This is kind of based on a late-night/early-morning discussion that I was having with a friend of mine.
Do you think that color discrimination is still prevalent in the African-American community? If so, what do you think it says about how we view ourselves and the world around us?
.... wow reall good discussion guys.... like Mia said the question stated "Do you think that color discrimination is still prevalent in the African-American community?",,,, the awser is yes.... and thats it ... yes... i was watching a film on it and basicly thats the reason that tuskeegee jus got its first dark skinned president in the 80's..... and darkskinned mayor then too.... jus sayin....
don't bother saying it isn't universally true, thats truly a given. (nitpickers)
whew.. look how i can quote lil ol me on that.
if it ain't twistin my words, its ignorin em huh?
and while i commend you on the facts you keep insisting on including in your rebuttals.. my responses have only dealt with the mentalities DURING, and AFTER slavery. bump whatever else you talkin bout.. you still haven't proved that slavery hasn't affected modern colorism
whew.. look how i can quote lil ol me on that.
if it ain't twistin my words, its ignorin em huh?
and while i commend you on the facts you keep insisting on including in your rebuttals.. my responses have only dealt with the mentalities DURING, and AFTER slavery. bump whatever else you talkin bout.. you still haven't proved that slavery hasn't affected modern colorism
If it's not nitpicking, it's twisting, and now it's just plain ignoring. Whatever.
Oh and another thing: If African-American elitism and color preferences have been in existence before slavery, then how could it possibly be a result of slavery and 'white is right'? We were here playing color games about three hundred years before Columbus got lost and played it off as discovering the New World! Meaning one thing: we had never seen a white man in order to garner the opinion that he was of the better race!
Hey, it can be said that slavery further perpetuated the color preferences that we ALREADY had and now see in the African-American community today. But it sure didn't start it.
& since nobody can make this connection i will try to lay it out as point blank as possible. i said that people are attracted to each other based on how they think they will reproduce....
Yoooooo Bison look at that ****,... Boy i bet she can go through labor in like 3 minutes... i gotta get at her...
Na look at them hips ova thea, i mean i dont wanna marry her but boy do i wanna see that labor...
Human Attraction
"According to Darwin, it is based on the bases of reproduction. Those males and females that look the most healthy will be the ones to find a mate the quickest and be able to pass those traits on to future generations. "The Nature Of Human Attraction
"Health and fertility issues also reside on the attraction scene. Much of the attraction research suggests that many are looking for someone with which their offspring would be given the best advantage. Men seem to be looking for birthing hips and an hourglass figure that suggests a good womanly instinct and perhaps gives insight into motherly intuitions. (Traflinger, 1996)"
The Rules of Attraction in the Game of Love | LiveScience
"What exactly is encoded in the hip ratio? A big fat clue to whether the person will have enough energy to care for offspring."
take your pick. i'm still not sure why its so difficult to grasp the concept of subconscious thought..“That portion of mental activity of which the individual has little or no conscious perception.” what this means dear BisonBoy, is that it enters your mind WITHOUT you realizing it. animal instince if you will. now if even after i have practically illustrated a children's book for you, you STILL don't see my point- you probably should avoid passing down your genes to anyone. it's for the good of the children...
If it's not nitpicking, it's twisting, and now it's just plain ignoring. Whatever.
as long as you're aware.
i*heart*pie wrote:
Oh and another thing: If African-American elitism and color preferences have been in existence before slavery, then how could it possibly be a result of slavery and 'white is right'? We were here playing color games about three hundred years before Columbus got lost and played it off as discovering the New World! Meaning one thing: we had never seen a white man in order to garner the opinion that he was of the better race!
that's a concept i've never been introduced to, and sorry but i won't take it at face value. perhaps you could point me in the right direction to where i can verify that for myself?
Yall really goin H.A.M on this thread.... i mean shoot it exsist.. and untill Blacks get together... we gone hurt eachother by sayin this color is better than this color.... hell we all black... arent we.... ?
Quite the pity, madam. Check out this link here: RaceandHistory.com - BLACK CIVILIZATIONS OF ANCIENT AMERICA*The Olmecs are known to be the mother culture of South American native peoples and the first civilization in South America. They are also of African heritage.
k, i didn't see anything in that link about early colorism.. but if i missed it i apologize. i'm not refuting what you said (yet), i just wanted to know where you got the idea about the first blacks in america being "elitists".
k, i didn't see anything in that link about early colorism.. but if i missed it i apologize. i'm not refuting what you said (yet), i just wanted to know where you got the idea about the first blacks in america being "elitists".
i learned in class that many Light skiined house..negros thought that beacuse they were fair skinned that they were an upper class form of africans..(really beacuse they were decendants of the master or wife,,) but as we all kno they were all slaves because the status of the child followed the mother.... exp free daddy plus **** mama equals **** off spring.... thats why ,,, but i never herd of an eleitist Black.... the first blacks in america were induntred servants who came from england.... but the rights of them were restricted as well....
The great Napoleon Bonaparte once said, that "History is written by the winners". Just because it's not found or taught in our school systems doesn't mean it didn't occur. You just personally have to go look for it. I could give you books and even more links, but then I'd be doing something that you should be doing for yourself.
I press towards the elitist community because the elite little more than people of great wealth, opportunity, and wisdom in a community. Ones who are often fit to govern in a set hierarchy. W.E.B. Du Bois called these folks in our community the "Talented Tenth". Elite doesn't always mean snobby and offputting. That alone is just human nature. But I digress.
Even so, to go on to say that the color preference issue began with slavery is incorrect on its own standing. To say that would make color preference solely an African-American problem. It most is certainly not (Just like how ghetto is not a Black thing). Every ethnic group has had an issue with color preferences.
