why? I don't agree with it at all. personally I think we should be exempt from it. let the senators sons fight on the frontline. what are your thoughts?
serpent king i noticed you are going into the air force. why not college?
military folks, i'd like to ask a couple questions, mostly for my own curiosity but also cause i'm working on a play with some folks and we're trying to keep it from being hella bohemian.
what makes war agreeable? (not the military, the actual idea of combat and murder)
is it possible for someone to disagree with the instituition of war while supporting troops?
War is agreeable i believe in several instances (tho i'm tired and not articulate so i'll just make a brief n probably sloppy statement)
my opinion n short statements
-The world is not ideal and thus there are times where a discreprancy cannot be rectified due to principle or racial humanitarian or religious ideals
-when these blocks in diplomacy arise the progression toward war i feel is imminent
-i feel that war is imminent in these situation b/c of Social Contracts (Rousseau right....idk its late n thatz hs and middle school)
- Instance of social contract 2 war I - Revolution...when the majority is opressed by the minority then the majority have a right to overturn that bureacracy
- instance of social contract 2 - Global acknowledgement of poor humanitarinism - again a minority with power ignoring both its ppl and the opinion of ppl at large globally that find a way 2 thwart or survive embargo and diplomacy must be disciplined with war IMO
umm mind scattered thinkin...
basically war is agreeable 2 me when it is the most economical form of persuasion left
a large part of war's impact in the world now isn't even actual fighting...forward prescence and brinkmanship are simply deterrents that often dont go 2 war but are effective methods of diplomacy similar 2 taking off a belt in public
still scattered thoughts i apologize cant focus
war is like beatings 2 me really
its only used as a last resort
threats of beatings are usually effective enough
and ppl frown on it but in the end should realize that for the stubborn it is necessary
(cuz no one goes 2 war with a reasonable country(cept abusive parents like germany and napoleon but wuteva lol)...even wars that arent necessary are against countries wit a history of doin wrong and still deserved punishment just not a stern punishment
IRAQ SHOULD OF JUST LOST ITS CELL PHONE PRIVELEDGES!
well with that its a qtr til 3 n i'm goin 2 sleep (i'll write something better 2morrow when i can think)
military folks, i'd like to ask a couple questions, mostly for my own curiosity but also cause i'm working on a play with some folks and we're trying to keep it from being hella bohemian.
what makes war agreeable? (not the military, the actual idea of combat and murder)
is it possible for someone to disagree with the instituition of war while supporting troops?[/quo
I agree that war is a necessary evil. Think about WWII. **** and Hirohito could not have been stopped merely with diplomacy.
It is certainly possible to support the troops and oppose the war. I am against this particular war in Iraq, yet I have the utmost respect for those fighting it.
I am in Air Force and I plan to enter the military after I graduate from Howard. The military isn't for everyone, but this country would be in sorry shape if there was no one to step up and defend it.
prettypoet8804 wrote:
military folks, i'd like to ask a couple questions, mostly for my own curiosity but also cause i'm working on a play with some folks and we're trying to keep it from being hella bohemian.
what makes war agreeable? (not the military, the actual idea of combat and murder)
is it possible for someone to disagree with the instituition of war while supporting troops?
War is agreeable i believe in several instances (tho i'm tired and not articulate so i'll just make a brief n probably sloppy statement)
my opinion n short statements
-The world is not ideal and thus there are times where a discreprancy cannot be rectified due to principle or racial humanitarian or religious ideals
-when these blocks in diplomacy arise the progression toward war i feel is imminent
-i feel that war is imminent in these situation b/c of Social Contracts (Rousseau right....idk its late n thatz hs and middle school)
- Instance of social contract 2 war I - Revolution...when the majority is opressed by the minority then the majority have a right to overturn that bureacracy
- instance of social contract 2 - Global acknowledgement of poor humanitarinism - again a minority with power ignoring both its l and the opinion of l at large globally that find a way 2 thwart or survive embargo and diplomacy must be disciplined with war IMO
umm mind scattered thinkin...
basically war is agreeable 2 me when it is the most economical form of persuasion left
a large part of war's impact in the world now isn't even actual fighting...forward prescence and brinkmanship are simply deterrents that often dont go 2 war but are effective methods of diplomacy similar 2 taking off a belt in public
still scattered thoughts i apologize cant focus
war is like beatings 2 me really
its only used as a last resort
threats of beatings are usually effective enough
and l frown on it but in the end should realize that for the stubborn it is necessary
(cuz no one goes 2 war with a reasonable country(cept abusive parents like germany and napoleon but wuteva lol)...even wars that arent necessary are against countries wit a history of doin wrong and still deserved punishment just not a stern punishment
IRAQ SHOULD OF JUST LOST ITS CELL PHONE PRIVELEDGES!
well with that its a qtr til 3 n i'm goin 2 sleep (i'll write something better 2morrow when i can think)
:lol: . I feel you though. I don't even think We really had to be over there like that, but like Thunderstruck said it's sadly about the ****. We could have pressured Saddam Hussein to relinquish power and go into exile, but our governmant had an agenda.
first...i'm feelin where boycharm is comin from. That's some good stuff....we should have just took the cell phones man! :x .
k, i will first say that i am not against war. I am a supporter of peace, however...let's be rational...we just don't live in a peaceful world. What i am against, is unjustifiable reasons to put lives in danger. So, one of the reasons why i was not in support of Bush is becuz i wasn't gun-ho for his reasonings. Not about me not loving this country or not being patriotic, but i'm not a fool. If the president makes a declaration that we smash our faces in with hammers, and i say no, does that make me unpatriotic? Well hell...if it does, i'll be that.
Now, as for Blacks in the army. Here's my stance. I do agree with Change and branded...but to a certain degree. Yes, we are Black and we aren't necessarily treated as we should in this country. However, we are still here nontheless. If an atomic **** fell down in my hometown, it isn't gonna just **** white people. It's going to **** my people as well. We aren't just fighting for white people when we are in war, we are fighting for our own as well. We live here freely. I don't agree with everything about our government, but i am here. If i was so anti-America, it wouldn't take that much effort to just move to Mexico or Canada. Anything that means sumthin to me is worth fighting for
somewhat cosigns...
I believe that the percentage of Blacks in the military should reflect the percent of blacks in other aspects of the work force... My magic number is 13 percent... give or take...
Not all people who enlist in the armed forces are there because they want to.. a lot of people have been lied to about the benefits versus the dangers (the college tuition program), a lot of people would rather be in the armed forces then living on the streets, and then there those who actually want to serve the country... I can't knock the people who are in the military, but at the same time, I don't see the point in parading around like I support military action... I might support the troops, but that is because I love the people who are fighting.. not necessarily what they have been told that they are fighting for... its sort of like you love the sinner but hate the sin (not saying that the military is an abomonation).
Not all people have that call in life... that doesn't downplay their role, nor does it downplay the role of others in society.. Naturally, some most die in order for the population to prosper... Just as some people could never fight in the military, some could never teach a class of 5 year olds... each person has their strengths and motivations... I just have problems when the deaths in society could have been avoided, or if they were for shaky reasons.
I am very unpatriotic... and I'll say that to the fullest... I do not celebrate July 4 (I go work in homeless shelters and psych wards with homeless/schizophrenic veterans), and my children will be given the option to celebrate or not, I can't stand the American flag, and I detest when people talk about what it stands for... In my eyes, it is a symbol of subliminal hypocrisy... the forefathers left Britain's rule because of persecution, but then 200+ years later, it is persecuting the very people that put their trust so blindly in it... I see so much blood on that flag that I get sick, but I mean... to each their own...
Do I think y'all are honorable for wanting to enlist? Hell Yeah... anytime that someone is willing to lay down their life for another, I am in awe...
However, am I going to agree with war/the idea of war/recruiting into the military? Hell No... you have your code of conduct that includes the military. I have mine, and I'm doin' just fine.
war
what is it good for?
absolutely NOTHING
i DON'T agree with invading and completely destorying a nation that did NOTHING to you
that's wrong
combat and murder is just that combat and MURDER
unnecessary **** unless you were hit first
you can't talk rationally with these military losers
they're brainwashed
and I'll bet VERY controlling, abusive, and straight up ODD
War is everything. It is not in man to want to surrender what is his to others; and it is not in man to not strive for more power and more control. And we are the odd ones?
Look at everyone who is calling you a **** in every other thread. The majority sure seems to be the odd ones out, don't they?
(i'll write something better 2morrow when i can think)
yooo your mental is FUKED up
a white conservative on a Black messageboard
