I know alot of people believe in the biblical character Jesus, but how about this. I was reading a book the other day and the author began to talk about the origins of Judaism and Christianity. Here is a summary of what he said.
The story of Jesus is a mythical story based on esoteric symbolism of the Sun God. Hence Jesus is the "Son of God". The crown of thorns that he wore on the cross is symbolic of the rays of Sun, and is also seen on the Statue of Liberty (which is another symbolic figure). The cross itself comes from the Egyptian Ankh, which represents life and light, the Sun.
The trinity Jesus-God-Holy Spirit parallels many other mythical stories such as Horus-Osiris-**** (Egypt). Similarities between Horus and Jesus?
Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. Horus was the truth and the life.
Both the Good Shephard
Both were the lamb
Both are identified with a cross
Both were baptised at 30
Jesus was child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, ****.
The birth of both are marked by a star
Both were the child teacher in the temple
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst
Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set (Egyptian god of darkness, hence sun-Set)
Jesus was said to be judge of the ****. This was also said about ****, Krishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-Kiun Bacchus, Zeus and others.
Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick, raising the ****. So did Krishna(Hindu), Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others.
Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others.
Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun, Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl (Mexican not mayan though) and far more.
Jesus will be born again. So will Krishna, Vishnu, Buddha, Quetzalcoatl and others.
The story of Jesus was created/recycled and used as a tool to enslave people's minds through a dictatorial religion, Christianity. This religion is not unique in any way.
The twelve disciples are symbolism for the twelves solar bodies (yes there are twelve) and twelve astrological signs. 12 is all over the place.
During Easter, the summer solstice, the sun begins to stay out shorter and shorter until its shortest length of time in December. Jesus was born on December 25th. It takes the Sun three days to recover from the winter solstice from December 21st/22nd to December 25th. He dies in March on Easer. Hence Jesus died and rose on the third day. The same length of time it took the Babylon Son of God, Tammuz to rise again.
Also March is during the astrological sign of Aries, the Ram or... the lamb.
Jesus is associated with the fish because that is when he was supposed to have been born. During the entering of the astrological house of Pisces not the sign. Astrological houses last somewhere around 2000+ years. We are now entering the house of Aquarious.
The Christian religious day is... SUNday.
The author then speaks about who the true authors of the New Testament are. Let me assure you they are not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul or any of these Biblical characters.
As a matter of fact there is no documentation of anybody by these names ever to have been in these places at this time outside of the Bible. There is nobody named Pontius Pilate except in the Bible.
There is no written history of anybody named Moses, King David, King Solomon or most of the Biblical characters you read about except in the Bible. These are characters aer more symbolism that I could get into.
I have no problem with anybody's religious beliefs I just think it's necessary to do the research before you make that comittment.
So did Jesus really live? Or is he a biblical character that has been created and so hyped up that the whole world accepts him as LORD without looking at background information. Jesus was a duplicate, myth, and he has been used to control the populations to this day. Have you ever thought about where these religions came from? and why is Bush claiming to be a Christian? And why have so many wars been started in the past because of religion? And why was there centuries of Dark Ages when knowledge was suppressed because of religion? And why were so many people slaughtered at the inquisition because of RELIGION? It's because religion is a tool, a quite effective one at that.
Well , I dont know what to say...I have read page 1 through 10. All of you have interesting points! I was raised in a Christian household. In fact , I was baptized on June 13th 1998. I have never questioned Christianity and certainly believe GOD before all else. But one questioned that has plagued me since my diaper days is Why did GOD allow Black people to be enslaved for 400 years!???? The only two answers I got were from a classmate in the 7th grade. 1) Your not supposed to question GOD 2) He allowed it so that Black people can be strong or stonger. Well looking at black people across the world....THAT AINT NO ANSWER!!!!
Then at the start of this summer I read the **** Papers and then The Autobiography of Malcolm X. Then a whole world of questions spawned in my head. It seems at the root of all problems is the white man, which seems has caused all evil in history. Hence ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR have one name for him...WHITE DEVIL. It seems as though christianity was created by the white man centuries ago as a form of control. It seems that before any war between Great Britain/Roman Empire/US vs People of Color the white man sent Christian missionaries with BIBLES to preach that religion .The Bible has a lot of flaws. There is a plot that Christianity is the very tool of the white man as a tool of dominance. Look at Uncle Tom he did not leave his **** master because he felt he was not being a Christian ...WHAT THE F*CK. You got **** in Amerikkka calling themselves christians. See the whole plot is by the white man since the beginning of time.
SO based upon the facts , I believe in the supreme being called GOD. The CREATOR OF ALL. I live my life as if he was walking right be side me . I do not need christianity or any other religion all I need is GOD. ...NOT THE WHITE MAN!!!
What a coincidence. I just finished reading the book The DaVinci Code and I was going through the same thought process as Reality. This book really made me rethink things and research things that I thought I knew all about. I didn't realize how much of my religion I just "accepted" because it was what I was told. I encourage everyone to read this book. It really lets you see things from another side. Now, of course I haven't denounced my Christianity or anything, I just feel like my eyes have been opened. Honestly, while I was reading this book I felt like I was being let in on a secret that I wasn't supposed to know. I think it's extremely important for everyone to know why they believe what they believe. It shouldn't be something you just accept. Get out there and research
[b]I have heard so much about The Davinci Code. What exactly is it about?
^^^I don't want to be categorized though. I just want the ideas to flow.
I've read some of Buddha's philosophies as well..I hate when people have to put a label on everything as if we all were in different gangs...Being a buddhist is just living your life in a certian way..
After I read, "The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching" by Thich Nhat Hanh..I practiced the "Four noble Truths" and for the first time in my life I felt free and liberated..
I know what you mean the "Four noble Truths" are something everybody should read matter fact I'll post a summary....
The Four Noble Truths are intended to lead one out of suffering.
1 - Acknowledge that there is suffering
2 - Suffering has an origin
3 - Suffering can cease
4 - There is a path out of suffering
And then you follow the path out of suffering. Basically suffering is a direct result of desires. Then there is the Eightfold path out of suffering. This is basically what the buddhists study the path out of suffering and into an eternal bliss.
I agree that this buddhist path is valid and I have studied it and applied it to my life so in that way I can say I am buddhist.
Well , I dont know what to say...I have read page 1 through 10. All of you have interesting points! I was raised in a Christian household. In fact , I was baptized on June 13th 1998. I have never questioned Christianity and certainly believe GOD before all else. But one questioned that has plagued me since my diaper days is Why did GOD allow Black people to be enslaved for 400 years!???? The only two answers I got were from a classmate in the 7th grade. 1) Your not supposed to question GOD 2) He allowed it so that Black people can be strong or stonger. Well looking at black people across the world....THAT AINT NO ANSWER!!!!
Then at the start of this summer I read the **** Papers and then The Autobiography of Malcolm X. Then a whole world of questions spawned in my head. It seems at the root of all problems is the white man, which seems has caused all evil in history. Hence ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR have one name for him...WHITE DEVIL. It seems as though christianity was created by the white man centuries ago as a form of control. It seems that before any war between Great Britain/Roman Empire/US vs People of Color the white man sent Christian missionaries with BIBLES to preach that religion .The Bible has a lot of flaws. There is a plot that Christianity is the very tool of the white man as a tool of dominance. Look at Uncle Tom he did not leave his **** master because he felt he was not being a Christian ...WHAT THE F*CK. You got **** in Amerikkka calling themselves christians. See the whole plot is by the white man since the beginning of time.
SO based upon the facts , I believe in the supreme being called GOD. The CREATOR OF ALL. I live my life as if he was walking right be side me . I do not need christianity or any other religion all I need is GOD. ...NOT THE WHITE MAN!!!
I would rather say a specific group of white men with power and money who have ruled the world for a long time, and they have different branches all around the world. In America they are the Freemasons, in England they are the Knights (King Arthur, when the Queen knights someone...yeah), in Italy you call them the Illuminati.
^^^true! A lot of those secret societies hold a lot of money, power, and influence, not just in their perspective countries, but throughout the entire money-hungry world. Those who question their power really need to do some major research.
Also, reading through this thread, I notice some people criticize the knowledge taken from books (written by historians), then turn around and quote from the Bible :? .....kind of hypocritical, don't you think? What makes one book more worthy to quote from? The fact that it's a religious text? The fact that millions (who probably haven't read it in its entirety) believe in it? I'm sorry, but that's just not a plausable argument.
I'm also sure that people who follow the Christain religion have had "experiences" with their faith (which is probably one of the only arguments that I can half-way understand), but don't you think that people of other religions have "experienced" the same thing with their faith? Who's to say who's right and who's wrong?
BTW, Does anybody else notice that the existance of dinosaurs aren't really mentioned in religion? Do people still deny their existance or do they just not care?
BTW, Does anybody else notice that the existance of dinosaurs aren't really mentioned in religion? Do people still deny their existance or do they just not care?
Actually it's been argued that Job 40: 15 - 19 is describing a dinosaur (behemoth). Some scholars believe it's a hippo, but the verse refers to the tail of the grass eating beast as a cedar tree. It's commonly held that the Behemoth was a sauropod, proving that dinosaurs and man once walked the earth at the same time.
Just for your info. . . now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.