help:15 year old boy in search of chocolate
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Started by Afro-American
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Jun 2005
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Wisdom_Tree wrote:Understood, so youre saying give credit where credit is due. Indeed we should, but no one should be looking for praise or reprisals. I dont think Harriet Tubman thought "Well, mine as well be known for all that I do" when she freed dem slaves. Everyones struggle is unique, but you have to be an adult about the situation and get the hell on past it without further talk about how upset it makes you or how trifling someone else is for not recognizing or helping. What Im saying is, getting the job done is better than being recognized for it. Whatever happened to "doing what's necessary" and not whats popular? I see people cry all the time, saying how cheated they were out of credit for something they did...God knows, and thats what matters. I know men who raise children on their own and make fine fathers that we should all model ourselves after and I don't hear one shout of injustice; just excuses and remarks like, "Well for every one of them theres 5 of us". Lets play, "Whos got it worse?" shall we? Whos got it worse than White men? Everyone. Whos got it worse than White women? Black men Whos got it worse than Black men? Black women? Whos got it worse than Black women? Latinos. Whos got it worse than Latinos? Everyone else And the crazy thing is, I bet some of the people commenting on this topic doesnt know what desperate tastes like, or how it feels to scrape the bottom of the barrel to drink splintered water that curdles your stomach but satiates your need. Make it work, or die.MissJazzyAKA wrote:It doesn't matter BUT we must understand each others stuggle in order to heal and move on. Also, It seems as if black females are left to tend to 'our' struggles without any recognition or help from black males.
Afro-American wrote:...only on HBCU could a latin boy's menstrual cycle be turned into a civil rights issue
DaStrongSilentType wrote:much respect to your opinion, but i gotta disagree with that. out of all the stereotypes from other races and the expectations placed upon the black man by not only other races, but our own black women, we have yet to scratch the surface of surpassing those, and thats a hell of a challenge. as black men, we ARE the most imitated of all genders/races. everyone wants to be like us but no one wants to be us... and then they go and imitate us in the WORST possible way - further perpetuating the image that we are good for nothing but trouble, a cheap laugh, and manual labor. there are some of us that are trying to excel in life, but there are others that make it even harder for us to shake that stigma, so we have to work EVEN harder, often busting our **** to be told it wasnt good enough. im an educated, clean cut brotha myself, but i still see myself getting followed in stores and at times confronted by security for just minding my own business. not to say that black women dont have struggles, but unless youve been thru some traumatic stuff, i doubt very much you can liken the black woman's experience to that of the black male... all issues concerning female anatomy (pregnancy,periods, cramps,etc. )aside.MissJazzyAKA wrote:As black women, we have lived the struggle of the black man. But you guys don't realize and have not lived ours...nuff said
...i think out in the world concerning jobs and education...or even excelling in life...black men do have a hard time...Black Women have come so far that we kind of surpassed our Black Men...gettin better jobs and better respect out in the Job and Education fields...but i think thats also very much due to the fact that there are many black men who RUIN it for good Black men and their recovery is much harder for them as it would be for us....HOWEVER...considering the amount of things and crap black women must go through...pregnancy, periods, or things concerning our bodies....also television...the media...the image they created for women....it is also HARD for us...but its hard in a differect aspect...I do agree that black men are the most imitated which leads to stereotypes and further hardships....
but who hasnt had it hard?? there are people outside the united states that face WAY more than we do....
count ur blessingsMissJazzyAKA wrote:I hate to curse...NO, really i do. But did either of you read what i typed?!?!?!?!? Sh*t...The proof is in the damn puddin' or will you continue to ignore that too?? I'm not talking about your life or what you've been through!!! ... I want everyone in this damn thread to take a step back and think about women and how we are viewed/treated. Then tell me why we are forced to defend ourselves. Can anybody answer that? where the f*ck are our 'brothas' when we are being disrespected or hit?? Why aren't we being protected?? Once again, where the f*ck are you? Hiding behind something i suppose. With all that being said...if you want to be known as a leader, then lead. Since, yall MF's like to bring up roles, how can you call yourself a real man and can't protect the women in your own community. Okay, i'm done ranting. Take your thread back!
Blutifully Human wrote:And i don't think it's a matter of making a competition out of struggles. It's just simply discussing the issues. I'm with Jazzy, u have to at least acknowledge it. I think saying "it doesn't matter. We all have struggles" is a blatant slap in the face & a way of downgrading/ignoring what someone else goes thru. If u don't know (or care) that a problem is there, how can u then go about fixing it?