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Obama vs Clinton Posted on 04-10-2007

phd1974
Lebanon, PA
Looking at the growing number of candidates for the Democratic nomination, it is clear to me that the race is really between Obama and Clinton. Everyone else is really shoved to the side. It would take a monumental downfall for these two to not be 1-2 in the running. In this case, it would lead voters to vote for the following for President: 1.) Be led by a woman 2.) Be led by a black man 3.) Vote Republican I still do not think America will want the country to be led by a woman. I do not mean to sound male chauvinistic or anything, but that is what I feel. And let's face it, women had the right to vote waaay before they let any black folk do it, man or woman. And then there's the Republican vote. The last 2 Republican Presidents led us to war, with the more recent one, seemingly not knowing what he is doing. So what will the average Joe (*I mean white America*) do when they have to make that choice? I would be very curious to see what the outcome would be, especially the traditional Democratic voting white male. As for the above mentioned person, I am reminded of a clip from Brewsters Millions when he told the People to vote None Of The Above.
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replied on 12-18-2007 10:45PM [Reply]
i*heart*pie wrote:
I don't agree. I think it's quite silly to base someone's "Blackness" on something as simple as skin complexion. Now that I think on it, no one would be "Black" then as far as that goes because NO African-American is "Black". The darkest in that complex is dark brown. And as far as White America, not excluding their politicians, consider Mr. Obama as African-American as they come. And his name...Barack Obama...come on! Oh and being light-skinned has nothing to do with having white ancestry. Most of my family is light-skinned, the darkest in our family is my complexion; light brown--and we are West African, East Indian, and Native South American. No white (no offense to any white users here).
His mother is White. Do you really want our first Black president to be half White? When I said "Black" I wasn't referring to skin color - duh. (I think you know that). I was talking about African Americans ..Black people. (Don't play stupid) He's not Black enough. If him being half Black is enough to be considered Black. In that case... Him being half White, ..is enough to be considered White. He's not Black enough. I swear to God everybody on this site is ignorant. By the way, I didn't repost those comments to see who disagrees ...I posted them to see if anyone agrees. ...So in other words, stop replying to my posts. Thank you.
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replied on 12-18-2007 10:47PM [Reply]
SuperFly, are you white?
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SuperFly replied on 12-19-2007 01:07AM [Reply]
i*heart*pie wrote:
Just curious, what made you consider the Republican Party?
Fundamentals. Things like fiscal responsibility, less government intervention, getting things done on your own, etc.
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caligurl2589 replied on 12-24-2007 01:45PM [Reply]
I care about who becomes the next president (hopefully obama ) but just go out and vote. whoever you vote for.. just vote
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blindianprincess from Oklahoma City, OK replied on 12-25-2007 10:51AM [Reply]
SincerelyKerri wrote:
His mother is White. Do you really want our first Black president to be half White? When I said "Black" I wasn't referring to skin color - duh. (I think you know that). I was talking about African Americans ..Black people. (Don't play stupid) He's not Black enough. If him being half Black is enough to be considered Black. In that case... Him being half White, ..is enough to be considered White. He's not Black enough. I swear to God everybody on this site is ignorant. By the way, I didn't repost those comments to see who disagrees ...I posted them to see if anyone agrees. ...So in other words, stop replying to my posts. Thank you.
I'm sorry, but you're ridiculous. I think you're a hater, plain and simple. Nobody can be "NOT black enough." Its sad that some black people still have that mentality. I dont care if you get mad. I respect others' opinions, but yours is just ridiculous.
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metal from Atlanta, GA replied on 01-25-2008 12:24AM [Reply]
In the words of Carlton Banks, I'm running the same race and jumping the same hurdles as you are. I hate this not black enough crap. It sickens me. The president of the U.S. has a duty to look for the interests of EVERY citizen in the U.S., not just one group.
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Culturally Conscious from Decatur, GA replied on 01-26-2008 09:40AM [Reply]

“WOW!!!”Ain’t this Exciting!!! OK, here it is… Bill Clinton (white men can’t jump or can they) vs Barack Obama (boys in the hood or was he)… This is really exciting stuff… I believe Bill has answered the question whether he can dance? He seems to be doing the “Ali Shuffle” very well with Obama. I guess he is a “Brotha!” Now Obama is not acting like a Brotha when it comes to addressing Bill. But before I get too far into this situation, I want to address a "Cultural Shift" in History happening right before our eyes. Bill Clinton has single handily eradicated the “Willie Lynch” philosophy. Hats off to you Mr. Clinton… So what am I talking about… The news media has been trying to turn this race into an issue of white vs black. Bill Clinton’s attack on Obama (which is “N-Yo-Face” hood stuff…Hummm I wonder why Obama can’t handle that? ) has caused conservative news media outlets to defend a black man (Obama) against a white man. They have totally reversed the “Willie Lynch” syndrome. This has never before happened in our modern day "Cultural Consciousness" where so many white conservatives have sided with the black guy as they are now. This is the buzz of the new media outlets on every channel… Also another nail is being driven into “Willie Lynch’s” coffin with black women (and need I say men too but not as much), who are not listening to the polls or the press or even each other, but deciding on merit who they will give their vote. So it seems that we have finally “overcome” the “Willie Lynch” mentality… It was the “Willie Lynch” mentality that caused us (African Americans) to have the “crabs in a barrel mentality.” But with this daily debate in every venue that you enter, we as a people are making our own minds up. This is “Exciting Stuff!” I had to make that observation because everyone is so bent on this being about race and it is, “the race for the White House!” But back to Bill and Obama. “Good Stuff!!!” Bill is acting more like a brotha than Obama. So please allow me to give Obama some notes from, “Boys N-da-Hood 101.” First of all, I heard a very prominent black radio personality on Lou’s show just the other day check another guess when she tried to play him the way Bill is playing Obama. The host “Man-up’d” and said, “I am not Obama! I don’t suck up to anybody!” “WOW!!!” I said, “Now that’s a Brotha from the Hood!!!” So Here are a few Lessons that can “Help a Brotha out,” if you know what I mean!!! “B.N.D.H. 101 - Lesson 1. Man-up! Don’t let no one tell you who you are. You tell them! B.N.D.H. 101 - Lesson 2. Realize when someone is just selling “wolf-tickets!” Either ignore them or tell them to “Bring it On!” B.N.D.H. 101 - Lesson 3. “Don’t dish it, if you can’t take it.” Yo Bro. there are many more but these are the foundations. If you feel like you are being disrespected politically, then he’s a brotha, disrespect politically until he gets the point. Oh, one more… B.N.D.H. 101 -Lesson 4. Fight-Yo-Own Battles… Don’t let others speak for you, speak for yourself… All fun aside, political debates are not for the weary or weak at heart… I am sure Bill has read, “The Art of War! by Sun Tzu” many times… He is using those “time tested tactics” to get an advantage… Obama is playing “Soft Ball” with a guy that has mastered “The Art of War!” In short, Obama is too nice!!! I said in one of my earlier blogs, in order for Obama to win the nomination he would have to win over “white women and black men.” Well sir, you can’t win them like this… But no-one can say, “This ain’t some exciting stuff!!!” I can’t wait for round three… “WOW!!!” “White Men Can’t Jump!” vs “Boys in the Hood!”
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Jamaican Shawty replied on 01-26-2008 06:15PM [Reply]
All I have to say is my vote is for Obama.....all Mrs. Clinton has as a driving force is the drama of her being a woman in the presidential race, her husband a former president of the U.S acting like its his race, and her constant bickering in debates and in her campaign about her biggest threat which is Barack. I think she should stick to being a Senator for NY and call it a day until she recognizes she needs to rethink her strategy and make her husband realize who is running.
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Culturally Conscious from Decatur, GA replied on 01-27-2008 08:19AM [Reply]

I am curisous to know if your reason for voting for Obama is because he is black? I believe the next president will inherit the most messed-up government since the great depression. Therefore he/she will be blamed for all the failures of his/her predecessor, "Bush." Damned if they do and Damned if they don't. It took a Clinton to clean up the first "Bush" mess! I believe it is going to take another Clinton to clean this mess up as well. Let Hillary be the clean-up woman. At least Obama would not be the first Black President with so much mess to overcome. The Clinton's are good at making and cleaning up mess... Hillary cannot win the Primary election without Obama's support. Therefore Hillary will have to have Obama as VP in order to win. Then Obama will be in great position to be president when things are good. Besides, Obama is really young and lacks the necessary experience to actually pull this country together. It is one thing to be able to talk the talk, but can Obama walk the walk??? That reamins to be seen... But at the end of the day, the citizens of the United State will not be thinking with their heads but with their stomachs...
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Jamaican Shawty replied on 01-27-2008 02:33PM [Reply]
^^^^^ At this point its not about color so I wouldnt vote for him because of his color I actually listened and listened and listened trying to understand what and how Hillary strategies will be carried out how she plans to improve our economy, our health care system, the recession we are facing, the war in Iraq, and things of the sort but everytime I listened and watched her trying to explain she goes around the bush and leads me nowhere. She is an alright senator but what at first drove me to her was her passion so Im not going to say shes not a good CANDIDATE but I dont think I can safely say I can see her as president of the U.S in these days as you pointed out which is full of turmoil. I dont think she can handle it. Edwards lol please....but I believe in Obamas passion and will to turn our country around and I believe he will put his words into action. So again it has nothing to do with color at all for me...if I was to say I would vote for Hillary Clinton some would say Im doing it because I am a woman ...thats not the case.
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