Religion is the **** of the masses--Karl Marx

78 replies · 28729 views · Started by i*heart*pie · Feb 2008

"Religion is the **** of the masses"--Karl Marx. My unfortunate Sociology professor mentioned it in a discussion during class. It got pretty heated. But after all the hubbub died down, it got me to thinking: does religion make us who we are, or is it the other way around? What do you think? (Even though I'm a Socialist and people say that's a step towards Communism, I still think Marx was just an emo before his time. This little adage further proves my point.:splat Smile

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smc112 from Laguana Hills, CA · Feb 2008

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prettyboi04 wrote:
And you used the word "sadistic." I don't derive pleasure from inflicting pain on others; you're totally confusing me with your god, who, according to your own precious and purportedly holy mythologies, creates people just to burn in hell. Often times I feel like "militant atheism" is just a reaction to militant christianity. Atheists don't have an obligation to "convert" people, or to "win souls." If Christians didn't go around behaving as if their religion was "the only true religion," or the "only source of truth," etc. other people, or at least I, wouldn't feel the need to defend myself and my ideologies.

Sadistic also means: ****. What I was referring to was all these crazy threads you are posting, such as ****. Anyway, I don't know where you get this ideology that God creates people to burn in hell (the place you don't believe in). Hell, was created for the devil and his angels. It just happened to be after the fall of Adam, that hell became a place also for those who choose not to receive Jesus. The wages of sin is death and someone has to pay the price, and Jesus paid it on the cross. If God wanted everyone to burn in hell, he wouldn't have ever sent his Son, Jesus, to save mankind. Oops.. I forgot you don't believe in Jesus. Also, atheists do go around trying to convert people to their beliefs. Atheists are quick to tell people that they don't believe in God, when no one even asks them. Christians don't go around spewing out their beliefs without someone asking them first, but Atheists are very quick to go around telling people that they don't believe in God. Like you have done on HBCU connect. No one asked you to question if God was real or good on a thread, but you spewed out your beliefs, first, and got mad at Christians because we wanted to defend our beliefs and our God. You started all of this, with your thread, talking about God. No one asked you to get on here talking about Jesus in a negative light. Now..you are trying to turn the tables and make it seem like the Christians are attacking you, and that you have to defend your ideologies. That is not so.

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· Feb 2008

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See, now I'm really upset, because I just called for the end of the this bull Cursing

. This right here, straight up disrespectful. To say that prettyboi04 was the one that started all of this is not only presumptuous, but it's **** wrong. I STARTED THIS THREAD ON MY OWN ACCORD. You would CLEARLY see that in the very first post I made. This has NOTHING to do with prettyboi04's Is God All Good?' thread. That one questions Christianity alone. This one, however, deals with ALL religion. My own included. Sorry to pop bubbles, but it ain't all about Christianity.There's other religions too, if you've forgotten. Furthermore, this thread is not a question of faith, it is a question of perspective. Even if it was, I have a right to question someone's faith, just as you have a right to tell me that I'm going to a hell filled with fire and brimstone simply because I am not Christian (which is, in fact, an attack on my religious beliefs). Or that, according to Christianity, women should be submissive to the man in the household. It doesn't stop for one and continues for the other. Both sides are given a playing field. Sorry, but that's just how free speech works. Get used to it. Glare

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Brother P from hardeeville, SC · Feb 2008

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prettyboi04 wrote:
Nice example of Christian presumptiveness. Burning in hell? Give me one shred of evidence that hell exists.

my first urinary tract infection was Hell pickin up tricks on the stroll was Hell the last gun altercation i was in 2000 was Hell Me and my wifes 6 HIV test was Hell My studio was in a dope house and that was Hell stayin in a **** hotel in south central 2 weeks was Hell wood , neck , and **** twisters while pledgin Q was Hell prettyboi i am sure you have some hell on earth stories to tell too but at 35 when i entered into the Kingdom of Heaven . i finally got the rest that I longed for and that i needed. Be safe out their my brother ........Brother Phil loves you for real hit me in the PM if you want to holla at the old man.

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smc112 from Laguana Hills, CA · Feb 2008

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i*heart*pie wrote:
See, now I'm really upset, because I just called for the end of the this bull. This right here, straight up disrespectful. To say that prettyboi04 was the one that started all of this is not only presumptuous, but it's **** wrong. I STARTED THIS THREAD ON MY OWN ACCORD. You would CLEARLY see that in the very first post I made. This has NOTHING to do with prettyboi04's Is God All Good?' thread. That one questions Christianity alone. This one, however, deals with ALL religion. My own included. Sorry to pop bubbles, but it ain't all about Christianity.There's other religions too, if you've forgotten. Furthermore, this thread is not a question of faith, it is a question of perspective. Even if it was, I have a right to question someone's faith, just as you have a right to tell me that I'm going to a hell filled with fire and brimstone simply because I am not Christian (which is, in fact, an attack on my religious beliefs). Or that, according to Christianity, women should be submissive to the man in the household. It doesn't stop for one and continues for the other. Both sides are given a playing field. Sorry, but that's just how free speech works. Get used to it.

Excuse me? It's interesting that the main two on HBCU connect that have a problem with Christianity, can't take the heat when someone stands up for their beliefs. It is obvious that it is not both sides given a playing field as you put it. The point I was trying to make, about prettyboi, was that he started the religious debate and then he turns it around and makes it like the Christians are enforcing their beliefs on people. Which isn't true. He started a very controversial thread, and then expected people to go along with his ideologies or not to say anything. So when Christians say something or defend their beliefs it is automatically assumed, by you two, that we are forcing our beliefs on you. We have a right, just as you said, to defend our beliefs, so you better get used to it. If you are bold enough to talk out against Jesus, you better believe that you have some Holy Ghost filled believers, on this board, that are bold enough to stand up for what they believe. So get used to that! Another thing... I have enough sense to know that you started this particular thread. Also, on this thread prettyboi was ranting that Christians were forcing our beliefs on him and that is why I said the things that I said. What I said was, if you don't want to hear people's religious beliefs, why start topics that are geared toward such. Like someone else said earlier, it is inevitable to start certain topics and expect people not to give their beliefs or opinions. What I said about prettyboi is true, because no one asked him if he believed in God or not. Yet, he comes on HBCU connect and starts a thread forcing his views on others, to prove the point, that Atheists are the main ones who always try to force what they believe on people. They do it way more than Christians.

Brother P from hardeeville, SC · Feb 2008

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Go do your research and you will see that the country of America has a rich Christian heritage. from the puritans and quakers to many of the colleges that started as a christian institutions. Now granted this was a native american or indian nation but when the easterners came in they brought the bible with them. Many of our laws and governments are based upon biblical priciples. The separation of church and state is to keep the state out of the church.......only in modern times have we now reversed it and are now taking religious practice such as prayer out of the government. Judgement is in the bible and we do not have to judge those who are not born again ...why because according to the bible that you are talking about you at this moment are already judged .....and that means according to that bible if Yahshua came at this moment or if you happened to die which i hope you do not ...your judgement is sure .... and that is hell according to the bible that you are talking about. so as for me i judge no one outside of my faith but i will present the good news in wisdom and in love. Thumbup1

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· Feb 2008

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Right. Moving on to a new topic: Can environment be a major factor in religions outside of Christianity Huh

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Brother P from hardeeville, SC · Feb 2008

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Religion is the **** of the masses--Karl Marx is the topic And if you dont feel like posting about Religion is the **** of the masses--Karl Marx then www.moveon .com nice meeting you. Eek

lol I believe that as more comes out about karl marx and his connection to the black anti christian community during the harlem renaissance eyes will begin to open and the people will begin to see the infuence that he has had on our culture in a America Thumbup

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· Feb 2008

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i*heart*pie wrote:
"Religion is the **** of the masses"--Karl Marx. My unfortunate Sociology professor mentioned it in a discussion during class. It got pretty heated. But after all the hubbub died down, it got me to thinking: does religion make us who we are, or is it the other way around? What do you think? (Even though I'm a Socialist and people say that's a step towards Communism, I still think Marx was just an emo before his time. This little adage further proves my point.:splat

Er. I think I know the topic of my own post. The Karl Marx adage was just an attention catcher. Now, seeing as how that was exhausted and clearly misunderstood, I decided to start a new topic. Now, are you gonna answer my new question, or are you going to continue to take my thread off topic?

Brother P from hardeeville, SC · Feb 2008

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okay you might be new to message boards...but you just hi -jacked your own thread...the proper way to do this is to start another thread. why because some one might not read all of the post especially if the thread is hot . So a new person to the thread could reply to something on page 5 and still be somewhat within the range of the thread. now it is true a topic may become exhausted and clearly misunderstood but that is your opinion and to the next poster it might be right on point . This is the beauty of Freedom within a non communist society. The legacy of Karl Marx is countries that will shut you down when you dont goose step to their ideas . Karl Marx replaced public religion that is usually headed by a higer power with a system that put the highest authority in Man. Men who still practiced secret religions called occult sciences. Occult science is the true ****. Yahshua made man . Man made religions So you will be the result of what you were taught and how you were raised but at some point the unseen world can become a reality and change your whole way of doing thangs.

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prettyboi04 · Feb 2008

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Brother P wrote:
okay you might be new to message boards...but you just hi -jacked your own thread...the proper way to do this is to start another thread. why because some one might not read all of the post especially if the thread is hot . So a new person to the thread could reply to something on page 5 and still be somewhat within the range of the thread. now it is true a topic may become exhausted and clearly misunderstood but that is your opinion and to the next poster it might be right on point . This is the beauty of Freedom within a non communist society. The legacy of Karl Marx is countries that will shut you down when you dont goose step to their ideas . Karl Marx replaced public religion that is usually headed by a higer power with a system that put the highest authority in Man. Men who still practiced secret religions called occult sciences. Occult science is the true ****. Yahshua made man . Man made religions So you will be the result of what you were taught and how you were raised but at some point the unseen world can become a reality and change your whole way of doing thangs.

Yahshua didn't make man. Evolution did. DUH! That's anthropology 101!!!