Is God all good? - HBCU CONNECT

smc112 from Laguana Hills, CA · Feb 2008

#35 Reply

i*heart*pie wrote:
Well, I don't understand why the female can't make decisions for herself. If you're running a household with me, run it WITH me, not for me. This isn't the 1950's, it's 2007. And now that I'm on it, EXACTLY WHO said that order can't come from an egalitarian family system? That's serious bs and an insult to all those who come from households like that. Oh, and before I forget...why again can't the female be the head?

You didn't understand anything that Sister Tamara said, and you are repeating the same questions. When people get married they become one flesh. Jesus gave commands that a man should honor and love his wife as Jesus loved the church, and the wife should honor her husband. Being submissive to your husband, doesn't mean that a man can run all over his wife and treat her disrespectful. Being submissive means, for a woman to trust that her husband hears clearly from the Lord, to make sound decisions within their marriage. A woman is there to complement her husband, and he should listen to advice from his wife. She is his other half. The problem comes in when the husband doesn't hear from the Lord, and that is why it is so important to marry a saved individual who is obedient to God. If a person isn't saved, they won't understand anything about marriage. God is the creator of marriage, and you can't have a successful one, if you put him out of the equation. Real love is when a woman figures out how she can be beneficial to her potential mate. (This is what a single woman should be thinking before she gets married.) A single woman should think, "How can I complete this man, and how would I be beneficial to him? What can I bring to the table?" A woman is created to be a helper for her husband. That is why God created Eve, if you go back and read Genesis 2:18. God said, "It isn't good for the man, Adam, to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him." This is all there in Genesis. People can argue all day about what they won't believe out of the Bible. It will make your life, a whole lot, easier if you just accept the word of God as truth. If the Bible says it, that settles it. His word should put a end to all arguing because his word is the final authority.

smc112 from Laguana Hills, CA · Feb 2008

#36 Reply

i*heart*pie wrote:
Wow. I just like, had a serious case of hives, you see, because I am allergic to bullshyt in such an egregious amount. First off, let me give you the defintion of the very word submit. sub�mit /səbˈmɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[suhb-mit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -mit�ted, -mit�ting. –verb (used with object) 1.to give over or yield to the power or authority of another (often used reflexively). (Courtesy of Random House unabridged dictionary.) That sounds just like giving complete power and will over to an individual, NOT like trusting that what they are attempting to do is God's Will. Or maybe it is for Christians. Sad. Maybe you should just call it for what it is and not just sugar coat unnecessary complacency. Oh, and you mentioned marriage. Yes, God created marriage huh? Well. Guess what, home skillet? THIS IS AMERICA. Where church and state are separated. You're thumping the pages out of that Bible over there as if this is some kind of theocracy of sorts. Or that other religions like Buddhism and Hinduism are non-existent. Nope. Untrue. Stop living in Disneyland. Marriage is a union between two loving people. That's all. If it was really sanctified by God then, I wouldn't be able to get hitched in Vegas for just two hundred bucks. Or maybe that's just how it is...sanctified and CHEAP. Don't tell me what REAL LOVE is, especially when you're doing it from an theological viewpoint, not a humanistic one. Because the last time I CHECKED, someone who loved me, didn't expect me to hand over my free will, in order to love them back. F.Y.I., as a single woman, the LAST thing I'm thinking about is how to make a man happy when we're married. He's already happy, damn it! He has practical control over my paycheck, the way others view me, and my reproductive organs. I MAKE MYSELF HAPPY. IT'S MY LIFE. That's how I roll! Yeah, I'm a selfish mamacita, but guess what? I'm HAPPY too. Without your precious Bible! So you could keep it up the block with alla dat, home slice. You and Jesus don't got **** love, y'all don't be runnin' the streets together, so stop croppin' up J.C.'s name like you do. If you did, you wouldn't be spewin' half the bullcrap that you're sending my way. He knows it is what it is. And He's cool as the other side of the pillow with it. So cut the crap and stop knockin' my faith. 'Cause if you didn't know you was doin' that before, you do now. Damn!

What in the world are you talking about? (You confused me with the tirade of nonsense). Okay, on a serious tip I'm going to leave you and prettyboi to your own devices. This is pretty much a waste of time to give any advice or wisdom to people who aren't saved. In order for you to understand the things of God or the Bible, you have to be saved. The Bible isn't written for a bunch of unsaved folks, it was written for God's people. Unsaved people will never understand the word because it is hidden from them. The Holy Spirit gives revelation of God's word, but you wouldn't know him because he is also hidden from unsaved people or the world. Yeah, all of this stuff that I'm saying and other Christian's are saying (on this thread), you will never understand, until you are saved. I don't have to prove anything to you, about Jesus, because I know he exists and he has done so much for me. I believe in the Trinity: God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I also believe EVERYTHING in the word of God! I thank God for blessing me, and he will continue to bless me because I didn't reject him or his Son. My children and their generation will be blessed because I chose not to reject God. So you can go on and on with all your theories that will never mount up to anything in the end. As I said before, God's word is the final authority. When you stand before God on judgment day, his word will still have the final authority, and you will be judged by it whether you choose to believe it or not. Also, it says that everyone will confess that Jesus is Lord on judgment day. So it is best for you to confess it now, instead of confessing it, before being thrown in the lake of fire. It is better to be on God's righteous side than to be on his judgment side. Jesus came into this world riding on a donkey, and he's coming back, in his second coming, riding on a horse for war! On that note, I'm not going to get into strife or any debates about God's word because, he told us in his word, we're not to do so. We will never agree because light doesn't have anything in common with darkness! Also, I don't have to defend God because he can defend himself! It's scary how you and prettyboi reference God. You are under a lot of grace because of Jesus, because back in the day God didn't show mercy to those who were blasphemes. Jesus's blood has still granted you mercy before God, even though you aren't willing to accept him. Jesus is still kind to those who aren't loving and disrespecful towards him. Alright, I'm finished with this thread.

prettyboi04 · Feb 2008

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smc112 wrote:
What in the world are you talking about? (You confused me with the tirade of nonsense). Okay, on a serious tip I'm going to leave you and prettyboi to your own devices. This is pretty much a waste of time to give any advice or wisdom to people who aren't saved. In order for you to understand the things of God or the Bible, you have to be saved. The Bible isn't written for a bunch of unsaved folks, it was written for God's people. Unsaved people will never understand the word because it is hidden from them. The Holy Spirit gives revelation of God's word, but you wouldn't know him because he is also hidden from unsaved people or the world. Yeah, all of this stuff that I'm saying and other Christian's are saying (on this thread), you will never understand, until you are saved. I don't have to prove anything to you, about Jesus, because I know he exists and he has done so much for me. I believe in the Trinity: God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I also believe EVERYTHING in the word of God! I thank God for blessing me, and he will continue to bless me because I didn't reject him or his Son. My children and their generation will be blessed because I chose not to reject God. So you can go on and on with all your theories that will never mount up to anything in the end. As I said before, God's word is the final authority. When you stand before God on judgment day, his word will still have the final authority, and you will be judged by it whether you choose to believe it or not. Also, it says that everyone will confess that Jesus is Lord on judgment day. So it is best for you to confess it now, instead of confessing it, before being thrown in the lake of fire. It is better to be on God's righteous side than to be on his judgment side. Jesus came into this world riding on a donkey, and he's coming back, in his second coming, riding on a horse for war! On that note, I'm not going to get into strife or any debates about God's word because, he told us in his word, we're not to do so. Also, I don't have to defend God because he can defend himself! It's scary how you and prettyboi reference God. You are under a lot of grace because of Jesus, because back in the day God didn't show mercy to those who were blasphemes. Jesus's blood has still granted you mercy before God, even though you aren't willing to accept him. Jesus is still kind to those who aren't loving and disrespecful towards him. Alright, I'm finished with this thread.

I understand your doctrines... I just think they're probably false. You bring up judgment day, for example...I see not one shred of evidence that judgment day is actually going to happen or that this "lake of fire" actually exists.

SuperFly · Feb 2008

#38 Reply

prettyboi04 wrote:
Accepting Jesus is not a free choice.

If accepting Jesus into your life were not a choice, wouldn't that mean you were a Christian? Just because some people try to make you feel like you don't have a choice doesn't mean that it is true. Matter of factly, even God Himself expects you except Him into your life voluntarily. Otherwise, that defeats the whole purpose of the institution. As far as the submissive thing... folks, if you go to the very next line in the Bible, it states that the man is supposed to sacrifice for his wife. He is to leave his own family to be with and tend to his wife. He is to hold her in high esteem and love selflessly. In addition, I have yet to hear anyone clarify that the husband is to be a SERVANT leader to his wife and family. It is very easy to look at one single verse out of the Bible and take it out of context. Look at the whole situation before drawing your conclusions.

smc112 from Laguana Hills, CA · Feb 2008

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SuperFly wrote:
As far as the submissive thing... folks, if you go to the very next line in the Bible, it states that the man is supposed to sacrifice for his wife. He is to leave his own family to be with and tend to his wife. He is to hold her in high esteem and love selflessly. In addition, I have yet to hear anyone clarify that the husband is to be a SERVANT leader to his wife and family. It is very easy to look at one single verse out of the Bible and take it out of context. Look at the whole situation before drawing your conclusions.

Actually, I did say that in a round about way. I said that the husband is supposed to honor his wife as Jesus loved the church. You know how deep that love runs. Jesus gave his life up for the church. I also said that the two become one flesh and the husband should also seek advice from his wife. Women tend to balance men out. God created Eve to be Adam's helper. So it is obvious that a man needs guidance from his wife. It is interesting that God said that it wasn't good for Adam to be alone. I just wonder what Adam was doing, that was strange, for God to say he needed a woman. Wub

Anyway, that's another topic. LOL It also says in Proverbs that if a man finds a wife he finds a "good" thing and obtains favor from the Lord. I'm not the type to just take one verse out of context because I know you understand the full meaning, when you read the whole verse. Thumbup

· Feb 2008

#40 Reply

smc112 wrote:
What in the world are you talking about? (You confused me with the tirade of nonsense). Okay, on a serious tip I'm going to leave you and prettyboi to your own devices. This is pretty much a waste of time to give any advice or wisdom to people who aren't saved. In order for you to understand the things of God or the Bible, you have to be saved. The Bible isn't written for a bunch of unsaved folks, it was written for God's people. Unsaved people will never understand the word because it is hidden from them. The Holy Spirit gives revelation of God's word, but you wouldn't know him because he is also hidden from unsaved people or the world. Yeah, all of this stuff that I'm saying and other Christian's are saying (on this thread), you will never understand, until you are saved. I don't have to prove anything to you, about Jesus, because I know he exists and he has done so much for me. I believe in the Trinity: God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I also believe EVERYTHING in the word of God! I thank God for blessing me, and he will continue to bless me because I didn't reject him or his Son. My children and their generation will be blessed because I chose not to reject God. So you can go on and on with all your theories that will never mount up to anything in the end. As I said before, God's word is the final authority. When you stand before God on judgment day, his word will still have the final authority, and you will be judged by it whether you choose to believe it or not. Also, it says that everyone will confess that Jesus is Lord on judgment day. So it is best for you to confess it now instead of confessing it before being thrown in the lake of fire. It is better to be on God's righteous side than to be on his judgment side. Jesus came into this world riding on a donkey, and he's coming back, in his second coming, riding on a horse for war! On that note, I'm not going to get into strife or any debates about God's word because, he told us in his word, we're not to do so. Also, I don't have to defend God because he can defend himself! It's scary how you and prettyboi reference God. You are under a lot of grace because of Jesus, because back in the day God didn't show mercy to those who were blasphemes. Jesus's blood has still granted you mercy before God, even though you aren't willing to accept him. Jesus is still kind to those who aren't loving and disrespecful towards him. Alright, I'm finished with this thread.

Interesting. It's funny how when I speak the real deal, you call it nonsense. And as for God having a zero tolerance policy on non-believers, I would swear that the Hindus beg to differ. Seeing as how their religion predates yours over 4,000 years. Where was God then? He certainly wasn't wiping out the populations in the Ganges. And what's this, the Bible is really JUST FOR for the saved? Are you stuck on stupid, or something? I thought that Jesus favored the unrighteous OVER the righteous. I mean, this dude kicked it with tax collectors, fishermen, and a ****. Not very righteous people. I also do believe he told Simon Peter and his buddies to cast down their nets and become 'fishers of men'...not hunters of them. In fact, from what I've read in the Bible--you sound like a straight up Pharisee. That little 'the Bible is for believers' tip you're on sounds a lot like what they would say. Just so we're clear, I didn't ask you to prove anything. In fact, my query was directed towards to Sister Tamara, thank you very much. You came out of the woodworks and started blasting me. I didn't ask you to get into any strife. Didn't ask you to start defending your belief in God. I didn't ask YOU a damned thing. So don't turn the tables on me. You have me defending MY faith which is on some next shyt, because I didn't impose it on anyone. I just asked a simple, objective question. In which, the response was certainly not objective, just more forced Christianity.

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