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Religion: a form of control or REAL? Posted on 01-25-2004
Gateseeker

I'm a son of a preacher man, but i have my questions about religion too. I know God is real but sometimes i get confused. So to you all religious people think about this. Was religion created to control people (remember: in the old testament there were no police men) or is religion REAL?
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Hahaha replied on 01-27-2004 02:00PM [Reply]
*Slim* wrote:
umm, actually it is. The koran is just the old testament.
parts of it is... i'm gonna check it out today so that i can aurgue... brb... :? :arrow:
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Punk'd replied on 01-27-2004 02:12PM [Reply]
go ahead. The only difference between the reliogions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) is Jesus. I think Jews and know Muslims dont view Christ as anymore then a prophet. Also, I was wrong. The Torah, the Jewish "bible", is just the old testament with a few books added and a few books subtracted. I'm getting my books mixed up.
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Hahaha replied on 01-27-2004 02:28PM [Reply]
*Slim* wrote:
go ahead. The only difference between the reliogions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) is Jesus. I think Jews and know Muslims dont view Christ as anymore then a prophet. Also, I was wrong. The Torah, the Jewish "bible", is just the old testament with a few books added and a few books subtracted. I'm getting my books mixed up.
actually, the GOD that the jews and the christains worship, HE descibes HIMSELF alot more differently than the god of the muslims...i'm going to read it and point out specific examples of why its worng for believers to say that the muslims and christians/jews worship the same GOD. i could see how an anthiest would have this belief, or one who is ignorant of the..ahem...god of the qoran, but you ain't gonna get me to bow down to allah nan time soon. i would bow down to the GOD of the jews because that's my GOD too...they just don't worship my JESUS. but the muslims are on some different ish. you just hae to investigate the qoran to find out. oh yeah, the torah. no disagreement there...
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In Rod We Trust replied on 01-27-2004 06:15PM [Reply]
sure they are different gods... right. All I can tell you is check the hostories of the religions. 8) :arrow:
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mochabonnie replied on 02-10-2004 01:55AM [Reply]
From the Encarta encyclopedia: The Arabic name for God, Allah, refers to the same God worshiped by Jews and Christians. Allah is just an Arabic word; it's not a name. It means "the God". We studied in history the relation between Judaism, Muslims believe in progressive revelation. So to them, Jesus was an important prophet. True Islam also commands its followers to respect "the people of the Book", Christians. They also regarded the Bible as a holy book, although the Qu'ran was holier, unchanged. Also, as for **** -- most Muslims do not believe in the militant expressions of ****, which is a holy war. The holy war means to most the war against their sinful flesh -- same as most Christians. "Within the faith of Islam, this effort can be individual or collective, and it can apply to leading a virtuous life; helping other Muslims through charity, education, or other means; preaching Islam; and fighting to defend Muslims." As for religion, I tend to think of it not so much created for control, but something people derived to give them hope and purpose. People later used it as a springboard for division, control, and power. But as of right now, I don't really believe it's true...just an inspiring institution of man.
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Mr.228 replied on 03-04-2004 08:11PM [Reply]
like Karl Marx said "religion is the **** of the massess" and no i aint a communist
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Hahaha replied on 03-09-2004 08:19PM [Reply]
cinnamocha wrote:
From the Encarta encyclopedia: The Arabic name for God, Allah, refers to the same God worshiped by Jews and Christians. Allah is just an Arabic word; it's not a name. It means "the God". We studied in history the relation between Judaism, Muslims believe in progressive revelation. So to them, Jesus was an important prophet. True Islam also commands its followers to respect "the people of the Book", Christians. They also regarded the Bible as a holy book, although the Qu'ran was holier, unchanged. Also, as for **** -- most Muslims do not believe in the militant expressions of ****, which is a holy war. The holy war means to most the war against their sinful flesh -- same as most Christians. "Within the faith of Islam, this effort can be individual or collective, and it can apply to leading a virtuous life; helping other Muslims through charity, education, or other means; preaching Islam; and fighting to defend Muslims." As for religion, I tend to think of it not so much created for control, but something people derived to give them hope and purpose. People later used it as a springboard for division, control, and power. But as of right now, I don't really believe it's true...just an inspiring institution of man.
sure...but i ain't bowing down to no allah...i never did get those links, did i? :wink:
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Mr.228 replied on 03-10-2004 08:36PM [Reply]
in the words of Karl Marx "religion is the **** [narcotic] of the massess" and hell no i aint no communist.. but i do agree with him
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In Rod We Trust replied on 03-11-2004 09:56PM [Reply]
Cupid Valentino wrote:
After much thought, I've come to the conclusion that however real religion may have been when it began, its current incarnation is a form of control. Kings used religion to justify their claim to their thrones. **** owners used religion to justify the use of slaves. Remember though it may be the Word of God, it is still written by the Hand of Man. I think its stupid that some people buy into the words within the bible so quickly without analyzing the past behind the book. There's still knowledge in it, but you have to take that with a grain of salt and realize that there is also some "artificial additives."
All very valid points :!: I agree 200%!!!!!!!! And just out of curiousity, what's your religion, [if you don't mind me asking] :?: PEACE
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RevolutionarySistah from Los Angeles, CA replied on 04-30-2004 11:30AM [Reply]

this is a good topic, so I'm bringin' it back up.....hope ya'll don't mind I believe that religion is a **** of spirituality, which is something that is meant to give one freedom, rather than limitations. Throughout history however, man has created religion sometimes as a means of control. I am a christian, but I feel like if I didn't go to church everyday I'd still be one, because that's what I feel in my heart. Some people go to church just to go, not really getting anything out of it. Due to the foulness that goes on in some churches, many people stay as far a way from them as possible. Even as a christian, it still upsets me that there are like five churches on every corner. I think there are a lot more things we need in the community rather than a bunch of churches. And it kills me when I see Preachers blinging and a majority of their members are under the poverty level. That there ain't right. Now, there are plenty of righteous men of God out there who do try to help out and are not in the church "business." However, these men don't get recognition. TV Church gets me even more upset.....it just all seems so fake. That guy from TBN went to jail for fraud and people still give him money (my grandma being one of them) I think people (not tryna generalize but mostly black people) use religion as an means to cope with living at the bottom, rather than using spirituality as an inspiration to make it to the top. Aiight, so I guess i said what I had to say.
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