I know alot of people believe in the biblical character Jesus, but how about this. I was reading a book the other day and the author began to talk about the origins of Judaism and Christianity. Here is a summary of what he said.
The story of Jesus is a mythical story based on esoteric symbolism of the Sun God. Hence Jesus is the "Son of God". The crown of thorns that he wore on the cross is symbolic of the rays of Sun, and is also seen on the Statue of Liberty (which is another symbolic figure). The cross itself comes from the Egyptian Ankh, which represents life and light, the Sun.
The trinity Jesus-God-Holy Spirit parallels many other mythical stories such as Horus-Osiris-**** (Egypt). Similarities between Horus and Jesus?
Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. Horus was the truth and the life.
Both the Good Shephard
Both were the lamb
Both are identified with a cross
Both were baptised at 30
Jesus was child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, ****.
The birth of both are marked by a star
Both were the child teacher in the temple
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst
Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set (Egyptian god of darkness, hence sun-Set)
Jesus was said to be judge of the ****. This was also said about ****, Krishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-Kiun Bacchus, Zeus and others.
Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick, raising the ****. So did Krishna(Hindu), Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others.
Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others.
Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun, Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl (Mexican not mayan though) and far more.
Jesus will be born again. So will Krishna, Vishnu, Buddha, Quetzalcoatl and others.
The story of Jesus was created/recycled and used as a tool to enslave people's minds through a dictatorial religion, Christianity. This religion is not unique in any way.
The twelve disciples are symbolism for the twelves solar bodies (yes there are twelve) and twelve astrological signs. 12 is all over the place.
During Easter, the summer solstice, the sun begins to stay out shorter and shorter until its shortest length of time in December. Jesus was born on December 25th. It takes the Sun three days to recover from the winter solstice from December 21st/22nd to December 25th. He dies in March on Easer. Hence Jesus died and rose on the third day. The same length of time it took the Babylon Son of God, Tammuz to rise again.
Also March is during the astrological sign of Aries, the Ram or... the lamb.
Jesus is associated with the fish because that is when he was supposed to have been born. During the entering of the astrological house of Pisces not the sign. Astrological houses last somewhere around 2000+ years. We are now entering the house of Aquarious.
The Christian religious day is... SUNday.
The author then speaks about who the true authors of the New Testament are. Let me assure you they are not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul or any of these Biblical characters.
As a matter of fact there is no documentation of anybody by these names ever to have been in these places at this time outside of the Bible. There is nobody named Pontius Pilate except in the Bible.
There is no written history of anybody named Moses, King David, King Solomon or most of the Biblical characters you read about except in the Bible. These are characters aer more symbolism that I could get into.
I have no problem with anybody's religious beliefs I just think it's necessary to do the research before you make that comittment.
So did Jesus really live? Or is he a biblical character that has been created and so hyped up that the whole world accepts him as LORD without looking at background information. Jesus was a duplicate, myth, and he has been used to control the populations to this day. Have you ever thought about where these religions came from? and why is Bush claiming to be a Christian? And why have so many wars been started in the past because of religion? And why was there centuries of Dark Ages when knowledge was suppressed because of religion? And why were so many people slaughtered at the inquisition because of RELIGION? It's because religion is a tool, a quite effective one at that.
^^^(Provakative)Come on. You're not serious. Where's the obvious evidence.
Oh yeah, I was reading another book last night a novel about this Harvard professor's adventure. At one point the professor is discussing Christianity with his class. They talked about how Christianity always put the **** in east-facing tombs. Why? Because that is where the sun rises.
Just like the other book said, Christianity is filled with sun-worship symbology that was borrowed from cultures like the Egyptians and Babylonians. It said that's why saints have halos on their heads, to symbolize egyptian sun-disks. And december 25th is an ancient pagan holiday of sol invictus the time of the year when the days start getting longer.
All this from a seperate book written by different authors.
It also said The practice of god-eating, Holy Communion, was borrowed from the Aztecs. Even the concept of Christ dying for our sins was not original, as the self sacrifice of a young man to absolve the sins of his people appears in the earliest tradition of the Quetzalcoatl (Mexican Aztec God).
So I mean the more I read the more evidence I'm given as to how Christianity came about and where the stories came from. I would advise someone to look into this stuff it's pretty interesting.
BTW, Does anybody else notice that the existance of dinosaurs aren't really mentioned in religion? Do people still deny their existance or do they just not care?
Actually it's been argued that Job 40: 15 - 19 is describing a dinosaur (behemoth). Some scholars believe it's a hippo, but the verse refers to the tail of the grass eating beast as a cedar tree. It's commonly held that the Behemoth was a sauropod, proving that dinosaurs and man once walked the earth at the same time.
Just for your info. . . now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.
That sounds like a far-reaching interpretation to me, especially since it has yet to been proved that dinosuars and humans lived on earth together. It wouldn't make any sense, considering the mass extintion of the dinosuars, and the fact that the human species is still in existance.
Didn't say that I believe it, just giving another view.
I think that the dinosaurs were genetic mutations which were created by ungodly forces. They were destroyed in the flood.
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No! Religion is not based on faith. Religion is supposed to be based on the facts. And then you have faith in those facts.
You can take the Bible literally and have faith that what it says are facts. Or you can research the Bible and find out more about these facts. What I'm saying is that these facts are not really facts but are symbology.
Therefore your religion is based on symbology (which is not bad), and then faith is based on.....faith is not based on anything you just have faith. And then when you have faith you give up the opportunity to learn new things because you don't want to hurt your faith.
The Davinci Code is hard for me to explain. I originally thought it was a non- fiction book. It's actually a story. The author just uses the story to get information across. The information in the book is true. It's the story that is false. I didn't want to denounce my Christianity when I read it, it just made me want to step my game up a little bit. It helped me realize I need to be ready when someone has questions about my faith. I have to study "to show thyself approved"(II Timothy 2:15). I don't thinkI should be leery about reading or hearing other takes on religion because the Bible says (I John 4:1-5) "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God because many false prophets are gone out into the world....". God is infallible. He makes no mistakes, so I can test all I want. Even though my faith might falter it's not going to hurt God's stance, you know, he'll always be here, Christians or no Chrisitans.
Faith, by definition, is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see(Hebrews 11:1). Therefore I don't believe there will ever be tangible proof of God's existence. I like to think of it like this, you can't see wind either. But, you know it's there because you can see the effects of it.
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No! Religion is not based on faith. Religion is supposed to be based on the facts. And then you have faith in those facts.
You can take the Bible literally and have faith that what it says are facts. Or you can research the Bible and find out more about these facts. What I'm saying is that these facts are not really facts but are symbology.
Therefore your religion is based on symbology (which is not bad), and then faith is based on.....faith is not based on anything you just have faith. And then when you have faith you give up the opportunity to learn new things because you don't want to hurt your faith.
Faith is a fact...It also moved a mountain.
It really seems like the only books you read are always the ones that discredits the bible.I'm tired of the book reading.Christianity is not just some book called the bible.There is more behind it and if you cant relize that , then there is no point in me going back and forth....Do the research but dont base all your facts on a book.
^^^Lol! Faith isn't a fact. It is a fact that you can have faith. And I think Jesus said you can move mountains with faith, but it never literally happened.
What do you have to say about the symbology?