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WHY DO GREEKS HAZE? Posted on 12-16-2005

tdx5000
oakland, CA
WHY DO GREEKS HAZE? i have been in college for 2.5 years now and i still can't figure it out...but then i'm not greek. I've got answers from some greeks saying that going through the process makes you stronger, but is it really neccisary? greeks, please answer this.....I DONT.......UNDERSTAND? :???:
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replied on 12-19-2005 05:28PM [Reply]
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Bigd1611 wrote:
...since 1919 when its founders incorporated secrets into the organization. That's what was meant (as I know you already knew) by the term "secret society."
Your right I do know. I know that is still incorrect. What you just described is a Society with Secrets. Not a Secret Society. If KKPsi were a secret society than the Society at large would have no knowledge of it.
Again I ask, who are you? What org are you apart of? Better yet, what do you know about the inner workings of KKPsi? Since Psi isn't a secret society I guess you could tell me EVERYTHING about KKPsi right? Please don't try to tell me what MY or anyone elses org is.
1) I doubt you really care who I am. 2) Since I am not KKPSI and I don't answer to you so, next. 3) Re-read my statement 19 times. I never I knew the inner workings of "Your :lol: " organization. 4) Saying please is nice but nope. I won't comply to that. Now is this where you and others start claiming I'm a GDI and get on the kick about what I can and can't comment on? If so, don't waste your breath.
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Soul D-Psi-ple from Mount Rainier, MD replied on 12-19-2005 06:15PM [Reply]

desertswarm19 wrote:
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Bigd1611 wrote:
...since 1919 when its founders incorporated secrets into the organization. That's what was meant (as I know you already knew) by the term "secret society."
Your right I do know. I know that is still incorrect. What you just described is a Society with Secrets. Not a Secret Society. If KKPsi were a secret society than the Society at large would have no knowledge of it.
Again I ask, who are you? What org are you apart of? Better yet, what do you know about the inner workings of KKPsi? Since Psi isn't a secret society I guess you could tell me EVERYTHING about KKPsi right? Please don't try to tell me what MY or anyone elses org is.
1) I doubt you really care who I am. Correct. I really could careless about who you are. 2) Since I am not KKPSI and I don't answer to you so, next. I never said you had to answer to me. 3) Re-read my statement 19 times. I never I knew the inner workings of "Your :lol: " organization. Then stop acting as is if you know then. 4) Saying please is nice but nope. I won't comply to that. Now is this where you and others start claiming I'm a GDI and get on the kick about what I can and can't comment on? If so, don't waste your breath. Yes you are in fact a random **** GDI. Unless you can freely speak such BS to me in person, then yes I will tell you to shut the hell up and keep ya comments to yourself.
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replied on 12-19-2005 06:45PM [Reply]
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Bigd1611 wrote:
...since 1919 when its founders incorporated secrets into the organization. That's what was meant (as I know you already knew) by the term "secret society."
Your right I do know. I know that is still incorrect. What you just described is a Society with Secrets. Not a Secret Society. If KKPsi were a secret society than the Society at large would have no knowledge of it.
Again I ask, who are you? What org are you apart of? Better yet, what do you know about the inner workings of KKPsi? Since Psi isn't a secret society I guess you could tell me EVERYTHING about KKPsi right? Please don't try to tell me what MY or anyone elses org is.
1) I doubt you really care who I am. Correct. I really could careless about who you are. 2) Since I am not KKPSI and I don't answer to you so, next. I never said you had to answer to me. 3) Re-read my statement 19 times. I never I knew the inner workings of "Your :lol: " organization. Then stop acting as is if you know then. 4) Saying please is nice but nope. I won't comply to that. Now is this where you and others start claiming I'm a GDI and get on the kick about what I can and can't comment on? If so, don't waste your breath. Yes you are in fact a random **** GDI. Unless you can freely speak such BS to me in person, then yes I will tell you to shut the hell up and keep ya comments to yourself.
You know I came at you with respect little boy but since you want to take it there so be. 1) When I pledged (Spring 92)(I have Friends in many places) Your young **** was probably still in diapers. When I became a Mason (Spring 95) You were just getting off your moms ****. When I became a Nasty Noble (Summer 98) You just got one hair on you lil nuts and was dealing with acne. 2) Now that you had a hx lesson, here is another lesson for. I don't give a damn what betty cocker bull ****you tell yourself or what has been drummed into you by your pros. Rather than understanding the fact that that Secret Society stuff that you and that AKA spewed was bull ****you wanna get buck. Well, buck your tail to a book and read before you type or speak. 3) You and others **** me with the GDI comment but believe what you want. But understand this. I can and will comment on anything I see fit wether I was greek or not. Can you stop me nope. So miss me with the snide remarks and act tough with someone else. I am not impressed. But PLEASE believe that anything I type I can say to your Face. And guess what? You still couldn't and wouldn't do a damned thing. So, save the tough typing little boy. Your really in over your head.
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replied on 12-19-2005 07:38PM [Reply]
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Bigd1611 wrote:
...since 1919 when its founders incorporated secrets into the organization. That's what was meant (as I know you already knew) by the term "secret society."
Your right I do know. I know that is still incorrect. What you just described is a Society with Secrets. Not a Secret Society. If KKPsi were a secret society than the Society at large would have no knowledge of it.
Again I ask, who are you? What org are you apart of? Better yet, what do you know about the inner workings of KKPsi? Since Psi isn't a secret society I guess you could tell me EVERYTHING about KKPsi right? Please don't try to tell me what MY or anyone elses org is.
1) I doubt you really care who I am. Correct. I really could careless about who you are. 2) Since I am not KKPSI and I don't answer to you so, next. I never said you had to answer to me. 3) Re-read my statement 19 times. I never I knew the inner workings of "Your :lol: " organization. Then stop acting as is if you know then. 4) Saying please is nice but nope. I won't comply to that. Now is this where you and others start claiming I'm a GDI and get on the kick about what I can and can't comment on? If so, don't waste your breath. Yes you are in fact a random **** GDI. Unless you can freely speak such BS to me in person, then yes I will tell you to shut the hell up and keep ya comments to yourself.
You know I came at you with respect little boy but since you want to take it there so be. 1) When I pledged (Spring 92)(I have Friends in many places) Your young **** was probably still in diapers. When I became a Mason (Spring 95) You were just getting off your moms ****. When I became a Nasty Noble (Summer 98) You just got one hair on you lil nuts and was dealing with acne. When you pledged what? I give MY alumni and old heads the respect they deserve. I don't know you. 2) Now that you had a hx lesson, here is another lesson for. I don't give a damn what betty cocker bull ****you tell yourself or what has been drummed into you by your pros. Rather than understanding the fact that that Secret Society stuff that you and that AKA spewed was bull ****you wanna get buck. Well, buck your tail to a book and read before you type or speak. I haven't even began to get buck. You spoke about my org like you know whats really good. Am I NOT gonna respond back? Are you serious? 3) You and others **** me with the GDI comment but believe what you want. But understand this. I can and will comment on anything I see fit wether I was greek or not. Can you stop me nope. So miss me with the snide remarks and act tough with someone else. I am not impressed. But PLEASE believe that anything I type I can say to your Face. And guess what? You still couldn't and wouldn't do a damned thing. So, save the tough typing little boy. Your really in over your head.
You come in here acting as if you're "King Sh*t". I'm sorry, but I'm would like to know where this attitude comes from. If you felt disrespected because I told you to shut the hell up when speaking off-base about my frat, then oh well. I'd expect you to tell me the same thing if I came at you acting as if I knew about Masons. Tell me how in over my head I am. I will say what I please to whom I please, just as you have. My voice has no boundaries. I'm done arguing with you. Hit me up witha PM for further comments If you will.
Well since we want to be descriptive I don't have to play King Shyt. I am confident in who and what I am. What does distress me is when I see young bucks like you and others play the holier than thou role because of some letters. Knowing full well that society at large doesn't give a damn about blacks, let alone their greek letter membership. But the funny thing is that in most circles I run in, KKPsi members aren't even thought of as "Greek". Or should I say "Black Greek" Did I feel disrespected nope. Do I think you were rude and ignorant for no reason, yes? How you assumed from a few words I typed that I knew about "Your Organization" is beyond me. And instead of intelligent discourse between a brother (meaning race) who is almost finished with his doctorate and a young brother working on a bachelors you want to mud sling? Is that what you learned during your process? Do not assume what I would tell you about any org I'm affiliated with. I am not so thin skinned as to get riled up by any questions posed to me as some of you folks are. Nor do I suffer from a lack of sense of self and have to validate my existence through an organization or by belittling those who seek membership or ask questions. Please believe that I have no issue with you voicing your opinion at all but I don't take kindly to covert threats or overt ignorance. Especially, from someone just starting his young adult life. But I do agree with one thing you said. Anything else that I have to type to you will be via PM. Last comment. You mentioned that what the young AKA wrote was true regarding the percieved lack of respect of Black Greek Letter Organizations. Well, I disagree. No org needs an individual member to defend it. All are great in their own right. Rather than defending with ignorant words. Defend by your actions. Be a beacon of light or that true example of what an XYZ is all about rather than talking about it.
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tdx5000 from oakland, CA replied on 12-19-2005 08:22PM [Reply]

desertswarm19 wrote:
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Soul D-Psi-ple wrote:
desertswarm19 wrote:
Bigd1611 wrote:
...since 1919 when its founders incorporated secrets into the organization. That's what was meant (as I know you already knew) by the term "secret society."
Your right I do know. I know that is still incorrect. What you just described is a Society with Secrets. Not a Secret Society. If KKPsi were a secret society than the Society at large would have no knowledge of it.
Again I ask, who are you? What org are you apart of? Better yet, what do you know about the inner workings of KKPsi? Since Psi isn't a secret society I guess you could tell me EVERYTHING about KKPsi right? Please don't try to tell me what MY or anyone elses org is.
1) I doubt you really care who I am. Correct. I really could careless about who you are. 2) Since I am not KKPSI and I don't answer to you so, next. I never said you had to answer to me. 3) Re-read my statement 19 times. I never I knew the inner workings of "Your :lol: " organization. Then stop acting as is if you know then. 4) Saying please is nice but nope. I won't comply to that. Now is this where you and others start claiming I'm a GDI and get on the kick about what I can and can't comment on? If so, don't waste your breath. Yes you are in fact a random **** GDI. Unless you can freely speak such BS to me in person, then yes I will tell you to shut the hell up and keep ya comments to yourself.
You know I came at you with respect little boy but since you want to take it there so be. 1) When I pledged (Spring 92)(I have Friends in many places) Your young **** was probably still in diapers. When I became a Mason (Spring 95) You were just getting off your moms ****. When I became a Nasty Noble (Summer 98) You just got one hair on you lil nuts and was dealing with acne. When you pledged what? I give MY alumni and old heads the respect they deserve. I don't know you. 2) Now that you had a hx lesson, here is another lesson for. I don't give a damn what betty cocker bull ****you tell yourself or what has been drummed into you by your pros. Rather than understanding the fact that that Secret Society stuff that you and that AKA spewed was bull ****you wanna get buck. Well, buck your tail to a book and read before you type or speak. I haven't even began to get buck. You spoke about my org like you know whats really good. Am I NOT gonna respond back? Are you serious? 3) You and others **** me with the GDI comment but believe what you want. But understand this. I can and will comment on anything I see fit wether I was greek or not. Can you stop me nope. So miss me with the snide remarks and act tough with someone else. I am not impressed. But PLEASE believe that anything I type I can say to your Face. And guess what? You still couldn't and wouldn't do a damned thing. So, save the tough typing little boy. Your really in over your head.
You come in here acting as if you're "King Sh*t". I'm sorry, but I'm would like to know where this attitude comes from. If you felt disrespected because I told you to shut the hell up when speaking off-base about my frat, then oh well. I'd expect you to tell me the same thing if I came at you acting as if I knew about Masons. Tell me how in over my head I am. I will say what I please to whom I please, just as you have. My voice has no boundaries. I'm done arguing with you. Hit me up witha PM for further comments If you will.
Well since we want to be descriptive I don't have to play King Shyt. I am confident in who and what I am. What does distress me is when I see young bucks like you and others play the holier than thou role because of some letters. Knowing full well that society at large doesn't give a damn about blacks, let alone their greek letter membership. But the funny thing is that in most circles I run in, KKPsi members aren't even thought of as "Greek". Or should I say "Black Greek" Did I feel disrespected nope. Do I think you were rude and ignorant for no reason, yes? How you assumed from a few words I typed that I knew about "Your Organization" is beyond me. And instead of intelligent discourse between a brother (meaning race) who is almost finished with his doctorate and a young brother working on a bachelors you want to mud sling? Is that what you learned during your process? Do not assume what I would tell you about any org I'm affiliated with. I am not so thin skinned as to get riled up by any questions posed to me as some of you folks are. Nor do I suffer from a lack of sense of self and have to validate my existence through an organization or by belittling those who seek membership or ask questions. Please believe that I have no issue with you voicing your opinion at all but I don't take kindly to covert threats or overt ignorance. Especially, from someone just starting his young adult life. But I do agree with one thing you said. Anything else that I have to type to you will be via PM. Last comment. You mentioned that what the young AKA wrote was true regarding the percieved lack of respect of Black Greek Letter Organizations. Well, I disagree. No org needs an individual member to defend it. All are great in their own right. Rather than defending with ignorant words. Defend by your actions. Be a beacon of light or that true example of what an XYZ is all about rather than talking about it.
=D> =D> =D> Nor do I suffer from a lack of sense of self and have to validate my existence through an organization or by belittling those who seek membership or ask questions. perfectly put.....i'm not a mason or greek but i think what she said makes sense..... but anyway, this is well off the topic of the original thread..which has been all but ****, but.....a very important and informative convo never the less.
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Soundcheck 1898 replied on 12-19-2005 09:46PM [Reply]
tdx5000 wrote:
perfectly put.....i'm not a mason or greek but i think what she said makes sense.....
No offense to anybody and this is random but that cracked me up for some reason lol.
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replied on 12-19-2005 09:50PM [Reply]
Soundcheck 1898 wrote:
tdx5000 wrote:
perfectly put.....i'm not a mason or greek but i think what she said makes sense.....
No offense to anybody and this is random but that cracked me up for some reason lol.
Your right, it is amusing that tdx thinks I'm a female. :lol:
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La replied on 12-19-2005 11:46PM [Reply]
Hey Everybody !!!! :smt039 I see not much has changed in here.... :grin:
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cupcake8503 replied on 12-19-2005 11:52PM [Reply]
F.A.T.A.L wrote:
Hey Everybody !!!! :smt039 I see not much has changed in here.... :grin:
Hey Girl! :smt039 How was your semester??
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La replied on 12-20-2005 12:00AM [Reply]
cupcake8503 wrote:
F.A.T.A.L wrote:
Hey Everybody !!!! :smt039 I see not much has changed in here.... :grin:
Hey Girl! :smt039 How was your semester??
very good. I just checked my grades...I got 3 Bs an A and a C...im happy overall. How was yours?
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