I know alot of people believe in the biblical character Jesus, but how about this. I was reading a book the other day and the author began to talk about the origins of Judaism and Christianity. Here is a summary of what he said.
The story of Jesus is a mythical story based on esoteric symbolism of the Sun God. Hence Jesus is the "Son of God". The crown of thorns that he wore on the cross is symbolic of the rays of Sun, and is also seen on the Statue of Liberty (which is another symbolic figure). The cross itself comes from the Egyptian Ankh, which represents life and light, the Sun.
The trinity Jesus-God-Holy Spirit parallels many other mythical stories such as Horus-Osiris-**** (Egypt). Similarities between Horus and Jesus?
Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. Horus was the truth and the life.
Both the Good Shephard
Both were the lamb
Both are identified with a cross
Both were baptised at 30
Jesus was child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, ****.
The birth of both are marked by a star
Both were the child teacher in the temple
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst
Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set (Egyptian god of darkness, hence sun-Set)
Jesus was said to be judge of the ****. This was also said about ****, Krishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-Kiun Bacchus, Zeus and others.
Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick, raising the ****. So did Krishna(Hindu), Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others.
Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others.
Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun, Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl (Mexican not mayan though) and far more.
Jesus will be born again. So will Krishna, Vishnu, Buddha, Quetzalcoatl and others.
The story of Jesus was created/recycled and used as a tool to enslave people's minds through a dictatorial religion, Christianity. This religion is not unique in any way.
The twelve disciples are symbolism for the twelves solar bodies (yes there are twelve) and twelve astrological signs. 12 is all over the place.
During Easter, the summer solstice, the sun begins to stay out shorter and shorter until its shortest length of time in December. Jesus was born on December 25th. It takes the Sun three days to recover from the winter solstice from December 21st/22nd to December 25th. He dies in March on Easer. Hence Jesus died and rose on the third day. The same length of time it took the Babylon Son of God, Tammuz to rise again.
Also March is during the astrological sign of Aries, the Ram or... the lamb.
Jesus is associated with the fish because that is when he was supposed to have been born. During the entering of the astrological house of Pisces not the sign. Astrological houses last somewhere around 2000+ years. We are now entering the house of Aquarious.
The Christian religious day is... SUNday.
The author then speaks about who the true authors of the New Testament are. Let me assure you they are not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul or any of these Biblical characters.
As a matter of fact there is no documentation of anybody by these names ever to have been in these places at this time outside of the Bible. There is nobody named Pontius Pilate except in the Bible.
There is no written history of anybody named Moses, King David, King Solomon or most of the Biblical characters you read about except in the Bible. These are characters aer more symbolism that I could get into.
I have no problem with anybody's religious beliefs I just think it's necessary to do the research before you make that comittment.
So did Jesus really live? Or is he a biblical character that has been created and so hyped up that the whole world accepts him as LORD without looking at background information. Jesus was a duplicate, myth, and he has been used to control the populations to this day. Have you ever thought about where these religions came from? and why is Bush claiming to be a Christian? And why have so many wars been started in the past because of religion? And why was there centuries of Dark Ages when knowledge was suppressed because of religion? And why were so many people slaughtered at the inquisition because of RELIGION? It's because religion is a tool, a quite effective one at that.
Didn't say that I believe it, just giving another view.
I think that the dinosaurs were genetic mutations which were created by ungodly forces. They were destroyed in the flood.
"Faith is a fact", was funny.
How can you tell me not to base my facts on a BOOK, when that is EXACTLY what you're doing?
And that's not even what I am doing. I am basing my ideas (because they are subject to change facts aren't) on bookSSS, plural.
Another View On FaithI found this on the net...I will co-sign but I'm not a atheist
To believe that life is possible, that life is worthwhile, to believe that life is more than "passing through" to a "better world," to believe that this life is worth investing in, this world is worth investing in, we are worth investing in. To believe that living this life fully, richly, humanely, is purpose enough for this brief existence. That we don't need anything more than this life, wholly engaged.
My faith is in myself and in my world. My faith is in life itself. Mine is a faith with reason, even when it seems unreasonable to persevere in faith. An atheist's faith is not built upon speculations of entities not experienced or seen or demonstrated, not upon mere wishful thinking that there might be more to life than this brief span followed by an eternity of oblivion. An atheist's faith is built upon a reasonable hope, a hope founded in reality, in demonstrable possibility:
We know, and we have seen, that people can change their world, or at least their own small corner of it, for the better, when they gather together in good will and cooperation and determination. We know, and we have seen, that sometimes when life seems hopeless, circumstances can change for the better, chance can fall upon us for good as well as for ill. We know, and we have experienced, that the future often does not become what we expected it to become, whether for good or for ill. We know that in the end, the only way we shall find out what lies ahead, around the next corner, is to travel the road that leads us around the next corner. And so we have a reasonable basis for hope, based on the experiences of our forebears and fellows as well as on our own.
The Davinci Code is hard for me to explain. I originally thought it was a non- fiction book. It's actually a story. The author just uses the story to get information across. The information in the book is true. It's the story that is false. I didn't want to denounce my Christianity when I read it, it just made me want to step my game up a little bit. It helped me realize I need to be ready when someone has questions about my faith. I have to study "to show thyself approved"(II Timothy 2:15). I don't thinkI should be leery about reading or hearing other takes on religion because the Bible says (I John 4:1-5) "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God because many false prophets are gone out into the world....". God is infallible. He makes no mistakes, so I can test all I want. Even though my faith might falter it's not going to hurt God's stance, you know, he'll always be here, Christians or no Chrisitans.
Faith, by definition, is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see(Hebrews 11:1). Therefore I don't believe there will ever be tangible proof of God's existence. I like to think of it like this, you can't see wind either. But, you know it's there because you can see the effects of it.
I'm gonna have to cosign to her^^ and dab her up for the good comparison to the Divinci Code
Didn't say that I believe it, just giving another view.
I think that the dinosaurs were genetic mutations which were created by ungodly forces. They were destroyed in the flood.
That was just stupid..lol..I swear your an idoit :wink:
Nobody is saying that God doesn't exist. We are just questioning the validity of the story of Jesus.
I have proposed the idea that he is not original in any way, and that there is no historical documentation of his life outside the Bible or many other biblical characters for that matter.
Ok, we do believe in a God force, but I would like to know what the Da Vinci code says about Jesus because it would be crazy if it matched up with some of the other stuff.
"Faith is a fact", was funny.
How can you tell me not to base my facts on a BOOK, when that is EXACTLY what you're doing?
And that's not even what I am doing. I am basing my ideas (because they are subject to change facts aren't) on bookSSS, plural.
How are you going to tell me what im doing??? I know I never said that in either of my post.I refuse to simply believe in a book or just what Ive been taught.Im a firm believer based on my experiences with God and what ive seen other go through and how they persevered when yield to God.
I would love to tell you what the Da Vinci code says about Jesus but I fear that it would spoil it for the people who haven't read it. So, I'll say this, it says that Jesus was more human than we like to think of him. Ok, ok, I guess I'll give some of it away. There is a suggestion that Jesus was married. (Someone mentioned that in an earlier post). It would be different if the book just made up the idea and then left it for everyone to ponder, but it doesn't. It gives evidence to back up its claim. Evidence that is not easily refuted, in my eyes.
Reality, I understand your posts, I wasn't trying to say you guys didn't believe in God I just thought that might be what some people were thinking. Especially Christians because if one were to say that Jesus didn't really exist, that would be like saying God didn't either becasue many Christians believe they are one in the same. You know, the Trinity. God manifest in three different ways.
