I know alot of people believe in the biblical character Jesus, but how about this. I was reading a book the other day and the author began to talk about the origins of Judaism and Christianity. Here is a summary of what he said.
The story of Jesus is a mythical story based on esoteric symbolism of the Sun God. Hence Jesus is the "Son of God". The crown of thorns that he wore on the cross is symbolic of the rays of Sun, and is also seen on the Statue of Liberty (which is another symbolic figure). The cross itself comes from the Egyptian Ankh, which represents life and light, the Sun.
The trinity Jesus-God-Holy Spirit parallels many other mythical stories such as Horus-Osiris-**** (Egypt). Similarities between Horus and Jesus?
Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. Horus was the truth and the life.
Both the Good Shephard
Both were the lamb
Both are identified with a cross
Both were baptised at 30
Jesus was child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, ****.
The birth of both are marked by a star
Both were the child teacher in the temple
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst
Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set (Egyptian god of darkness, hence sun-Set)
Jesus was said to be judge of the ****. This was also said about ****, Krishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-Kiun Bacchus, Zeus and others.
Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick, raising the ****. So did Krishna(Hindu), Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others.
Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others.
Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun, Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl (Mexican not mayan though) and far more.
Jesus will be born again. So will Krishna, Vishnu, Buddha, Quetzalcoatl and others.
The story of Jesus was created/recycled and used as a tool to enslave people's minds through a dictatorial religion, Christianity. This religion is not unique in any way.
The twelve disciples are symbolism for the twelves solar bodies (yes there are twelve) and twelve astrological signs. 12 is all over the place.
During Easter, the summer solstice, the sun begins to stay out shorter and shorter until its shortest length of time in December. Jesus was born on December 25th. It takes the Sun three days to recover from the winter solstice from December 21st/22nd to December 25th. He dies in March on Easer. Hence Jesus died and rose on the third day. The same length of time it took the Babylon Son of God, Tammuz to rise again.
Also March is during the astrological sign of Aries, the Ram or... the lamb.
Jesus is associated with the fish because that is when he was supposed to have been born. During the entering of the astrological house of Pisces not the sign. Astrological houses last somewhere around 2000+ years. We are now entering the house of Aquarious.
The Christian religious day is... SUNday.
The author then speaks about who the true authors of the New Testament are. Let me assure you they are not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul or any of these Biblical characters.
As a matter of fact there is no documentation of anybody by these names ever to have been in these places at this time outside of the Bible. There is nobody named Pontius Pilate except in the Bible.
There is no written history of anybody named Moses, King David, King Solomon or most of the Biblical characters you read about except in the Bible. These are characters aer more symbolism that I could get into.
I have no problem with anybody's religious beliefs I just think it's necessary to do the research before you make that comittment.
So did Jesus really live? Or is he a biblical character that has been created and so hyped up that the whole world accepts him as LORD without looking at background information. Jesus was a duplicate, myth, and he has been used to control the populations to this day. Have you ever thought about where these religions came from? and why is Bush claiming to be a Christian? And why have so many wars been started in the past because of religion? And why was there centuries of Dark Ages when knowledge was suppressed because of religion? And why were so many people slaughtered at the inquisition because of RELIGION? It's because religion is a tool, a quite effective one at that.
:roll: Research is pointless if the person is close minded.They will just be reading words and not understanding anything.
um...Isn't that the same way with the Bible?
Christians pick and choose what they want to believe in with the Bible.
this is so true...that is why there are so many different denominations within Christianity, because not all of us believe the same thing...
Yea, good point.
Like some christians dont believe women should preach and some do.We all dont agree on everything but I think its safe to we believe there is a GOD.
Like said above, the problem is that people have SO many interpretations of the BIBLE that it gets confusing=>so many religions... I believe that GOD will guide me how he sees fit.. I won't argue w/ people who don't believe in him.. I have my own questions, but I have faith that my belief won't be in vain..
For a long time, I thought that Christianity and Judaism and Islam were all the same.. but were different denominations (like United Methodist, Lutheran, AME).. I dunno.. it's hurting my head to think about all of this...:?
Its pointless to debate with those who are pagans or dont believe in Christ, or whatever, cause regardless of what you say..they are gonna believe what THEY BELIEVE...I can say everything to prove to them that Jesus is the Messiah, is real, and so on and so forth, but it wouldnt matter. These people are very built up in what they believe as is I am. Like there is NOTHING an atheist and/or Pagan to ever say to me that would ever make me even THINK that Jesus was a myth.
Let me first start off by saying...Religion (whatever yours maybe) is needed to help mankind get through their problems and worries...with that said....I took a world religions class last semester and all the things about Krishna, Confucius, Arjuna, and so on were taught and it was taught that they all inter-related...so it can't be said that one is real and the rest are false...what you also have to understand is that these different religions were evolved based on the problems of the people and the knowledge they had about the world at that time. So yes Christianity did arise from another religion and so did many others...but the whole thing with religion is FAITH...that's why religion is a belief...you must believe in whatever your religion teaches...it's not so much based on proof cause...who can prove JESUS raising from the ****...who can prove that because the Egyptians praised Krishna the sun rose everyday...NO ONE...so why argue about religion...believe what you believe...witness to unbelievers and believers alike...the TRUTH will always reign...
I love JESUS and GOD but i also know that there are others that may love MUHUMMAD or ALLAH or MARY....so we must remember that while you are tryin to show people the TRUTH if you offend them you're defeated from the start!!!
Its pointless to debate with those who are pagans or dont believe in Christ, or whatever, cause regardless of what you say..they are gonna believe what THEY BELIEVE...I can say everything to prove to them that Jesus is the Messiah, is real, and so on and so forth, but it wouldnt matter. These people are very built up in what they believe as is I am. Like there is NOTHING an atheist and/or Pagan to ever say to me that would ever make me even THINK that Jesus was a myth.
I'm not trying to debate just exchanging ideas. I started with ideas on Jesus' life and the facts behind it (which are very important to know, why believe in a farce?) and was attacked by people who wanted to defend their faith.
My mind is wide open. I have nothing against Jesus. If my research took me to a place where the only answer is Jesus then that is what I would believe, but it didn't. I'm not the only one.
My mind is wide open. You said NOTHING will make you change your mind. Is your mind therefore made up, closed?
My mind is wide open. If anybody can give me a solid reason for why they believe in Jesus I will definitely listen, and will consider it with every inch of my mind and soul. The thing is EVERY Christian's reasons are waay to similar (I want to say identical), and it is because of what has been put there.
(Jesus died for you....The only salvation is through Jesus.... He is love and everything good....He hears you when you call and answers your prayers....Jesus works in your life) I mean if you want to believe that you have no power and he has all the power that's fine but why give your power away.
My mind is wide open. I'm listening to every thing that the Christian's have said and it's all good, but there is more than just Jesus.
My mind is wide open. But to get to my heart it has to please my soul.
Its pointless to debate with those who are pagans or dont believe in Christ, or whatever, cause regardless of what you say..they are gonna believe what THEY BELIEVE...I can say everything to prove to them that Jesus is the Messiah, is real, and so on and so forth, but it wouldnt matter. These people are very built up in what they believe as is I am. Like there is NOTHING an atheist and/or Pagan to ever say to me that would ever make me even THINK that Jesus was a myth.
My mind is wide open. You said NOTHING will make you change your mind. Is your mind therefore made up, closed?
Well, you hit that one right on the head...My mind is very CLOSED when it regards what I believe about my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...I am open minded to different interprations of biblical scriptures and events in the Bible, but I am very close minded to anyone telling me that Jesus is a myth. I know in my heart that that is not tru.
