I know alot of people believe in the biblical character Jesus, but how about this. I was reading a book the other day and the author began to talk about the origins of Judaism and Christianity. Here is a summary of what he said.
The story of Jesus is a mythical story based on esoteric symbolism of the Sun God. Hence Jesus is the "Son of God". The crown of thorns that he wore on the cross is symbolic of the rays of Sun, and is also seen on the Statue of Liberty (which is another symbolic figure). The cross itself comes from the Egyptian Ankh, which represents life and light, the Sun.
The trinity Jesus-God-Holy Spirit parallels many other mythical stories such as Horus-Osiris-**** (Egypt). Similarities between Horus and Jesus?
Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. Horus was the truth and the life.
Both the Good Shephard
Both were the lamb
Both are identified with a cross
Both were baptised at 30
Jesus was child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, ****.
The birth of both are marked by a star
Both were the child teacher in the temple
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst
Jesus was tempted on a mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set (Egyptian god of darkness, hence sun-Set)
Jesus was said to be judge of the ****. This was also said about ****, Krishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-Kiun Bacchus, Zeus and others.
Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick, raising the ****. So did Krishna(Hindu), Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others.
Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others.
Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Krishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun, Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl (Mexican not mayan though) and far more.
Jesus will be born again. So will Krishna, Vishnu, Buddha, Quetzalcoatl and others.
The story of Jesus was created/recycled and used as a tool to enslave people's minds through a dictatorial religion, Christianity. This religion is not unique in any way.
The twelve disciples are symbolism for the twelves solar bodies (yes there are twelve) and twelve astrological signs. 12 is all over the place.
During Easter, the summer solstice, the sun begins to stay out shorter and shorter until its shortest length of time in December. Jesus was born on December 25th. It takes the Sun three days to recover from the winter solstice from December 21st/22nd to December 25th. He dies in March on Easer. Hence Jesus died and rose on the third day. The same length of time it took the Babylon Son of God, Tammuz to rise again.
Also March is during the astrological sign of Aries, the Ram or... the lamb.
Jesus is associated with the fish because that is when he was supposed to have been born. During the entering of the astrological house of Pisces not the sign. Astrological houses last somewhere around 2000+ years. We are now entering the house of Aquarious.
The Christian religious day is... SUNday.
The author then speaks about who the true authors of the New Testament are. Let me assure you they are not Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul or any of these Biblical characters.
As a matter of fact there is no documentation of anybody by these names ever to have been in these places at this time outside of the Bible. There is nobody named Pontius Pilate except in the Bible.
There is no written history of anybody named Moses, King David, King Solomon or most of the Biblical characters you read about except in the Bible. These are characters aer more symbolism that I could get into.
I have no problem with anybody's religious beliefs I just think it's necessary to do the research before you make that comittment.
So did Jesus really live? Or is he a biblical character that has been created and so hyped up that the whole world accepts him as LORD without looking at background information. Jesus was a duplicate, myth, and he has been used to control the populations to this day. Have you ever thought about where these religions came from? and why is Bush claiming to be a Christian? And why have so many wars been started in the past because of religion? And why was there centuries of Dark Ages when knowledge was suppressed because of religion? And why were so many people slaughtered at the inquisition because of RELIGION? It's because religion is a tool, a quite effective one at that.
:roll: Okay how about you take that negative crap over there :arrow: .No one asked you to believe in anything.
Yea, no one asked me to believe in anything in this post but in the real world I hear it all the time.."My God is a loving God", "Jesus died for our sins", "If you get saved you will go to heaven","If you don't saved you will burn in HELL", "I only date CHRISTIAN MEN(Like I'm Evil cause i don't believe in your invisible GOD)"...
At a young age I've noticed that the Christian Religion is based on "Promises"..That's all...Let's take it back a few hundred years..
**** Master - "Boy, If you pick this cotton and become a Christian maybe the Lord will allow you to escape this hell so you could live forever in Heaven but untill then..GET TO WORK"
**** - "I's Goin Go To Church EVERYDAY Sir..Soon as I pick this here cotton!!!"
:roll: Okay how about you take that negative crap over there :arrow: .No one asked you to believe in anything.
Yea, no one asked me to believe in anything in this post but in the real world I hear it all the time.."My God is a loving God", "Jesus died for our sins", "If you get saved you will go to heaven","If you don't saved you will burn in HELL", "I only date CHRISTIAN MEN(Like I'm Evil cause i don't believe in your invisible GOD)"...
At a young age I've noticed that the Christian Religion is based on "Promises"..That's all...Let's take it back a few hundred years..
**** Master - "Boy, If you pick this cotton and become a Christian maybe the Lord will allow you to escape this hell so you could live forever in Heaven but untill then..GET TO WORK"
**** - "I's Goin Go To Church EVERYDAY Sir..Soon as I pick this here cotton!!!"
:roll: Okay , thats how you feel..So what?!?!? I refuse to compromise my religion and beliefs because someone read a book and saw that there was something that they agreed with.
See now we have a very common misconception of God. If you think God is the cause of all your troubles then there is a problem. If you think God is the cause of your joy you might have a misconception.
This is what happens. People realise that there have been tons of cruelty in the name of "God" and then they hate "God" altogether. The cats that were doing these things in the name of God knew the truth about God but they don't want YOU to know the truth because then you become as powerful as them and then we can't control you now. So to keep you in a cage they lie about the supernatural force (God) and tell you that he condemns you if you don't act a certain way.
But anyway as you can see people hate god rather than seeking for him spiritually in another place. Or instead of hating God we just choose not to believe altogether and go about our lives when without "God" (realising some aspect of supernatural divinity) life is actually quite meaningless.
:roll: Okay , thats how you feel..So what?!?!? I refuse to compromise my religion and beliefs because someone read a book and saw that there was something that they agreed with.
I think it's more than a Book but like the other guy..I'm open-minded...My views on this didn't come up over night :roll: . I still respect christians like you because that's what you believe in..Isn't it a two-way street? You or your pastor read/taught you things from a "book" as well.
Hmmmm, I have not heard somethings mentioned in this whole topic....Deliverance, the holy spirit ect. Is it an act???? Have I witnessed these things and it was all for show???? What I felt was simply my emotions??? :?
:roll: Okay , thats how you feel..So what?!?!? I refuse to compromise my religion and beliefs because someone read a book and saw that there was something that they agreed with.
I respect this but the thing is your beliefs are like a box. You put things in you take things out. Some things you don't let in. Some things you won't let out.
You don't have to give up your belief in God. Just realise that God doesn't fit into a box. Maybe take your lid off the box and allow your box to become larger so that you can fit more things into it. Through new ideas into the box. Work with already existing ideas and mold them into stronger ones.
I could say yeah I'm a Christian right now depending on how you want to define it. If you say that a Christian is someone who lives like Christ did (for the sake of discussion I'll assume that he was a real person and did all the things the Bible said he did) then I believe I do live like Christ because I m constantly seeking knowledge, like he probably did between 12 and 30. I wake up each day with the intent to radiate love. That's all.
But then if you say "To be "saved" you have to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and this and that", then I say I can't fit in that box and I turn around and ask why do you limit yourself?
See now we have a very common misconception of God. If you think God is the cause of all your troubles then there is a problem. If you think God is the cause of your joy you might have a misconception.
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There aren't any misconceptions here..I mean that's why churchs have so many members..People are worried about what GOD could do for them. It's like that for almost EVERY religion. People worship GOD because they want to live wonderful lives and go on to heaven where they could live like kings/queens forever. That's what it's about right?
I don't have the time to find the verses..but in the Bible and other holy scriptures it does have lines where it supports slavery..
Hmmmm, I have not heard somethings mentioned in this whole topic....Deliverance, the holy spirit ect. Is it an act???? Have I witnessed these things and it was all for show???? What I felt was simply my emotions??? :?
I don't know what you mean by deliverance. It sounds like somebody used their mind and decided not to worry abouttrivial stuff that we experience in our lives. If we are ever going through troubles it is because our mind is troubled you can relieve your mind in several ways. Or if I'm off please describe deliverance for me.
What do you mean by holy spirit? Do you mean a feeling of divinity? Yes I believe all of this is possible because like I said in one of my posts. The holy spirit = the Soul.
Don't undermine your emotions. Emotions are very powerful and is actually how all of us should operate. But modern society has told us that emotions are bad and if you are emotional you are weak. No, I believe feeling strong emotions is tapping the spiritual energy inside. They have also used emotions to control us, refer to September 11, 2001.
