It doesn't matter BUT we must understand each others stuggle in order to heal and move on. Also, It seems as if black females are left to tend to 'our' struggles without any recognition or help from black males.
Understood, so youre saying give credit where credit is due. Indeed we should, but no one should be looking for praise or reprisals. I dont think Harriet Tubman thought "Well, mine as well be known for all that I do" when she freed dem slaves. Everyones struggle is unique, but you have to be an adult about the situation and get the hell on past it without further talk about how upset it makes you or how trifling someone else is for not recognizing or helping. What Im saying is, getting the job done is better than being recognized for it.
Whatever happened to "doing what's necessary" and not whats popular? I see people cry all the time, saying how cheated they were out of credit for something they did...God knows, and thats what matters. I know men who raise children on their own and make fine fathers that we should all model ourselves after and I don't hear one shout of injustice; just excuses and remarks like, "Well for every one of them theres 5 of us". Lets play, "Whos got it worse?" shall we?
Whos got it worse than White men? Everyone.
Whos got it worse than White women? Black men
Whos got it worse than Black men? Black women?
Whos got it worse than Black women? Latinos.
Whos got it worse than Latinos? Everyone else
And the crazy thing is, I bet some of the people commenting on this topic doesnt know what desperate tastes like, or how it feels to scrape the bottom of the barrel to drink splintered water that curdles your stomach but satiates your need. Make it work, or die.
Thank you man. I was ready to continue the arguement then I read your comments and they on point. No matter who you are in this world, and no matter what kind of stereo types you have against you or what your ancestors had to deal with you still gotta progress in life for yourself despite those things put on you. And believe it or not, everybody including white people got burdens place on them and DON'T get everything in life exactly like they want it to be. Do what you have to do because it's going to benefit you and your family the best, and afterwards don't look for the recognition look for the initial goal that you had to be accomplished. As far as understanding each others struggle that's impossible. Black females think they have it worst while males think they have it worst so how can we understand it? My mother had to raise me, my sister, and my brother for just about all of our lives by ourself, which had to be a hardship, but she overcame. My brother, sister, and I had to grow up without a father which wasn't a hard thing. Yea, women were forced to play that role too, but really NOTHING can replace a father figure like a father figure. Me and my brother especially had to go through life with that void. My brother is not doing great and I know he would of made it a lot better in life if my father didn't leave us, but on the bright side I'm on the road to sucess and I'm sure he won't be left running in the same place his entire life. The fact is, both of us got struggles and no matter what we both gotta deal with it. You were on point Tres.
I hate to curse...NO, really i do. But did either of you read what i typed?!?!?!?!? Sh*t...The proof is in the damn puddin' or will you continue to ignore that too?? I'm not talking about your life or what you've been through!!! ... I want everyone in this damn thread to take a step back and think about women and how we are viewed/treated. Then tell me why we are forced to defend ourselves. Can anybody answer that? where the f*ck are our 'brothas' when we are being disrespected or hit?? Why aren't we being protected?? Once again, where the f*ck are you? Hiding behind something i suppose. With all that being said...if you want to be known as a leader, then lead. Since, yall MF's like to bring up roles, how can you call yourself a real man and can't protect the women in your own community. Okay, i'm done ranting. Take your thread back!
As black women, we have lived the struggle of the black man. But you guys don't realize and have not lived ours...nuff said
much respect to your opinion, but i gotta disagree with that. out of all the stereotypes from other races and the expectations placed upon the black man by not only other races, but our own black women, we have yet to scratch the surface of surpassing those, and thats a hell of a challenge.
as black men, we ARE the most imitated of all genders/races. everyone wants to be like us but no one wants to be us... and then they go and imitate us in the WORST possible way - further perpetuating the image that we are good for nothing but trouble, a cheap laugh, and manual labor. there are some of us that are trying to excel in life, but there are others that make it even harder for us to shake that stigma, so we have to work EVEN harder, often busting our **** to be told it wasnt good enough. im an educated, clean cut brotha myself, but i still see myself getting followed in stores and at times confronted by security for just minding my own business.
not to say that black women dont have struggles, but unless youve been thru some traumatic stuff, i doubt very much you can liken the black woman's experience to that of the black male... all issues concerning female anatomy (pregnancy,periods, cramps,etc. )aside.
ummmm....as a black woman...i'd agree with this ...i think out in the world concerning jobs and education...or even excelling in life...black men do have a hard time...Black Women have come so far that we kind of surpassed our Black Men...gettin better jobs and better respect out in the Job and Education fields...but i think thats also very much due to the fact that there are many black men who RUIN it for good Black men and their recovery is much harder for them as it would be for us....HOWEVER...considering the amount of things and crap black women must go through...pregnancy, periods, or things concerning our bodies....also television...the media...the image they created for women....it is also HARD for us...but its hard in a differect aspect...I do agree that black men are the most imitated which leads to stereotypes and further hardships....
but who hasnt had it hard?? there are people outside the united states that face WAY more than we do....
count ur blessings
hmmm....i guess i just learned that women crave chocolate during this time in thier little crazy cycles...
i thought it was just when they were in the mood or something...
i learn something everyday from this site :???:
I hate to curse...NO, really i do. But did either of you read what i typed?!?!?!?!? Sh*t...The proof is in the damn puddin' or will you continue to ignore that too?? I'm not talking about your life or what you've been through!!! ... I want everyone in this damn thread to take a step back and think about women and how we are viewed/treated. Then tell me why we are forced to defend ourselves. Can anybody answer that? where the f*ck are our 'brothas' when we are being disrespected or hit?? Why aren't we being protected?? Once again, where the f*ck are you? Hiding behind something i suppose. With all that being said...if you want to be known as a leader, then lead. Since, yall MF's like to bring up roles, how can you call yourself a real man and can't protect the women in your own community. Okay, i'm done ranting. Take your thread back!
I mentioned my life and what I've been through because that's what I represent and that's who I am and I don't carry the attributes that you mentioned. In this household I'm always here to defend my mother and sister despite not having a role model or anyone to look up to. Every man isn't leaving women out to dry and disrespecting them. It's men who disrespect women in this world and that's something I don't stand for at all and that's one reason why I'm going into the profession that I am. At the same time women who don't support their good men that are around aren't on the right road either. All I can do is continue to be an example and influence to people around me and do my job for myself in hope that I can have an impact on the people around me.
I don't know all your personal experiences or nothing but please don't think that's what all black men are about. It's always goin to be unfortunate situations and people who don't know their job and the right way to do things, but don't let that take away from the good that is present, because the good that is present had to get through so much to get to the point where they are.
And i don't think it's a matter of making a competition out of struggles. It's just simply discussing the issues. I'm with Jazzy, u have to at least acknowledge it. I think saying "it doesn't matter. We all have struggles" is a blatant slap in the face & a way of downgrading/ignoring what someone else goes thru. If u don't know (or care) that a problem is there, how can u then go about fixing it?
(peeks out from behind chair) i....i acknowledge it *sniff* :\
