I know alot of people believe in the biblical character Jesus, but how about this. I was reading a book the other day and the author began to talk about the origins of Judaism and Christianity. Here is a summary of what he said.
The story of Jesus is a mythical story based on esoteric symbolism of the Sun God. Hence Jesus is the "Son of God". The crown of thorns that he wore on the cross is symbolic of the rays of Sun, and is also seen on the Statue of Liberty (which is another symbolic figure). The cross itself comes from the Egyptian Ankh, which represents life and light, the Sun.
The trinity Jesus-God-Holy Spirit parallels many other mythical stories such as Horus-Osiris-**** (Egypt). Similarities between Horus and Jesus?
Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. Horus was the truth and the life.
Both the Good Shephard
Both were the lamb
Both are identified with a cross
Both were baptised at 30
Jesus was child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, ****.
The birth of both are marked by a star
Both were the child teacher in the temple
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst
Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set (Egyptian god of darkness, hence sun-Set)
Jesus was said to be judge of the ****. This was also said about ****, Krishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-Kiun Bacchus, Zeus and others.
Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick, raising the ****. So did Krishna(Hindu), Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others.
Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others.
Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun, Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl (Mexican not mayan though) and far more.
Jesus will be born again. So will Krishna, Vishnu, Buddha, Quetzalcoatl and others.
The story of Jesus was created/recycled and used as a tool to enslave people's minds through a dictatorial religion, Christianity. This religion is not unique in any way.
The twelve disciples are symbolism for the twelves solar bodies (yes there are twelve) and twelve astrological signs. 12 is all over the place.
During Easter, the summer solstice, the sun begins to stay out shorter and shorter until its shortest length of time in December. Jesus was born on December 25th. It takes the Sun three days to recover from the winter solstice from December 21st/22nd to December 25th. He dies in March on Easer. Hence Jesus died and rose on the third day. The same length of time it took the Babylon Son of God, Tammuz to rise again.
Also March is during the astrological sign of Aries, the Ram or... the lamb.
Jesus is associated with the fish because that is when he was supposed to have been born. During the entering of the astrological house of Pisces not the sign. Astrological houses last somewhere around 2000+ years. We are now entering the house of Aquarious.
The Christian religious day is... SUNday.
The author then speaks about who the true authors of the New Testament are. Let me assure you they are not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul or any of these Biblical characters.
As a matter of fact there is no documentation of anybody by these names ever to have been in these places at this time outside of the Bible. There is nobody named Pontius Pilate except in the Bible.
There is no written history of anybody named Moses, King David, King Solomon or most of the Biblical characters you read about except in the Bible. These are characters aer more symbolism that I could get into.
I have no problem with anybody's religious beliefs I just think it's necessary to do the research before you make that comittment.
So did Jesus really live? Or is he a biblical character that has been created and so hyped up that the whole world accepts him as LORD without looking at background information. Jesus was a duplicate, myth, and he has been used to control the populations to this day. Have you ever thought about where these religions came from? and why is Bush claiming to be a Christian? And why have so many wars been started in the past because of religion? And why was there centuries of Dark Ages when knowledge was suppressed because of religion? And why were so many people slaughtered at the inquisition because of RELIGION? It's because religion is a tool, a quite effective one at that.
Alright yall, I have read most of these posts on here and I want to say that you can do all the research you want to on whether or not God or Jesus is real but I want to tell you how I know He's real. I think Reality said that all he/she wants to know is why do you believe what you believe. Well, I want to tell you why.
I wasn't raised in church but I started going when I was in my teens. In a short period of time, I realized I needed a Savior. I did what Romans 10:9-12 said and recognized I was a sinner, repented of my sins, realized Jesus died for my sins, and accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior all through a prayer.
Ok, now the significant part of this was that once I did this I felt a transformation I have never felt before. It was like I was being cleansed on the inside and a heavy burdon was being lifted off of me. From then on, when I did or tried to do something that was against God I felt a type of convicted feeling that felt like a burning inside of me. Also now when I read the Bible or when I pray I feel a feeling that is so powerful that I want to cry. This is all through the Holy Spirit that the Bible speaks about in John 14.
Also I have witnessed people give powerful testimonies of how their lives were drastically changed by just letting God into their lives. I've seen former drug addicts, alcoholics, and people who led evil lives tesitified of how they came out of all that through the blood of Jesus Christ. Also I've seen people tesify that they were physically healed just by having faith in Jesus. Now if God weren't real, how is all of this possible?
Reality, a lot of what you said in this forum is based on one book. How do you know that book is even accurate. There is so much evidence that there is a God and that he is real. Why don't you read a Christian book by a Christian author that talks about whether or not God or Jesus is real and compare the two perspectives and the evidence that they give. A good author I will give you is Hank Hanegraffe. He is a good Christian Apologetic and if you want to you can go on his website www.equip.org.
^^^I feel everything you just said. My question is how do you know that it is Jesus that did the cleansing? My point is that I think YOU did the cleansing in your own life, not Jesus.
That was my entire point from the begining actually.
You've seen people have drastic changes in their lives by God. My point on that is just by the intention to have changes in your life you will attract that reality to your life. By letting go of control and letting natural forces (God) handle things.
Like I said in one of my earlier posts, my information and ideas are not coming from 1 book. Rather 50+ books. I have many, many books on these subjects. Only the first post came from the book I described. So once again, the information is not from just 1 book.
I am definitely not saying that God isn't real. I'm simply trying to propose a new definition of who God is. Us.
^^^I feel everything you just said. My question is how do you know that it is Jesus that did the cleansing? My point is that I think YOU did the cleansing in your own life, not Jesus.
That was my entire point from the begining actually.
You've seen people have drastic changes in their lives by God. My point on that is just by the intention to have changes in your life you will attract that reality to your life. By letting go of control and letting natural forces (God) handle things.
Like I said in one of my earlier posts, my information and ideas are not coming from 1 book. Rather 50+ books. I have many, many books on these subjects. Only the first post came from the book I described. So once again, the information is not from just 1 book.
I am definitely not saying that God isn't real. I'm simply trying to propose a new definition of who God is. Us.
I'm not limiting myself to Buddhism, but I do agree with the doctrine and "The Four Noble Truths", which the Buddha taught.
So I guess you could say yeah I'm Buddhist, but I'm also Hindu/Vedic, I'm also a Taoist/Daoist, and if you give me a good definition I'll even go with Christian*. I can't say Islamic yet because I haven't read the QuRan.
But I believe that I am so much more, and find it impossible to define myself by a religion.
*Christian as in "lives as Jesus lived (or as the story of Jesus says he lived)"
^^ Youre Buddist?!?!?!!? :roll:
From most of your post I would have thought that you were athiest.And you cant be all of them??? I honestly think you dont know what you want.
^^ Youre Buddist?!?!?!!? :roll:
From most of your post I would have thought that you were athiest.And you cant be all of them??? I honestly think you dont know what you want.
Well either I'm all of them or I'm none of them. I'd rather go with the none. Because people tend to categorize you once you say you are something.
When I say I'm Buddhist I'm just saying yeah I agree with their ideas. That's why I said I'm Hindu too. And then at the end Christian, which is really what I thought you would get on me about.
I don't want anything really. I just like living and progressing to reach new heights and higher levels of understanding.
^^ Youre Buddist?!?!?!!? :roll:
From most of your post I would have thought that you were athiest.And you cant be all of them??? I honestly think you dont know what you want.
Well either I'm all of them or I'm none of them. I'd rather go with the none. Because people tend to categorize you once you say you are something.
When I say I'm Buddhist I'm just saying yeah I agree with their ideas. That's why I said I'm Hindu too. And then at the end Christian, which is really what I thought you would get on me about.
I don't want anything really. I just like living and progressing to reach new heights and higher levels of understanding.
If you truely care about something it does matter what people categorize you as.
^^^I don't want to be categorized though. I just want the ideas to flow.
I've read some of Buddha's philosophies as well..I hate when people have to put a label on everything as if we all were in different gangs...Being a buddhist is just living your life in a certian way..
After I read, "The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching" by Thich Nhat Hanh..I practiced the "Four noble Truths" and for the first time in my life I felt free and liberated..