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I'm not a N*gga!! Posted on 05-05-2004
HU_Intellect

Due to recent post and extreme use of the word I thought that I would make this post. I wrote a novel called "I'm not a n*gga", that explained the history of the word and how it has evolved and the power that it has had on our people. Well the overall purpose of that novel (really short story) was to tell why we shouldn't refer to each other as n*ggas and how it is hypocritical to get mad at another race for using it when you use it everyday. Everybody who knows me knows that I can't stand the word (just ask Wizdom and FAMU_first) I try to protest when ever I hear somebody using it but I find that I am often alone in my thinking and to many people it has just become another word, and it is often too energy consuming. I think there was a post like this before but, HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THE WORD N*GGA!
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HU_Intellect replied on 05-05-2004 11:58PM [Reply]
chicagosocialite wrote:
HU_ComeBacKid wrote:
BrandedBison08 wrote:
In all truth, I believe that the word itself has lost some of its true meaning.
You gotta elaborate on this one my Bison Brotha. You see you said one of the key terms when looking into the importance of the word true meaning. The true meaning of the word remains and no matter how we try to flip it, it wiil be the same. The slang meaning has changed, however when we use the word we must realize what we are acutally saying, like someone said earlier we are the only people who do this to each other you don't see other races or groups saying "hay ****" and "hay my ****". On the other hand I do not blame us for our ignorance. It was a systematic process that started with slavery and we are still trying to free our minds from those shackles. But it's all good, with a little education, which we are all getting, we will be back on top in no time.
I was with you until you said you ďdonít blame us for our ignoranceĒ. I do! To use the word ignorance implies that black people are uninformed, uneducated or unaware. Perhaps this is the case with some people, but I believe the ďscholarsĒ on this site are fully cognizant of their actions. They know the original definition of the word as well as the social definition, yet they continue to include it in their vocabulary. They have supplied us with an ample amount of historical texture regarding this word. So ignorance is not the case here. Someone once said that ignorance was going to be the death of the community. I disagree. Ignorance is not going to be the death our community, complacency is. We have become complacent with our current state of being. It almost seems as if we embrace stupidity as oppose to rejecting it. Relatively speaking, we know our place in society as well as our flaws. The question is what are we going to do about it? Yes the word did stem from slavery, but that excuse is null and void. We are in a position where we have the power to make a difference, lets take advantage of it black people.
I understand where you are coming from and yes I have often said that complacence is one of our biggest downfalls. It like the old negro spiritual goes, "Been bent down so long that down don't hurt no mo." I agree 100 percent up to that point, however what I am saying is that things do not happen all of a sudden and in order to correct the horrendous state that we are in as a people (more specifically the ignorant use of the n word) we must attack the problem and follow steps to correct it. Step one erase the ignorance, become informed and educate yourself. It is only right to place the blame on our people if they truly understand the meaning of the word (which unfortunatly many on this site do). Step two realize that you have a problem and begin to try to correct it. All my people who said they realize that it is bad but continue to say it, you are almost purposly degrading our people. Believe me I know it is hard to stop (it was for me) but once you realize the true meaning you are obligated to stop using it. Step three take notice to everytime you use the word. Believe me it works, once I learned the true meaning in 8th grade it took me about 3 months to stop just become conscious when you use it.
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replied on 05-06-2004 12:04AM [Reply]
^^^ good point, i mean to take that even further, why do blacks that dont like the N word listen to hip hop. that music does more to hurt the black race than a silly little word that presently isn't nearly as effective as it was even 30 years ago! i always find a way to bring hip hop into a discussion, im trying to start the hip hop reformation, i guess... if you dont like the N word, then you shouldnt like, Jay Z, 50 Cent, Lil Flip, P. Diddy, Biggy, 2 Pac, Ja Rule, Nas, Petey Pablo, Lil John, and a host of other hip hop pseudo[false]artists!!!! defense?
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HU_Intellect replied on 05-06-2004 12:09AM [Reply]
bohemian wrote:
we have some smart future bison, i wonder who will be the smartest, or is such a thing even possible?
Yea fam I realized the same thing we have some extremely intelligent brothas entering into "The Mecca" I'm just honored to be in their presence. Tell the truth, this is exactly why I am at HU instead of Stanford or UCLA. It is extremely empowering to be around people who look like me, think like me and are going the same place in life with me. Man I love HBCU's. I love black people period. **Gives group hug and gives the Queens a kiss on the cheek**
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d.blaze replied on 05-06-2004 12:14AM [Reply]
bohemian wrote:
^^^ good point, i mean to take that even further, why do blacks that dont like the N word listen to hip hop. that music does more to hurt the black race than a silly little word that presently isn't nearly as effective as it was even 30 years ago! i always find a way to bring hip hop into a discussion, im trying to start the hip hop reformation, i guess... if you dont like the N word, then you shouldnt like, Jay Z, 50 Cent, Lil Flip, P. Diddy, Biggy, 2 Pac, Ja Rule, Nas, Petey Pablo, Lil John, and a host of other hip hop pseudo[false]artists!!!! denfense?
or Mos Def Talib and Kanye (lol...yea they say ni99a like crazy )
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replied on 05-06-2004 12:16AM [Reply]
A NEW REVELATION... The N word is connected to the entire black experience! If we are going to stop using the word, then we would have to avoid contradiction and stop listening to contemporary hip hop, but the "stopping" goes onsee steps below 1) STOP USAGE OF "N" WORD 2) Stop listening to music that sponsors the "N" word, i.e. hip hop. 3) Stop buying the clothes that support rappers in order to force a change in their lyrical content. 4) Alter the entire young-black-stereotypical-mannerism complex, in other words, blacks shouldn't even ACT in a manner that reflects the music that we are supposedly non supportive of, seeing as how it uses a word that we are so against! 5) Neo-nubianism/ cultural rebirth arises in order to respond to the fall of contemporary hip hop and the style of living of young african americans. LOL...i don't think black folks are ready to stop using the "N" word just yet comment?
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HU_Intellect replied on 05-06-2004 12:28AM [Reply]
bohemian wrote:
^^^ good point, i mean to take that even further, why do blacks that dont like the N word listen to hip hop. that music does more to hurt the black race than a silly little word that presently isn't nearly as effective as it was even 30 years ago! i always find a way to bring hip hop into a discussion, im trying to start the hip hop reformation, i guess... if you dont like the N word, then you shouldnt like, Jay Z, 50 Cent, Lil Flip, P. Diddy, Biggy, 2 Pac, Ja Rule, Nas, Petey Pablo, Lil John, and a host of other hip hop pseudo[false]artists!!!! denfense?
I feel you on that, I think that hip hop has done a lot to harm to black community but I predict that it will be the vehicle that promotes change in the black community the same way. We don't have any leaders like we had 30 years ago and unfortunately our leaders today are all entertainers but the good thing is that once we actually get some leaders in the entertainment business the message will spread like wild fire. For example when entertainers come out with a new word, new clothing style, new hair style, everybody in the hood has caught hold of it within a few days. They have power and now they are unfortunately **** it. I am more of a slow jamz, oldies, neo-soul brotha myself but I must admit at times I do find myself listening to music with the n word in it. I approach it the same way I approach my brothas and sistas who say it around me everyday. I wish they wouldn't say it but I think I gain more sometimes by overlooking the word that the music as a whole. Take Tupac for instance, one of the most prolific rappers of all time. Said some of the most intelligent things I have heard come out of such a young soul, I really wish he wouldn't have used the n word but if I didn't listen to his music because of it I would have never got his message. Its sad but that's unfortunately the way it works.
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d.blaze replied on 05-06-2004 12:29AM [Reply]
^^i've been sayin this i like the word ni99a
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HU_Intellect replied on 05-06-2004 12:40AM [Reply]
bohemian wrote:
A NEW REVELATION... The N word is connected to the entire black experience! If we are going to stop using the word, then we would have to avoid contradiction and stop listening to contemporary hip hop, but the "stopping" goes onsee steps below 1) STOP USAGE OF "N" WORD 2) Stop listening to music that sponsors the "N" word, i.e. hip hop. 3) Stop buying the clothes that support rappers in order to force a change in their lyrical content. 4) Alter the entire young-black-stereotypical-mannerism complex, in other words, blacks shouldn't even ACT in a manner that reflects the music that we are supposedly non supportive of, seeing as how it uses a word that we are so against! 5) Neo-nubianism/ cultural rebirth arises in order to respond to the fall of contemporary hip hop and the style of living of young african americans. LOL...i don't think black folks are ready to stop using the "N" word just yet comment?
My New revelation Black people have become so complacent with our ignorance that we think that alleviating this ignorance will cause the great domino affect and end all humanity 1) Step 1 don't stop using the n word 2) Every race in the world realizes how much of a fool we are making of ourselves and decides to join in on the fun now the n word is just another word but is used by everyone. 3) N*gga becomes a race and is now a bubble that can be filled in on test showing the world just how ignorant we are 4) The next president finds research to show that N*ggas just aren't as smart as everyone else, they score lower on test and don't have very high IQ's. He then declares them an inferior race ARE U READY FOR COMMITMENT!!!!?!!?!!!
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Mr. Chicagosocialite replied on 05-06-2004 12:51AM [Reply]
HU_ComeBacKid wrote:
bohemian wrote:
we have some smart future bison, i wonder who will be the smartest, or is such a thing even possible?
Yea fam I realized the same thing we have some extremely intelligent brothas entering into "The Mecca" I'm just honored to be in their presence. Tell the truth, this is exactly why I am at HU instead of Stanford or UCLA. It is extremely empowering to be around people who look like me, think like me and are going the same place in life with me. Man I love HBCU's. I love black people period. **Gives group hug and gives the Queens a kiss on the cheek**
I agree its refreshing to share conversation with other intelligent black scholars, specifically black men. Itís less than common to find black men who engage in healthy and productive dialogue. Black men we have a void to fill in the academic arena. Itís an honor to be a black man. Ellis Cose refers to us as the envy of the world and I fully support his statement. Like brandedbison, Iím not concerned with who has the highest GPA or standardized test scores. Iím more concerned with who has the greatest impact on the black community. The educational system could have labeled you inferior, but if you conduct yourself in an articulate manner that reflects virtue and conviction, Iím impressed. In the words of Emerson, wisdom is not finally tested in schools. We are all in this together black men. None of us is as smart as all of us! P.S. We love you too black women, and need you in our lives. Every great man has a great woman behind him!
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RevolutionarySistah from Los Angeles, CA replied on 05-06-2004 12:58AM [Reply]

bohemian wrote:
The "N" word is just a word, but the different contexts that black folks use it in, derogatory or not, are still a blow to the black psyche! we've attempted to alienate the word into a term of endearment, but it is still rooted in america's racist nomenclature. i think appropriate names would be brother and sister. the n-word is simply a word that was borrowed from whites in an act of grammatical rebellion, however, it still holds the latent connotation of "second-class person". point being...im officially against the word if i am talking to someone that i admire, but like my sister Ali said, it is more than fitting for a person that fits the definition (e.g., gangsters, "thugs", ****-beat dads, etc.).
yea, thas right, us LA Folk run thangs! Ok, so to what Branded said. I use it as a deragatory term because THAT'S WHAT IT IS!! 'Course the white man made u think its cool for you to call your brother a **** and be cool, but don't sleep. White people still sittin' up in their skyscraper buildings pointin' down laughin' at the ****. I am offended at the word and it hurts me that so many people are not. I mean, do chinese people go around callin' each other chinks?? Do white people go around sayin' "What up my kracka"?? Do mexicans go around callin' each other chunts like its the thing to do??? NO! Ni99as got to be the only people dumb enough (excuse my harshness) to go around and call themselves something that was originally meant tob put them down. I mean if u think about it, you know white people be sittin' up laughing about the ish. Like they sayin' "Are these ni99as that dumb?" Then ni99as have the nerve to get mad when somebody else calls them that. lol lol It kills me! Its like ni99as are a walkin' contridiction. Its like if you buy into it, then don't get mad if somebody call u that. Its like me gettin' mad if somebody who wasn't a girl called me a girl. I identify with being a girl, regardless of who calls me that. But please don't get it twisted, i love black people, i am down to ride for my brothers and sisters. But ni99as...... :roll: .....i on't know. they bother me a bit. And yes people, there is a difference between black folk and ni99as (Chris Rock explains perfectly) aiight so my response is a little candid, and maybe a lil' offensive. offensive to the ni99as that read it, that is......
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