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Did You Know? Posted on 07-23-2004
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Let's state facts about the different sororities and fraternities and find out some unknown or known facts....I'll start ( If I 4got u just add on, enlighten me so next time I will know) ~The lovely word DELTA means change (coughs) ~Phi Beta Sigma are the sponsers of The Million Man March ~AKA was the first sorority in the United States organized by Black women to be incorporated. ~Delta Sigma Theta has the most chapters (NPHC) (300+) ~The late Esther Rolle was a lovely lady of Zeta Phi Beta (dayum dayum dayummmm) I loved me some Florida Evans R.I.P ~Civil Rights leader Rosa Parks is a lovely member of Alpha Kappa Alpha ~Calvin Murphy (NBA Hall of Famer) is an Iota ~Current Miss America Erica Dunlap is a lady of Delta Sigma Theta ~Rick James is a member of Phi Beta Sigma ( i'm Rick James beeeoottch) ~60% of all Black Male Doctors are Alpha Men ~The greatest basketball player of all time Michael Jordan is an Omega ~Ladies all over the world loved Wilt Chamberlin Kappa style...
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WileECoyote06 replied on 07-28-2004 07:03PM [Reply]
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No, almost 10,000 in two years((four semesters)) Really not that much of an increase Undergrad, Grad, etc all included. We are still in the 180s but close to 190K.
Your moratorium began in Fall of 2002, therefore, it has only been TWO semesters. You all re-activated your intake process in Fall of 2003. Timeline: August 2002 - Tragedy in California September 2002 - Moratorium Activated No intake activities in Fall 2002, Winter 2003, Spring 2003, or Summer 2003. August 2003 - Intake is reactivated Spring 2004 - Second Semester of Intake
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Pretty Kitty from landover hills, MD replied on 07-28-2004 07:19PM [Reply]

DreamGirl1908 wrote:
Pretty Kitty wrote:
DreamGirl1908 wrote:
Kappa Delta and Delta Zeta ((two predom. white sororities)) also have pink and green as their official colors.
White Sororities wear any colors
:?
Oh no, i didnt mean it like that, but White sororities wear numerous colors and that cna be just for one organization
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ManifestDSTiny33 replied on 07-28-2004 11:14PM [Reply]
Did ya know that the Epsilon Kappa Chapter of KAPsi was featured in "Sister, Sister"...(I know it was lame, but we are running out of good ones..:?)
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Trauma_Unit14 replied on 07-29-2004 11:28PM [Reply]
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The Deltas acknowledge all 22 founders as being members of AKA prior to starting DST. AKA recognizes that 7 "dissenters" left to start Delta. Now, this is what we know [as published by Soror Parker]: * in January 1908, 9 women -- seniors of the Class of 08 & juniors of the Class of 09 -- founded Alpha Kappa Alpha. * in February 1908, 7 sophomores of the Class of 10, joined the group to become the "Revered 16" * in 1909, there was a line of 6, however, we may assume that they were the Class of 11, since freshmen were not allowed to join and since all upperclass women, except 1 were members of the Sorority. At the time of their initiation, these women must have been sophomores. * we have no information on the lines of 1910 or 1911, but we do know that 7 women were initiated in the SPRING of 1912. Now....Let's move on to DST. In their history book, "In Search of Sisterhood" [hereafter referred to as ISOS], Paula Giddings does NOT indicate when any of their founders were initiated into AKA, but she tells their "class". Based on ISOS, we know that the DST founders were in the following classes: * Class of 12 = 1 * Class of 13 = 15 * Class of 14 = 5 * Class of 15 = 1 NOW, my first thought is "How can a member of the Class of 1912 be a FOUNDER of an undergraduate organization that started in 1913?" And yes, I know about Dr. Just and the 3 undergrads -- Cooper, Coleman, & Love -- who founded Omega, but even they knew that at their beginning it was going to be an org for undergrads and grads. The sororities were specifically told that their groups were for undergraduates only and that they could NOT expand to other campuses. Even if Ms. (dare I say Soror) Shippen was involved, she graduated with Soror Nellie Quander, and according to DST's logic should not have been around in the Fall when the changes were being proposed. Most certainly, she should not have been eligible to be a member of DST in 1913 when she was "so far removed". If Ms. Shippen WAS ELIGIBLE, then DST canNOT say that Soror Nellie had no business getting involved in the split. Ok, my next thought is, "Was there some type of 'baby boom' at Howard in 1909?" because there must have been in order for 15+ women to be in the Class of 1913. Looking at the records we have access to, there were maybe 23 women total [in four classes] AT HOWARD in 1908, and we know that there were not more than 7 in any one class at that time. So now we move on....the 15 DST founders in the Class of 1913 were eligible to join AKA in the spring of 1911 (since freshmen seemed not to be admitted and lines were held in the spring), with the next 5 in the Class of 1914, eligible to join in the spring of 1912. Are there any records to indicate WHEN and/or IF these women joined AKA? We know that Myra Davis [Hemmings] joined b/c she was president in the Fall of 1912, so, she may have been on the 1911 line. Now the question is exactly WHO was on the 1910 line and WHO was on the 1911 line? and WHICH of the DST founders were on the 1912 line of 7 just before the split? Any takers?
I have seen you mention before that some people say that some of AKA founders left AKA to start Delta Sigma Theta. I don't know who says this, but it is definitely false. Delta Sigma Theta was not founded by any of AKA's founders. However, all 22 of my founders were, according to notes and taped interviews left by my founders. Soror Bertha Pitts Campbell acknowledged that all 22 were initiates of AKA. In Search of Sisterhood (Soror Paula Giddings) and Shaped to Its Purpose: The First Fifty Years of Delta Sigma Theta (Soror Mary Elizabeth Vroman) both state that our founders were initially AKAs. I heard, with my own ears, Soror Bertha Pitts Campbell acknowledge that they were initially AKAs. I also heard her explain why. Please tell me the source that says that says that we had the same founders. That is simply not true. I think I saw you mention once that you heard it in a chant. A chant is hardly a reputable source. And you could have also heard it wrong, or the persons ( sorors) could have been saying it wrong. And yes, Soror Eliza Pearl Shippen was a graduate of the Howard 1912 class. However, the decision to reorganize was made in 1912. The actual reoganization took place in 1913, January 1, 1913, to be exact. That is why Soror Shippen is considered a founder. She also marched with the other founders in the Sufferage March and participated in various other activities as a Delta. And no, you dare not say Soror. :wink:
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Trauma_Unit14 replied on 07-29-2004 11:36PM [Reply]
I don't know what the AKA Constitution states, but there is no official bond with Alpha Kappa Alpha mentioned in the Delta Sigma Theta Constitution. There may be a historical bond, based on the founding of my wonderful sisterhood. But trust me when I tell you all that we are not constitutionally bound to any other organizations. Even our bond with the bruhs is historical. Not all Deltas recognize Coleman Love. Some even detest it. I personally love and respect our bruhs. I acknowledge the bond, and so do the other ladies in my chapter. But again, for the record, Delta Sigma Theta does not recognize or have a constitutional bond with Alpha Kappa Alpha. I don't know who started this rumor, but I ask any soror to direct me to the mentioning of such a bond in our Constitution. I have read it backwards and forwards, and have yet to see it mentioned. I even asked about the origins of this while in Vegas, and some older sorors told me that it sounds to them like somebody really wants to be affiliated with Delta in any way they can. It turned into a really cute joke.
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replied on 07-30-2004 12:03AM [Reply]
Trauma_Unit14 wrote:
I don't know what the AKA Constitution states, but there is no official bond with Alpha Kappa Alpha mentioned in the Delta Sigma Theta Constitution. There may be a historical bond, based on the founding of my wonderful sisterhood. But trust me when I tell you all that we are not constitutionally bound to any other organizations. Even our bond with the bruhs is historical. Not all Deltas recognize Coleman Love. Some even detest it. I personally love and respect our bruhs. I acknowledge the bond, and so do the other ladies in my chapter. But again, for the record, Delta Sigma Theta does not recognize or have a constitutional bond with Alpha Kappa Alpha. I don't know who started this rumor, but I ask any soror to direct me to the mentioning of such a bond in our Constitution. I have read it backwards and forwards, and have yet to see it mentioned. I even asked about the origins of this while in Vegas, and some older sorors told me that it sounds to them like somebody really wants to be affiliated with Delta in any way they can. It turned into a really cute joke.
*~deep sigh*~ Here we go again. I swear you need to go back online. I'm not gonna go through this again with you, you are very uninformed. That is all I can say :arrow:
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replied on 07-30-2004 12:05AM [Reply]
"Trauma_Unit14 wrote:
I have seen you mention before that some people say that some of AKA founders left AKA to start Delta Sigma Theta. I don't know who says this, but it is definitely false. Delta Sigma Theta was not founded by any of AKA's founders. However, all 22 of my founders were, according to notes and taped interviews left by my founders. Soror Bertha Pitts Campbell acknowledged that all 22 were initiates of AKA. In Search of Sisterhood (Soror Paula Giddings) and Shaped to Its Purpose: The First Fifty Years of Delta Sigma Theta (Soror Mary Elizabeth Vroman) both state that our founders were initially AKAs. I heard, with my own ears, Soror Bertha Pitts Campbell acknowledge that they were initially AKAs. I also heard her explain why. Please tell me the source that says that says that we had the same founders. That is simply not true. I think I saw you mention once that you heard it in a chant. A chant is hardly a reputable source. And you could have also heard it wrong, or the persons ( sorors) could have been saying it wrong. And yes, Soror Eliza Pearl Shippen was a graduate of the Howard 1912 class. However, the decision to reorganize was made in 1912. The actual reoganization took place in 1913, January 1, 1913, to be exact. That is why Soror Shippen is considered a founder. She also marched with the other founders in the Sufferage March and participated in various other activities as a Delta. And no, you dare not say Soror. :wink:
Reading is fundamental. Go back a few pages and see what I had to say about these things.
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replied on 07-30-2004 01:38AM [Reply]
For the reading impaired:
DreamGirl1908 wrote:
Oo~InFeRnO~oO wrote:
B-Will2K5 wrote:
The 22 founding members of Delta Sigma Theta were orignally fully initiated members of Alpha Kappa Alpha.
Are you sure? cuz I was sure that they weren't...
:arrow: 9 of the 22 founding members of Delta Sigma Theta were fully initiated members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. It has been said that their influence to 'change' came from the men of Omega Psi Phi, I am still researching this for clarity((only because I LOVE history 8) )) :arrow: DST's first project was participation in the Women's Suffragette March of 1913 :arrow: Members of Alpha Kappa Alpha openly defied the Howard University administration and also participated in this march, for those who wanna know where we were when it happened, we were definitely there :wink: :arrow: Alpha Kappa Alpha and Delta Sigma Theta are bound as "sister" organizations. :arrow: Skee-Ooop is a community-service based organization consisting of members of Alpha Kappa Alpha and Delta Sigma Theta. :arrow: There is a huge misconception that the 22 founding members of DST were also the founders of AKA. Our founders had long moved on to AKA graduate chapters before DST was ever even founded. :arrow: Ethel Hedgemen, the driving force behind the founding of AKA, married her childhood sweetheart George Lyle, a charter member of Beta Chapter(Howard U) Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. :arrow: Frogs are in no way associated with AKA :roll: We have no official symbol besides the ivy leaf---no animals. :arrow: Delta Sigma Theta is the largest BGLO with over 200,000 members Be back with more 8)
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Pretty Kitty from landover hills, MD replied on 07-30-2004 08:04AM [Reply]

Trauma_Unit14 wrote:
I don't know what the AKA Constitution states, but there is no official bond with Alpha Kappa Alpha mentioned in the Delta Sigma Theta Constitution. There may be a historical bond, based on the founding of my wonderful sisterhood. But trust me when I tell you all that we are not constitutionally bound to any other organizations. Even our bond with the bruhs is historical. Not all Deltas recognize Coleman Love. Some even detest it. I personally love and respect our bruhs. I acknowledge the bond, and so do the other ladies in my chapter. But again, for the record, Delta Sigma Theta does not recognize or have a constitutional bond with Alpha Kappa Alpha. I don't know who started this rumor, but I ask any soror to direct me to the mentioning of such a bond in our Constitution. I have read it backwards and forwards, and have yet to see it mentioned. I even asked about the origins of this while in Vegas, and some older sorors told me that it sounds to them like somebody really wants to be affiliated with Delta in any way they can. It turned into a really cute joke.
Ha Ha, Trauma, dont hurt em Now I was told that its on your national website as well that you are not bound to anyone.
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Pretty Kitty from landover hills, MD replied on 07-30-2004 08:08AM [Reply]

WileECoyote06 wrote:
Since when did AKA get to 190,000? At one time, Alpha was the biggest fraternity. I don't know now. It's been stated that we have over 160,000 members.
I think you still are the largest. I know for sure Phi Beta Sigma is the Second largest fraternity And Iota Phi Theta has the most financial members out of all the fraternities
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