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Intellectual Free Post Posted on 05-07-2004

RevolutionarySistah
Los Angeles, CA
....aiight, so I see people starting free posts all the time, I figure I can do it too. Only twist is, if you gon' post something......let it be intellectual (i.e nothing about a party, grad nite, or shout-outs) something tells me this post is gon' die quickly....... :roll: oh well, i gave it a shot!
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replied on 05-25-2004 12:10PM [Reply]
Los Angeles is Mexico! i think we are only like 12% black. I dont know what its like for the rest of the country. Higher education should be free, like some of those European countries, but that would take a little bit more socialism, but we all know American nationalism and capitalism ain't tryin to have that!
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hot_coco from Queens, NY replied on 05-26-2004 01:39AM [Reply]

Sl´mę1985 wrote:
hot_coco wrote:
I think that the SATs discriminate against racial minorities as well as the lower-income students (all races included). Although I think we should make more of an effort to find the available resources, a lot of times I notice the difference in the availability of the resources. I attended a "minority" high school, while my sister went to a majority white high school. There was a big differene on the resources given to both schools (as is the case with a lot of schools in my area). My sister's school made SAT preperation mandatory for all students. They had a class during a full semester (at least 3 times a week for about 4 months). The only thing my school did was have an SAT prep course for one month on Saturdays (a total of 4 meets :? )....and I only remember them doing this for 2 years while I was there. Plus, the SAT prep classes cost a grip. Some parents just can't afford to pay for them.
SAT prep courses are not necessary to score high on the SAT. I scored a 1210 without any extra preparation other then what I already knew. Personally I think the problem with minority students and the SAT, along with other standardized tests, lies with the education and the amount of educational attention they get from their parents in the early developemental stage. White families generally take a waaaaaay more active role in their childrens education then those of black families and it shows. Sure you can argue that they should be recieving this knowledge from the school, but where does your true education begin....
It might not be necessary, but it sure helps. I agree that minority parents take less than an active roll in their child's education. However, some of that has to do with the fact that many minority parents work longer hour (for less pay), and let the school teachers babysit their child. Then again, some minority parents don't even have the necessary education to pass on to their child. The knowledge has to come from somewhere, whether it be the parents or the schools. I think the problem is that the parents are leaving it up to the schools and vise versa. But, I think it also depends on the social and economic status of the family. While there is always an exception to the rule, lower income parents (which usually indicates lower education) will most likely raise children that will fall into the same category. It's the cycle of capitalism....the richer stay rich by keeping the poor poor. As for the Mexicans taking over: It seems relatively easier for them to come (and stay) into this country illegally. Then, many companies hire them because they will work harder than many Americans for much less pay.
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NeoSoulBrotha from Rosedale, MD replied on 05-27-2004 04:06PM [Reply]

You know I couldn't resist this one... I don't believe that the SAT exam itself is biased, although the circumstances behind it are. It is known that schools in areas that are mainly low-income are generally lower quality than in wealthy areas. The reason for this is the fact that urban schools are located in areas with higher population and lower median income. As a result, they must serve more students with higher needs, with less available tax revenue. In these areas, Black and Latino students are usually the majority. A recent study showed that standardized test performance of Black students in private schools and wealthier public school districts was equivalent to that of their White counterparts. So the problem mainly lies in poor-quality schools. The dilemma is that, as stated by others, urban schools are asked to do more with less, which is difficult if not impossible. I think that economic class is becoming the new defining factor in American society. Those with wealth, or even moderate wealth, are best equipped to maintain and grow their assets, while those without are the least equipped to improve their situation. It is not impossible, though. It is for this reason that we must be more discriminating in our spending and investing. Holla!
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Afro-American replied on 05-27-2004 06:05PM [Reply]
RevolutionarySistah wrote:
first and foremost, I have to address THEONE......i mean what u had to say was tight, but did you have to say it like 4 times?? I don't think so. And to HU_Queen, I say this an intellectual is one who is Endowed with intellect; having the power of understanding; having capacity for the higher forms of knowledge or thought; characterized by intelligence or mental capacity; as, an intellectual person. Now of course being intellectual doesn't mean book smarts, or even knowing your history, it is all about wisdom. Getting the point where you can think beyond what they want you to think. As for your grandmother, I can feel you because my grandmother is the same way. I learned my bad english from her, but I also learned how to remain faithful in times when everything is going arye. ( i thin that's how you spell it) This post is not a post to talk about shoulda, coulda, wouldas, but it is a free post, and people are just speaking their minds. And if we wanna talk neo-soul and going back to Africa, I don't see why that's a problem. And to what you said about "sipping lemonade and dreaming about the future" I find that is one of the most important problems us black folk have. WE NEED TO WAKE THE F*UCK UP!!!! Don't get mad at me, I'm just speakin' my mind. I ain't tyrna provoke you or anything like that. We all intelligent people here.....no need to get ig'nant.
I think people misunderstood my "sipping lemonade thing" im saying that even though blacks now are wanting to make changes in the community etc.. they are straying from the ways we made changes back in the 60s...black people actually dreamed and hoped for better things, and wanted TO IMPROVE what was already there, instead of always focusing on the negative and complaining...it seems that even the ones who want to make changes all they do is focus on " blacks are awful", "blacks are ****"..etc etc etc...I mean i GO TO howard and of course we ALWAYS have these black forums but after awhile it gets sickening at seeing all the "self-hatred" being spewed out...you said blacks need to wake up, but to always hear hatred about your own race from every direction and saying "black kids are lazy, ghetto, stupid, cant speak english", it almost makes ya wanna go back to sleep and ignore all the hypocrisy and stupidity being emitted....but the greatest things in black history did not come from the slaves or the civil rights marchers degrading each other...it came from love AND ENCOURAGEMENT! AND ACTION...and thats all im saying we need more of that in the black communitY...
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RevolutionarySistah from Los Angeles, CA replied on 05-27-2004 07:45PM [Reply]

I love my people more than anything, but I am not going to pretend that WE (including myself) don't have certain problems. I am sorry if you misunderstood what I was saying before as "black bashing." I'm not Bill Cosby........
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Afro-American replied on 05-27-2004 08:16PM [Reply]
RevolutionarySistah wrote:
I love my people more than anything, but I am not going to pretend that WE (including myself) don't have certain problems. I am sorry if you misunderstood what I was saying before as "black bashing." I'm not Bill Cosby........
im not saying you should pretend we dont have problems, but too truly improve those problems, you dont heal it with hate....just as i said before, in the 60s we made much more advancements when we encouraged each other and didnt focus ALL THE TIME on the negative within our race, but outside as well...and we always talk about bad education, black neighborhoods this and that, but those decisions that affect us are mainly made by bureaucratic white people...and we are doing exactly what those politicians are wanting us to do, fight amongst ourselves and bring our people down OURSELVES so nothing is getting done...lol and please dont think I was accusing you of black bashing, i know completely where ya coming from
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RevolutionarySistah from Los Angeles, CA replied on 05-27-2004 08:22PM [Reply]

HU-Queen wrote:
RevolutionarySistah wrote:
I love my people more than anything, but I am not going to pretend that WE (including myself) don't have certain problems. I am sorry if you misunderstood what I was saying before as "black bashing." I'm not Bill Cosby........
im not saying you should pretend we dont have problems, but too truly improve those problems, you dont heal it with hate....just as i said before, in the 60s we made much more advancements when we encouraged each other and didnt focus ALL THE TIME on the negative within our race, but outside as well...and we always talk about bad education, black neighborhoods this and that, but those decisions that affect us are mainly made by bureaucratic white people...and we are doing exactly what those politicians are wanting us to do, fight amongst ourselves and bring our people down OURSELVES so nothing is getting done...lol and please dont think I was accusing you of black bashing, i know completely where ya coming from
aiight, so we cool? ::pours her a glass of lemonade:: Good. Us HU sistah's gotta stick together . And I agree about what you said about the 60s, black folk knew how to love each other back then. I don't know what these ni99a's is doin' nowadays. I am not saying all, but it seems like not many people care about the race anymore, they just lookin' out for themselves and that's it.
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RevolutionarySistah from Los Angeles, CA replied on 05-27-2004 08:24PM [Reply]

YAY! FIVE PAGES!! PEOPLE DO RESPOND WELL TO SMART TOPICS!!!!
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Afro-American replied on 05-27-2004 08:48PM [Reply]
RevolutionarySistah wrote:
YAY! FIVE PAGES!! PEOPLE DO RESPOND WELL TO SMART TOPICS!!!!
RevolutionarySistah wrote:
YAY! FIVE PAGES!! PEOPLE DO RESPOND WELL TO SMART TOPICS!!!!
ha who wouldve thought, girll we definently cool, trust im a pro at these things since being at Howard lol, and when you get here youll be even more enlightened with all the dang forums they always got...even on insignificant things like "save the alley cats!" :lol:
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NeoSoulBrotha from Rosedale, MD replied on 05-27-2004 09:11PM [Reply]

RevolutionarySistah wrote:
YAY! FIVE PAGES!! PEOPLE DO RESPOND WELL TO SMART TOPICS!!!!
Make food available, and a hungry man will eventually find his way to you. Make knowledge available... those who desire it will also eventually find their way to it. Holla!
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