Members of a neo-**** group plan an Oct. 15 march through a North Toledo neighborhood to challenge two local black gangs there and to prevent the "victimization of whites by blacks," a spokesman for the group said yesterday.
Members of the National Socialist Movement's Toledo-area unit are planning the march in response to crimes and threats allegedly committed against whites by the Dexter [Street] Boyz and Stickney 33 gangs, said Bill White, a national spokesman for the group and leader of its Roanoke, Va., unit. He said a few dozen members of what the movement claims is the largest socialist group in the United States are expected.
Mr. White said members plan to wear their uniforms of brown shirts, black pants, and red swastika armbands.
"We will be directed to events in that [North Toledo] neighborhood and Toledo's black crime problem in general," Mr. White said. "We want to let white people know that other white people are defending them ... "
Police Chief Mike Navarre and other city officials, who learned of the event yesterday, are re-searching the group and planning for its arrival.
"Our job is to protect these protesters," the chief said. "We'll be prepared to do that."
Lucas County Sheriff James Telb has offered to assist city police with additional law enforcement support.
Mayor Jack Ford said officials are not going to allow groups to "spread hate and unrest in our city."
He said police will maintain control at the march and address any acts of civil disobedience.
The best way for the general public to respond to the movement's presence that day is to ignore it, Mayor Ford said. Carty Finkbeiner, former strong mayor who is challenging Mr. Ford on the Nov. 8 ballot, did not return calls seeking comment.
Mayor Ford said he plans to meet formally and informally with neighbors in the neighborhood before the march.
He said he is appealing to adults, ministers, and community leaders to educate the youth in the neighborhood about the harmful effects of taking up the movement's challenge and to keep the groups from clashing.
Chief Navarre said the group will have to apply for a parade permit if it wants to close a street. He said the marchers may not walk down the street and obstruct the free passage of pedestrians or vehicles, but they may walk on the sidewalk.
Mr. White said the movement is not asking for special accommodations - including police protection - or to close down streets. If city officials try to ban the march, he said the group will take them to court.
Police said the problem in North Toledo apparently began over a dispute between Bronson Avenue resident Thomas Szych, who is white, and his neighbor, who is black, about a fence.
Mr. Szych was named in the socialist movement's press release because of his problems with gang members. Mr. Szych received a threatening flyer that indicated it was from the Dexter gang and he said he has had vandalism to his property.
Chief Navarre said Mr. Szych, his brother, and his father have made many complaints and reports about gang activity in the neighborhood. Officials aren't receiving complaints and reports from other residents, he said.
Mr. Szych said the police response to his complaints has been poor. Chief Navarre said police have devoted a large amount of resources to Mr. Szych's concerns.
"The officers following up on the complaints find them to be exaggerated," the chief said.
Mr. Ford said Mr. Szych's father made derogatory comments about two African-American officers, describing them as "gorillas with guns."
Mr. Szych, who bought a handgun for protection but had it taken for safekeeping by police after he allegedly waved it at youths, said he is not a part of the socialist movement and did not ask for the group's help.
Mr. White confirmed other local residents contacted the group, but would not identify them.
"I'm not against what they're doing," Mr. Szych said, "but I think what they're doing will create more havoc for the residents in the neighborhood."
WilliAnn Moore, president of the Toledo Branch of the NAACP, said she doesn't believe the socialist group is sincere about solving gang problems in Toledo. "It's sounds like they are looking for trouble," she said.
Ms. Moore said the NAACP is urging black youths to not even dignify the group's event.
"I have already talked with some of the members of the religious community and the regional director of the Ohio Civil Rights Commission and we will be doing something proactive so this doesn't turn into some kind of race war," she said.
Chief Navarre said authorities will work with the FBI and other officials to gather information about the socialist group and its activities. The group has held marches, rallies, and events in Valley Forge, Pa., Lincoln, Neb., and Yorktown, Va.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051006/NEWS16/510060396/-1/NEWS
**** March In Toledo?
Mmebers of the National Socialist Movement say they'll put on their brown shirts and swastikas and march through a North Toledo neighborhood on October 15, to demonstrate against what they call black-on-white crime committed by two local gangs. Police Chief Mike Navarre says they'll investigate the group and the threat, but there's nothing they can do if marchers stay on sidewalks and don't block streets. Terry Glazer with the Lagrange Development Corp. says he hopes the event will come and go without receiving much attention, and while all neighborhoods have its problems, racial tensions are not running high in North Toledo as the **** group claims.
http://www.wspd.com/cc-common/local_news_common.html?ID=20051005122614&feed=local
not really. instead, the idiots chose to pelt the cops, who are allowed to **** and arrest them. :???: real clever...
i know alot of folk are calling these cats (blacks) assclowns, but i just guess these cats were upset about this not only happening in thier city, but in thier part of town and they wanted the entire country to know that they were **** off...so they broke sh!t.
hmm...so why is everybody including bill orielly and those other cats that i don't listen to anymore all attacking the black cats instead of the nazis? the nazis disturbed the peace by provoking these cats...
so what black are suppose to bend over and take it like we did back in the 20s? i say, everytime the **** pulls some sh!t like this, we should break sh!t...then maybe local govts. will repsond by banning organized hate protest the same way the govt bans me from getting a group together and screaming, "I want to shoot up my school, a walmart, and then **** president bush".
hmm....one of those i actually want to do...just kidding...
*peeks around shoulder for FBI*
OH BY THE WAY:
why is the media automatically assuming that the people who responded to these crackers were gang members??? the just look like people of the community to me....why is it that everytime a **** sees 5 boogies in jacksets, he's automatically like a krpt or soemthing? seriously, look at those cats on TV they're like 30s-40s...they don't look like gang members...more like what i call "people of the community" and i say these cats have the right to be outraged because they were provoked and i don't appreciate the white media taking the side of the nazis...
never thought i'd say this
but i agree with u
but u know the racist and biased white media is gonna make a HUGE issue and make the Blacks look like they were wrong and crazy
while the **** terrorits are looking like angels
**** outta here
**** members deserve a brick to the head
the nazis disturbed the peace by provoking these cats
Uhhh no.
P-E-A-C-E-F-U-L P-R-O-T-E-S-T.
so i guess i should hold a WE WANT TO MURDER GEORGE W. BUSH ON TUESDAY rally right in front of the white house huh?
P-E-A-C-E-F-U-L P-R-O-T-E-S-T.
and we all know what the consequences of me holding that rally would be...even if i did have a permit.
the nazis disturbed the peace by provoking these cats
Uhhh no.
P-E-A-C-E-F-U-L P-R-O-T-E-S-T.
so i guess i should hold a WE WANT TO MURDER GEORGE W. BUSH ON TUESDAY rally right in front of the white house huh?
P-E-A-C-E-F-U-L P-R-O-T-E-S-T.
and we all know what the consequences of me holding that rally would be...even if i did have a permit.
No thats different because that would be unlawful under the pretense of conspiracy(i think) or murdurous intent. The **** did their rally in a black part of town on purpose. They were trying to "peacefully" say that blacks are the cause of **** and murder in the country and by going INTO a black town to do their rally they were only proving their point when they were actually attacked by black folks. Whether "we" like it or not, they actually have a constitutional right to protest or whatever however, i believe that they should just be disbanded because their whole message is hatred towards minorities.
the nazis disturbed the peace by provoking these cats
Uhhh no.
P-E-A-C-E-F-U-L P-R-O-T-E-S-T.
so i guess i should hold a WE WANT TO MURDER GEORGE W. BUSH ON TUESDAY rally right in front of the white house huh?
P-E-A-C-E-F-U-L P-R-O-T-E-S-T.
and we all know what the consequences of me holding that rally would be...even if i did have a permit.
No thats different because that would be unlawful under the pretense of conspiracy(i think) or murdurous intent. The **** did their rally in a black part of town on purpose. They were trying to "peacefully" say that blacks are the cause of **** and murder in the country and by going INTO a black town to do their rally they were only proving their point when they were actually attacked by black folks. Whether "we" like it or not, they actually have a constitutional right to protest or whatever however, i believe that they should just be disbanded because their whole message is hatred towards minorities.
Thank you for this post. I wish people would read before they presume they actually know what the f**k is going on.
i say they were yelling fire in a crouded theatre....
black people ain't gonna PEACEFULLY take that sh!t like it's 1920-something and they knew it....they provoked them.
i'm done.
i say they were yelling fire in a crouded theatre....
black people ain't gonna PEACEFULLY take that sh!t like it's 1920-something and they knew it....they provoked them.
i'm done.
Except yelling fire in a theatre is illegal.
So, when are you going to get smart? It doesn't matter if it was provoked, as long as they didn't break any laws. I don't care whether you, I or anyone else agrees with their actions.
They are still illegal. You must not understand the judicial system, or anything for that matter.
i say they were yelling fire in a crouded theatre....
black people ain't gonna PEACEFULLY take that sh!t like it's 1920-something and they knew it....they provoked them.
i'm done.
Except yelling fire in a theatre is illegal.
So, when are you going to get smart? It doesn't matter if it was provoked, as long as they didn't break any laws. I don't care whether you, I or anyone else agrees with their actions.
They are still illegal. You must not understand the judicial system, or anything for that matter.
another **** cuddling the balls of the neo nazis... :???:
cuddle fish.
i'm not saying what the did was illegal and they don't have the right to say what they want or to believe what they want... for them to be permitted to do it there, that's what i disagree with.
AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY knows that the nazis weren't breaking any laws in their actions and that they were just excercising thier right to free speech...this does not need to be explained....what pisses me off is that alot of crackers (many cats in talk radio) out there are thinking that they are "schooling up" by bringing this up...WE ALL KNOW THAT! it's not like anybody's like "huh, they actually are withen the law by doing this?" WE KNOW THAT ALREADY!
i'm **** that they were given protection by the toledo police dept to protest in a black neighborhood, and then all you crackers are backing these cats and going on that "it's free speech" kick...
i know it is, but they're still in the wrong....and even though everything they did was legal, they still provoked that community...
speaking of those cats, by destroying that nieghborhood, the balcks were trying to make several statements...they were upset about what took place (obviously) and that it ocurred in theier neighborhood, and they wanted the govt, & media to know that they were upset about it...
they were saying this is what happens when you allow this to happpen...
i think the govt shouldn't allow demonstartiosn like this if there's a chance that it could incite **** like the crap that occured in toledo...
it should go under that whole "fire in a crowded theatre" clause...
*bloop bloop bloop*
cuddle cuddle cuddle
AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY knows that the nazis weren't breaking any laws in their actions
Right. And the opponents were.
End of discussion.
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i'm **** that they were given protection by the toledo police dept to protest in a black neighborhood, and then all you crackers are backing these cats and going on that "it's free speech" kick...
Be **** all you want. Fact is law is law. Blacks can protest in Beverly Hills, racist Whites can protest in a Black Community.
Maybe we should take away the rights of those who protest George Bush on the front lawn of the White House. You don't think too hard about what you propose.
