1-Nicaraguan contras. Reagan called them the "moral
equivalent of our founding fathers." U.S. created
**** army in Nicaragua murdered tens of thousands of
people and destroyed a social revolution; today
majority of Nicaraguans live in poverty in the 2nd
poorest country in the hemisphere after Haiti.
2-PATCO. 11,000 union air traffic controllers fired by
Reagan, opened and encouraged a new era of union
busting by employers and anti-union policies.
3-Reganomics, as Papa Bush called it "voodoo
economics," how to carry out the biggest tax cut for
the rich and biggest military buildup in decades while
maintaining a balanced budget. It didn't work.
4-Afghanistan. CIA created, trained, funded, and armed
"freedom fighters" in Afghanistan, including Osama bin
Laden, to fight the Soviets.
5-"Trees Cause Pollution". Said Reagan, removing
thousands of acres of public land to hand them over to
timber, **** and mining corporations.
6-Star Wars, MX "peacekeeper" ****, B-1 bomber. And
other destabilizing weapons systems intended to foster
a new arms race with the Soviets and create a new
U.S.-first strike capability.
7-Bitburg. Reagan's pays homage to ****'s most elite
military group while visiting an SS cemetery, calls
the SS victims of **** "just as surely as the
victims in the concentration camps."
8-Antonin Scalia. Appointed by Reagan to the Supreme
Court.
9-Angola. CIA funds and arms a **** guerilla army
that kills millions in a two-decade war, with an
ongoing legacy of the world's most land mines.
10- Civil Rights. Justice Department slashes funding
for civil rights enforcement.
11- "Aristocratic Movement". As one historian put it.
Ron and Nancy become patrons of aristocratic culture
in fashion, communications,etc. "Dynasty" and "Lives
of the Rich and Famous" become major TV shows.
12- Iran Contra Affair. Secret White House cabal sells
arms to Iran to fund contras, subverting the
Constitution and avoiding Congressional oversight.
13- Guatemala. Rightwing, evangelist dictatorship
funded and armed, with frequent massacres of the
indigenous population, and 1/8 of population
displaced. Dictator Rios Montt says on national TV he
had "declared a state of siege so we could ****
legally." Regan says Rios Montt had a "bum rap" on
human rights abuses.
14- "Ketchup is a vegetable." Dept. of Agriculture
says ketchup can be counted as a vegetable for
calculating nutritional value in school lunches to
facilitate major cuts in public school lunch funding.
15- William Rehnquist. Appointed Chief Justice of the
Supreme Court by Reagan.
16- Savings and Loan ****. Created by banking
industry deregulation,costs U.S. taxpayers billions to
bail out failed S&Ls.
17- Homelessness. Grows by the millions as
"Reaganville" homeless camps are created across U.S.
Regan says many are "homeless by choice."
18- Conspicuous consumption. "Yachting," "Gourmet,"
"Architectural Digest," and "Wine Spectator" are the
fastest growing U.S.magazines, with the aid of the
biggest tax cut for the rich in U.S.history.
19- Industrial wastelands. Mass shift of high-wage
industrial jobs overseas,creating ghost lands in the
industrial heartland.
20- South Africa. U.S. opposes divestiture and
continues to back white rule in Pretoria defying
growing worldwide anti-apartheid movement.
21- CIA drug running. CIA supports drug empires in
Latin America,including Manuel Noriega in Panama and
drug kingpins in Colombia to support U.S. policies in
region, fostering growth of crack and drug crisis in
U.S.
22- Ferdinand Marcos. VP George Bush salutes Marcos'
"commitment to democracy" as U.S. continues to prop up
his dictatorship in the Philippines.
23- James Watt, Earl Butz, Ed Meese. Reagan cabinet
members.
24- El Salvador. U.S. funded and trained death-squads
and their government sponsors **** tens of thousands
of Salvadorans, plus an archbishop and U.S.nuns.
25- Income gap. Richest 10% hold 73% of country's net
worth following the Reagan years. Ratio of executive
pay to factory worker pay goes from 42:1 in 1980 to
419:1.
Got this in an e-mail, wanted to share.
I said that it didnt affect you so why do you give a eff? Unless u like 30 sumthin'
But for the sake of an argument.....
Well...I dont need a president (or gov't)to give me a hand up or a hand out, because I can do for myself. And what I cant do for myself my daddy can. I dont need gov't assistance for anything so that 'he dont care about black people' argument is so yesterday.
Haha :roll: Your words speak volumes. First and foremost, nobody EVER said anything about the Gov giving out handouts. The government is put in place to serve the people and make sure the people’s needs are met. The President of the United States' responsibility is to implement programs so that everyone in the country is represented. Take a note from Bill Clinton's camp. He gave no handouts he simply implemented programs that would make sure everybody was taken care of. IE HE GAVE A F*CK!
PS Your whole "I wasn't living so it doesn't affect me" comment baffles me. Don't you know that we are still being affected by political decisions that happened 100 years ago. Believe me you are MOST definitely affected.
Im just keepin it real....You are presenting a 'woe is me' argument that is invalid..The fact of the matter is, you choose to be affected by the things that can affect you. Reagan can implement all the programs that he wanted to, but truthfully, not a blacks at that time took advantage of them. Secondly, who is to say that ANY federal program can alleviate poverty, im sorry but with your GREAT PREZ BILLY CLINTON, I still saw bums out in the park beggin for food...o yea, :roll:
Ok I see that you are more NEOCONSERVATIVE than Uncle Clerance Thomas himself. So for you I must break it down slowwwwwwly! The governments job is not to make people get involved in the programs it is to IMPLEMENT the programs. You have a serious delusion of the Gov and what it's purpose is. With people thinking like you we would be in a much worst situation as a people than we are now.
Time the eff out pimpin!!!
I am just as conscious and afro-centric as the next man, but I am a grown **** man and I am not relying on gov't programs that treat me like im some charity case hail no! I am a man and I can do for myself dont need no help.
BTW, I know the job of the gov't :roll: all i was saying was do for yourself and make ur own dough, and you will feel better about urself in the end...
What I am saying is, you cant blame one person---or the gov't for your problems. Reagan did what he felt was good for some people, not whites necesarily, because there are Rich blacks....but he knew you cant please everyone all of the time.....but he tried to please who he could though....
Also Im saying, do for yourself, go make your own paper--not only will it build character in you, it will make you feel better about yourself. Dont rely on gov't programs for nuthin because in the end, you'll just be another statistic for 'blacks on welfare'
Whoa!!! that last statement let me know exactly what I am dealing with. A lot of NEOCONSERVATIVES like to talk about the horrible stats of "blacks on welfare" but the truth is, listen closely..... 70 PERCENT of the people on WELFARE ARE WHITE!!! So don't talk to me about being another statistic of "Blacks on welfare" that is plain ignorant! Secondly grow up my brotha. I respect your "work hard to get far" thinking and that is good to a certain point but what you must understand is that IT IS THE GOVERNMENTS duty to provide for the people. We pay them, they work for us. We must make sure that we elect somebody who is going to look out for everybody. While you are down here talking about "Do for yourself"... believe me somebody is looking out for everybody else. Regan cared for rich people. His Reganomics put more money in their pockets than anybody else and George Bush attemped to the same thing but failed. You see it is only right "to work hard to get far" but you must have government implemented social programs to help those who start of 10 steps behind everybody else.
What I am saying is, you cant blame one person---or the gov't for your problems. Reagan did what he felt was good for some people, not whites necesarily, because there are Rich blacks....but he knew you cant please everyone all of the time.....but he tried to please who he could though....
Also Im saying, do for yourself, go make your own paper--not only will it build character in you, it will make you feel better about yourself. Dont rely on gov't programs for nuthin because in the end, you'll just be another statistic for 'blacks on welfare'
Whoa!!! that last statement let me know exactly what I am dealing with. A lot of NEOCONSERVATIVES like to talk about the horrible stats of "blacks on welfare" but the truth is, listen closely..... 70 PERCENT of the people on WELFARE ARE WHITE!!! So don't talk to me about being another statistic of "Blacks on welfare" that is plain ignorant! Secondly grow up my brotha. I respect your "work hard to get far" thinking and that is good to a certain point but what you must understand is that IT IS THE GOVERNMENTS duty to provide for the people. We pay them, they work for us. We must make sure that we elect somebody who is going to look out for everybody. While you are down here talking about "Do for yourself"... believe me somebody is looking out for everybody else. Regan cared for rich people. His Reganomics put more money in their pockets than anybody else and George Bush attemped to the same thing but failed. You see it is only right "to work hard to get far" but you must have government implemented social programs to help those who start of 10 steps behind everybody else.
ooh lawd! I was just stating an example of a statistic not an actual statistic(notice I dodnt give # and % :roll: ) You are totally missin the point playa!
Im about to bold a couple of key points for you just in case you weren't reading....
-The gov't dosen't have to do anything for you, do for yourself dammit!
-I dont know about you, but when I bring home my checks from work, I feel like more of a man than if I were to get one in the mail the first of the month...sorry.
-I never made this a color issue, you did, I just was saying get ur OWN weight up.
I understand and realize that security is provided by the feds thus we pay taxes but for evrything else, please...Dont need their help.
....'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...."
10- Civil Rights. Justice Department slashes funding
for civil rights enforcement.
16- Savings and Loan ****. Created by banking
industry deregulation,costs U.S. taxpayers billions to
bail out failed S&Ls.
17- Homelessness. Grows by the millions as
"Reaganville" homeless camps are created across U.S.
Regan says many are "homeless by choice."
20- South Africa. U.S. opposes divestiture and
continues to back white rule in Pretoria defying
growing worldwide anti-apartheid movement.
.
23- James Watt, Earl Butz, Ed Meese. Reagan cabinet
members.
24- El Salvador. U.S. funded and trained death-squads
and their government sponsors **** tens of thousands
of Salvadorans, plus an archbishop and U.S.nuns.
25- Income gap. Richest 10% hold 73% of country's net
worth following the Reagan years. Ratio of executive
pay to factory worker pay goes from 42:1 in 1980 to
419:1.
I love these reasons. He ain't do hardly nothing for black people, and he was rascist for what I know. When he won election, he went straight to Philadelphia, Mississippi and talked to the people about justice. That city was all about rascism, everyone nationally knew that. And then when he went there, he spoke to an all white crowd. WTF is that. Oh well, he will not be missed by me
Yeah my parents told me he was racist too. I don't know much about him, but from what I do know is that he was for the rich and not the.....ot so fortunate and he didn't do anything for us black people...SO I aint mourning his death!
Im not mouring Reagan because...
1) I was extremely young when he was in office so I dont really know his contributions to our country...
2) I dont really care...not too sound cold. but hell, I didnt know his **** personally...
ooh lawd! I was just stating an example of a statistic not an actual statistic(notice I dodnt give # and % :roll: ) You are totally missin the point playa!
Im about to bold a couple of key points for you just in case you weren't reading....
-The gov't dosen't have to do anything for you, do for yourself dammit!
-I dont know about you, but when I bring home my checks from work, I feel like more of a man than if I were to get one in the mail the first of the month...sorry.
-I never made this a color issue, you did, I just was saying get ur OWN weight up.
I understand and realize that security is provided by the feds thus we pay taxes but for evrything else, please...Dont need their help.
....'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...."
Haha good luck to you in the future my brotha. I find it extremely hypocritical that you feel you have to state you are concious and afrocentric when your political views place you in the top tier of NEOCONSERVATIVES across the nation. Honestly, let me ask you a question if you tell ANY black leader, democrat or for educated person for that sake, the stuff you just told me, how do you think they would look at you. Now let me respond for the last time to your comments...
-The government does have to do something for you. You are one of those people who just sit back and let your elected officals do what they want with the country. I am not, I am a voting citizen and I demand that my voice be heard and the government serve me... Not the other way around.
-Who the f*ck was talkin about the feeling you get when getting paid. F dat, I'm talking about real life and the situations that real people are. Key point, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is all fine and dandy but F dat somepeople need those bootstraps first.
-Hahaha :lol: Reagan made it a race issue buddy. And your ignorant "black welfare" comment definetly made it a race issue.
But don't worry you are not the only person who thinks like you. There are many many NEOconservatives in the world. All in all good debate. I still respect you as a brotha just not as a politican!
70 percent is white
but how much is the black percentage
cuz if u think about it there's alot more white ppl than blacks
i hate how yall try 2 mislead wit statistics
give the man a lil props sh*t, he did help end the cold war
ooh lawd! I was just stating an example of a statistic not an actual statistic(notice I dodnt give # and % :roll: ) You are totally missin the point playa!
Im about to bold a couple of key points for you just in case you weren't reading....
-The gov't dosen't have to do anything for you, do for yourself dammit!
-I dont know about you, but when I bring home my checks from work, I feel like more of a man than if I were to get one in the mail the first of the month...sorry.
-I never made this a color issue, you did, I just was saying get ur OWN weight up.
I understand and realize that security is provided by the feds thus we pay taxes but for evrything else, please...Dont need their help.
....'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...."
Haha good luck to you in the future my brotha. I find it extremely hypocritical that you feel you have to state you are concious and afrocentric when your political views place you in the top tier of NEOCONSERVATIVES across the nation. Honestly, let me ask you a question if you tell ANY black leader, democrat or for educated person for that sake, the stuff you just told me, how do you think they would look at you. Now let me respond for the last time to your comments...
-The government does have to do something for you. You are one of those people who just sit back and let your elected officals do what they want with the country. I am not, I am a voting citizen and I demand that my voice be heard and the government serve me... Not the other way around.
-Who the f*ck was talkin about the feeling you get when getting paid. F dat, I'm talking about real life and the situations that real people are. Key point, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is all fine and dandy but F dat somepeople need those bootstraps first.
-Hahaha :lol: Reagan made it a race issue buddy. And your ignorant "black welfare" comment definetly made it a race issue.
But don't worry you are not the only person who thinks like you. There are many many NEOconservatives in the world. All in all good debate. I still respect you as a brotha just not as a politican!
You know what...starting now, Im going to adopt HU_Intellect's way of thinking....
-Im going to quit my job right now, cuz hey, the gov't got my ****
-F dat, Im going to sit around the house like a pregnant mexican. why? cuz the gov't got me
- Im going to hoot and holla as much as I can, even though im hollerin about a bunch of nuthin, im going to do it just to Prove My Blackness.
-Im going to call everyone ignorant that doesnt agree with my '**** gonna sell me tonite' mind set.
-Im going to call everyone a racist that looks out for the rich, even though there are rich blacks, **** always taught me that all blacks are dirt poor and need to be helped---so imma believe him......
Ya dig?
ooh lawd! I was just stating an example of a statistic not an actual statistic(notice I dodnt give # and % :roll: ) You are totally missin the point playa!
Im about to bold a couple of key points for you just in case you weren't reading....
-The gov't dosen't have to do anything for you, do for yourself dammit!
-I dont know about you, but when I bring home my checks from work, I feel like more of a man than if I were to get one in the mail the first of the month...sorry.
-I never made this a color issue, you did, I just was saying get ur OWN weight up.
I understand and realize that security is provided by the feds thus we pay taxes but for evrything else, please...Dont need their help.
....'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...."
Haha good luck to you in the future my brotha. I find it extremely hypocritical that you feel you have to state you are concious and afrocentric when your political views place you in the top tier of NEOCONSERVATIVES across the nation. Honestly, let me ask you a question if you tell ANY black leader, democrat or for educated person for that sake, the stuff you just told me, how do you think they would look at you. Now let me respond for the last time to your comments...
-The government does have to do something for you. You are one of those people who just sit back and let your elected officals do what they want with the country. I am not, I am a voting citizen and I demand that my voice be heard and the government serve me... Not the other way around.
-Who the f*ck was talkin about the feeling you get when getting paid. F dat, I'm talking about real life and the situations that real people are. Key point, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is all fine and dandy but F dat somepeople need those bootstraps first.
-Hahaha :lol: Reagan made it a race issue buddy. And your ignorant "black welfare" comment definetly made it a race issue.
But don't worry you are not the only person who thinks like you. There are many many NEOconservatives in the world. All in all good debate. I still respect you as a brotha just not as a politican!
You know what...starting now, Im going to adopt HU_Intellect's way of thinking....
-Im going to quit my job right now, cuz hey, the gov't got my ****
-F dat, Im going to sit around the house like a pregnant mexican. why? cuz the gov't got me
- Im going to hoot and holla as much as I can, even though im hollerin about a bunch of nuthin, im going to do it just to Prove My Blackness.
-Im going to call everyone ignorant that doesnt agree with my '**** gonna sell me tonite' mind set.
-Im going to call everyone a racist that looks out for the rich, even though there are rich blacks, **** always taught me that all blacks are dirt poor and need to be helped---so imma believe him......
Ya dig?
u gotta face it ....itz not cool 2 be a middle class black (shoot look at rap)
ooh lawd! I was just stating an example of a statistic not an actual statistic(notice I dodnt give # and % :roll: ) You are totally missin the point playa!
Im about to bold a couple of key points for you just in case you weren't reading....
-The gov't dosen't have to do anything for you, do for yourself dammit!
-I dont know about you, but when I bring home my checks from work, I feel like more of a man than if I were to get one in the mail the first of the month...sorry.
-I never made this a color issue, you did, I just was saying get ur OWN weight up.
I understand and realize that security is provided by the feds thus we pay taxes but for evrything else, please...Dont need their help.
....'ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...."
Haha good luck to you in the future my brotha. I find it extremely hypocritical that you feel you have to state you are concious and afrocentric when your political views place you in the top tier of NEOCONSERVATIVES across the nation. Honestly, let me ask you a question if you tell ANY black leader, democrat or for educated person for that sake, the stuff you just told me, how do you think they would look at you. Now let me respond for the last time to your comments...
-The government does have to do something for you. You are one of those people who just sit back and let your elected officals do what they want with the country. I am not, I am a voting citizen and I demand that my voice be heard and the government serve me... Not the other way around.
-Who the f*ck was talkin about the feeling you get when getting paid. F dat, I'm talking about real life and the situations that real people are. Key point, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is all fine and dandy but F dat somepeople need those bootstraps first.
-Hahaha :lol: Reagan made it a race issue buddy. And your ignorant "black welfare" comment definetly made it a race issue.
But don't worry you are not the only person who thinks like you. There are many many NEOconservatives in the world. All in all good debate. I still respect you as a brotha just not as a politican!
You know what...starting now, Im going to adopt HU_Intellect's way of thinking....
-Im going to quit my job right now, cuz hey, the gov't got my ****
-F dat, Im going to sit around the house like a pregnant mexican. why? cuz the gov't got me
- Im going to hoot and holla as much as I can, even though im hollerin about a bunch of nuthin, im going to do it just to Prove My Blackness.
-Im going to call everyone ignorant that doesnt agree with my '**** gonna sell me tonite' mind set.
-Im going to call everyone a racist that looks out for the rich, even though there are rich blacks, **** always taught me that all blacks are dirt poor and need to be helped---so imma believe him......
Ya dig?
Ummmm... you amuse me slightly, but in a dumb a*s, point my finger and laugh at you kinda way. I could respond to your ignorace and make my I'm going to adopt Black"wish I was a"brotha's way of thinking, but your words speak volumes. Instead of me making you look even more ignorant than you have already made yourself look.... I will simply point and laugh :lol: :lol: :lol:
good luck to you in the future my brotha. I find it extremely hypocritical that you feel you have to state you are concious and afrocentric when your political views place you in the top tier of NEOCONSERVATIVES across the nation. Honestly, let me ask you a question if you tell ANY black leader, democrat or for educated person for that sake, the stuff you just told me, how do you think they would look at you. Now let me respond for the last time to your comments...
-The government does have to do something for you. You are one of those people who just sit back and let your elected officals do what they want with the country. I am not, I am a voting citizen and I demand that my voice be heard and the government serve me... Not the other way around.
-Who the f*ck was talkin about the feeling you get when getting paid. F dat, I'm talking about real life and the situations that real people are. Key point, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is all fine and dandy but F dat somepeople need those bootstraps first.
-Hahaha :lol: Reagan made it a race issue buddy. And your ignorant "black welfare" comment definetly made it a race issue.
But don't worry you are not the only person who thinks like you. There are many many NEOconservatives in the world. All in all good debate. I still respect you as a brotha just not as a politican!
