yahweh) first creation, meaning he had a beginning. so God, not Jesus, is the alpha and omega.

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This symbol was suggested by the Apocalypse, where Christ, as well as the Father, is "the First and the Last" (ii, 8]; "the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end" (cf., xxii, 13; i, 8]. Clement of Alexandria speaks of the Word as "the Alpha and the Omega of Whom alone the end becomes beginning, and ends again at the original beginning without any break" (Strom., IV, 25). Tertullian also alludes to Christ as the Alpha and Omega (De Monogamiâ, v), and from Prudentius (Cathemer., ix, 10) we learn that in the fourth century the interpretation of the apocalyptic letters was still the same: "Alpha et Omega cognominatus, ipse fons et clausula, Omnium quae sunt, fuerunt, quaeque post futura sunt." It was, however, in the monuments of early Christianity that the symbolic Alpha and Omega had their greatest vogue.

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there has been archeological finding testifying to the historic accuracy of Jesus's existence.

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I don't hear people disrespectng Judiasm or Hinduism as much.

WileECoyote06 wrote:

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I don't hear people disrespectng Judiasm or Hinduism as much.

Semantics is something else. . . Is thunder disrespecting Christianity or is he commenting/criticizing/dissecting it? I don't think anything he's said so far has been disrespecting or insulting.

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But, with all that said, you know your sh!t . Need more people like you.

ThaGr81 wrote:

WileECoyote06 wrote:

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I don't hear people disrespectng Judiasm or Hinduism as much.

Semantics is something else. . . Is thunder disrespecting Christianity or is he commenting/criticizing/dissecting it? I don't think anything he's said so far has been disrespecting or insulting.

well, to some it might BE disrespectful............ to each his own......... i don't give a damn how he feels...........