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Obama vs Clinton Posted on 04-10-2007

phd1974
Lebanon, PA
Looking at the growing number of candidates for the Democratic nomination, it is clear to me that the race is really between Obama and Clinton. Everyone else is really shoved to the side. It would take a monumental downfall for these two to not be 1-2 in the running. In this case, it would lead voters to vote for the following for President: 1.) Be led by a woman 2.) Be led by a black man 3.) Vote Republican I still do not think America will want the country to be led by a woman. I do not mean to sound male chauvinistic or anything, but that is what I feel. And let's face it, women had the right to vote waaay before they let any black folk do it, man or woman. And then there's the Republican vote. The last 2 Republican Presidents led us to war, with the more recent one, seemingly not knowing what he is doing. So what will the average Joe (*I mean white America*) do when they have to make that choice? I would be very curious to see what the outcome would be, especially the traditional Democratic voting white male. As for the above mentioned person, I am reminded of a clip from Brewsters Millions when he told the People to vote None Of The Above.
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iluv_me from Atlanta, GA replied on 06-07-2007 12:50AM [Reply]

candicej1983 wrote:
Interesting topic. Just to be aware, continue to keep an eye in what both parties are saying. I never watched a republican debate before, but it was interesting to see what the candidates had to say. Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind seeing either of them in the White House even though we are still dealing with the mindsets of old ways of thinking if you understand what I mean. Good topic of discssion.
I liked watching the debates on faith with the democratic party it was something competely knew for that party, and it let you know how much it was going to control the decisions they made if elected.
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aamuboi23zz from birmingham, AL replied on 06-11-2007 11:43AM [Reply]
What we as black people need to realize is Mr. Obama is mixed not this African american hero that we want him to be thats going to elevate us over night though he is an good candidate this is just not his race it is to early for hime to have ran. Mrs. Clinton is the perfect women and candidate to take us to the next level as a country and a people she is the only one on the democratic side that can really change this country for the better. Lets give her the opportunity to do it. TOGETHER OBAMA AND CLINTON WOULD MAKE ANY AND EVERY REPUBLICAN CANDADITE SEEM LIKE A FOOL FOR RUNNING IN THE RACE. I HOPE THEY REALIZE THAT AND JOIN TOGETHER FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.
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Kenshinsanzero replied on 07-17-2007 02:18AM [Reply]
RON PAUL! This is the ONLY candidate that is looking to seriously change our screwed up foreign policy! Look him up, read about him, i'm excited, we haven't had something like this in my lifetime...
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iRep504 replied on 08-30-2007 09:53AM [Reply]
For all of you people who are focused so much on an experienced candidate, you must question what that candidate has done with their experience. Check their track record. So inexperience is not always a negative quality.
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Venom_ER from Tallahassee, FL replied on 09-13-2007 07:22AM [Reply]

I personally don't like neither Obama or Clinton, if I had to choose a Democratic candidate it would be Dennis Kucinich. I think in terms of issues he's the best person running, however because he didn't raise as much money as Hillary, Barack, or John the media isn't consistantly reporting him or asking him questions like they should. I mean if people look at the issues these people stand for and not just how much the media is covering them or how much money they make they might not go for Hillary or Barack. I mean for the most part the only reason people like Hillary is because she's Bill's wife, and the only reason a lot of people are latching onto Barack is simply because he's black. And I'm sorry being black isn't enough to make me want to vote for you. I mean it'd be wonderful to have the first woman or black president, but hell Condelessa Rice is both a woman and black and I wouldn't vote for her in a million damn years. I don't vote Republican nor do I really like the Republicans but as time goes on I'm really starting to like Ron Paul. He seems to be the only person that speaks about very important issues, such as limited government and I think we specifically as black people should support getting the government out our damn faces. I suggest people look up Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich and I'm sure they might like what they see. PS- For all those saying "Yeah I like Dennis, but he can't possibly win." I'd say duh a person can't win if you don't vote for them. Don't throw away your vote on the person the media is covering or even who Oprah is endorsing do your research. Also Barack Obama wants to keep about 100,000 troops still in Iraq. So what makes him any different than George Bush? Hillary Clinton says the same things.
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iRep504 replied on 09-13-2007 09:23AM [Reply]
I beg to disagree. From what I have read Obama wants to have the troops pulled out from Iraq completely within the next year. That's what makes him different.
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Venom_ER from Tallahassee, FL replied on 09-13-2007 09:37AM [Reply]

iRep504 wrote:
I beg to disagree. From what I have read Obama wants to have the troops pulled out from Iraq completely within the next year. That's what makes him different.
Yeah he wants to pulls troops out of Iraq, but he doesn't want to pull ALL troops out of Iraq. He wants to leave some behind, just like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and I believe Chris Dodd. So no what makes him different is his opposition to the war from the start, but that doesn't mean keeping some US forces behind is a good thing.
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iRep504 replied on 09-13-2007 01:21PM [Reply]
Well I guess some sources have to be checked. But I wouldn't expect anything different. That's how the United States operates: they place troops on all ends of the earth to "monitor" things. I'm voting for Obama because of his higher education and public transportation and insurance policy initiatives. Regardless.
Venom_ER wrote:
Yeah he wants to pulls troops out of Iraq, but he doesn't want to pull ALL troops out of Iraq. He wants to leave some behind, just like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and I believe Chris Dodd. So no what makes him different is his opposition to the war from the start, but that doesn't mean keeping some US forces behind is a good thing.
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Venom_ER from Tallahassee, FL replied on 09-23-2007 12:51AM [Reply]

I'm simply waiting for the Tavis Smiley Republican debate that is coming on September 27 on PBS and I'm basically waiting to see what Ron Paul says and how he addresses the black before before I officially switch my classification to Republican just so I can vote for him in the primaries.
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blindianprincess from Oklahoma City, OK replied on 09-24-2007 06:39PM [Reply]
I support Obama for a number of reasons. I love my girl Hillary but i'm supporting Obama for this round. I like the other candidates as well but i've been following Obama ever since he started campaigning for his run in the Senate.
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