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Issues with Greek Life Posted on 06-11-2003
Ajia

Okay, earlier today me and my friend were talking about joining greek organizations and how we felt about them. I personally think that they are great to join b/c they do a lot of good things for the community and get you involved in some positive things. And they all teach about sisterhood or brotherhood. Plus, they seem to be a lot of fun too. But, my friend says she doesn't view them as a sisterhood or brotherhood thing. To her it's more like "buying your friends". And she wouldn't be part of any organization that she had to be bullied around to get in. She is the first person whom I've ever known to view greek organizations that way. Is there anyone on here that views them that same way?
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La replied on 06-11-2003 04:40PM [Reply]
Well I know people who feel like your friend does. My mom isnt to excited about me wanting to pledge a sorority my 2nd year because she thinks that sororities think they are better than people. There may be some that are like that, but definitely not all of them. I still plan on pledging because you cant hate on something you dont really know about.
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replied on 06-11-2003 05:07PM [Reply]
Yeah I know people who say that they wouldn't join one because of the bullying or hazing. But nobody had ever brought up the aspect of "buying your friends" to me before. But in a way I think it's good that they are really **** pledges with the bullying. Because if they were'nt any and everybody would be tryin' to join. And some of those people wouldn't take the organization seriously they would just be in it for the partying.
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Afro-American replied on 06-11-2003 05:17PM [Reply]
yeah i kinda understand the aspect of buying friends cause thats how i feel about it also...i also dont want to pledge because it just seems like there is no point to it..it just seems kinda superficial almost to be degraded and then come into a group all "lovey dovey"...and i dont see the point in them expecting me to put my whole trust into an organization after a few weeks when i dont trust people after 1-2 years lol...i mean i just dont get the concept of stopping everything and showing complete love for a group when the time calls for it..but i mean for some people greek orgs are good for them..just not meant for me..not downing them.
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replied on 06-11-2003 05:24PM [Reply]
mehogeni wrote:
yeah i kinda understand the aspect of buying friends cause thats how i feel about it also...i also dont want to pledge because it just seems like there is no point to it..it just seems kinda superficial almost to be degraded and then come into a group all "lovey dovey"...and i dont see the point in them expecting me to put my whole trust into an organization after a few weeks when i dont trust people after 1-2 years lol...i mean i just dont get the concept of stopping everything and showing complete love for a group when the time calls for it..but i mean for some people greek orgs are good for them..just not meant for me..not downing them.
Yeah, I totally understand were both you and my friend are coming from. Especially the part about acting all "lovey dovey" after all of the things they put you through. That's the only part that I have issues with.
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replied on 06-11-2003 06:14PM [Reply]
I sort of agree because I don't think I can be cool with you if you or somebody in the organization has "bullied or hazed" me. And then beone with them or count them on the top priority in my college experience. :?
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La replied on 06-11-2003 07:26PM [Reply]
Ajia wrote:
Yeah I know people who say that they wouldn't join one because of the bullying or hazing. But nobody had ever brought up the aspect of "buying your friends" to me before. But in a way I think it's good that they are really **** pledges with the bullying. Because if they were'nt any and everybody would be tryin' to join. And some of those people wouldn't take the organization seriously they would just be in it for the partying.
I agree with everyhing you said. And I understand how some people would feel about being hazed, and then the people who hazed you are now your " best friends. " But I just feel it is all apart of being initiated. I still want to pledge because I wanna feel what its like to really be apart of a sisterhood, and also I would get to be in the step shows stepping :lol:
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replied on 06-11-2003 07:51PM [Reply]
IsSySs_18 wrote:
Ajia wrote:
Yeah I know people who say that they wouldn't join one because of the bullying or hazing. But nobody had ever brought up the aspect of "buying your friends" to me before. But in a way I think it's good that they are really **** pledges with the bullying. Because if they were'nt any and everybody would be tryin' to join. And some of those people wouldn't take the organization seriously they would just be in it for the partying.
I agree with everyhing you said. And I understand how some people would feel about being hazed, and then the people who hazed you are now your " best friends. " But I just feel it is all apart of being initiated. I still want to pledge because I wanna feel what its like to really be apart of a sisterhood, and also I would get to be in the step shows stepping :lol:
Yeah, that's the exact same reasons that I want to join. Especially the whole sisterhood thing since I don't have any real sisters who I can turn to for anything.
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replied on 06-12-2003 10:24AM [Reply]
I can see where everyone is coming from on both sides. As far as hazing goes, I dont think they should beat you to death to join but at the same time I dont think EVERYBODY should join, nevertheless, do nothing to join. Since I'm a cheerleader, I always use it as an example. You can't be on the cheerleading squad unless you try out. For all those who cheer or know about their cheerleading process, tryouts are no cake walk. You have to condition, learn routines, and the whole nine. But coaches require all that because they want the best on their squad. I see pledging as the same way. A lot of times, people who are there for the wrong reasons show their true colors while they are on line. Sororities/Fraternities want (or should want) the truly dedicated and "right" people for their organization. I see the pledge process as that test, it separates the good from the bad (lol) Any rational person knows what's right and wrong, and what is "crossing the line" so if they happen to be in that situation, they should have enough respect for themselves and for future pledges to speak up. Now as far as what organizations stand for and their purpose I think it depends. I might see one thing in a sorority and someone else might have a totally different view of them. Their are bad apples in everything, that's life but if you honestly feel like you can't proudly represent that organization, then don't pledge. If they dont represent what you think a true sisterhood/brotherhood is, then don't pledge. It's really that simple. The only thing I would be concerned with is making sure that Im truly pledging for the right reasons. :wink:
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La replied on 06-12-2003 10:39AM [Reply]
NaushiZ wrote:
I can see where everyone is coming from on both sides. As far as hazing goes, I dont think they should beat you to death to join but at the same time I dont think EVERYBODY should join, nevertheless, do nothing to join. Since I'm a cheerleader, I always use it as an example. You can't be on the cheerleading squad unless you try out. For all those who cheer or know about their cheerleading process, tryouts are no cake walk. You have to condition, learn routines, and the whole nine. But coaches require all that because they want the best on their squad. I see pledging as the same way. A lot of times, people who are there for the wrong reasons show their true colors while they are on line. Sororities/Fraternities want (or should want) the truly dedicated and "right" people for their organization. I see the pledge process as that test, it separates the good from the bad (lol) Any rational person knows what's right and wrong, and what is "crossing the line" so if they happen to be in that situation, they should have enough respect for themselves and for future pledges to speak up. Now as far as what organizations stand for and their purpose I think it depends. I might see one thing in a sorority and someone else might have a totally different view of them. Their are bad apples in everything, that's life but if you honestly feel like you can't proudly represent that organization, then don't pledge. If they dont represent what you think a true sisterhood/brotherhood is, then don't pledge. It's really that simple. The only thing I would be concerned with is making sure that Im truly pledging for the right reasons. :wink:
EXACTLY !!!! I couldnt have said this any better. You really took the words out of my mouth..lol :lol: :lol:
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