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Harry Watley const. contractor/ retired at self Hello Irma, I do not think that you understand the point my blog is making. My blog is about the feelings White people have as sovereign free people and Black Americans could not possibly have the same feelings. In other words, do you think any of Mr. Frederick Douglass letters could worth that much? Who would be interested in having of Mr. Frederick Douglass? There is no worthwhile history to Mr. Frederick Douglass. There is no worthwhile history to Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. However, the time is shortly around the corner that we will make world history as soon as we become a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Black Americans are not sufficiently intelligent at the moment or else they would want to be a sovereign people. Black Americans are not sufficiently intelligent at the moment or else they would want to have their hands on the helm of their own destiny. God have raised me up among Black Americans to encourage Black Americans to want to be a real people. Do you understand that special feeling that I am referring to about Whites having? Tell me what you think. Saturday, December 5th 2009 at 8:39PM

Richard Kigel teacher, writer at Philosophy Day School “There is no worthwhile history to Mr. Frederick Douglass.” What??? Did you really say that? On a website named BLACKHISTORY.COM? You just showed the world that you have never read anything about Mr. Frederick Douglass because if you had you would know what a proud, strong, intelligent, educated, inspiring and deeply religious man he was. Every American, black, brown, green, purple and white, should read about Frederick Douglass because he was a real hero. When you start your Sovereign Nation, you should bring plenty of copies of his autobiography to inspire the folks. Would the letters of Frederick Douglass be worth that much? I don’t know. But, if you read my blog, you will learn that a newly discovered letter written by slave poet Phillis Wheatley was sold for $253,000. It was the highest amount ever for a letter by an African-American and the highest amount ever for a woman, black or white. So somebody thinks letters by African-American heroes are worth thousands of dollars. Saturday, December 5th 2009 at 9:15PM

Harry Watley const. contractor/ retired at self Hello Mr. Kigel, I believe that you are missing the point that I am stressing. The point that I am stressing is not so much the letter of President George Washington as the sovereignty of Mr. George Washington. Mr. Frederick Douglass and Ms. Phyllis Wheatley did not have complete independence as President George Washington did. Did you not understand the part of my blog that says the spiritual, intangible or indescribable feeling that White American people feels about their historical constitutional document that represents to the world their sovereignty while Black Americans are void of this indescribable feeling? Mr. Kigel you do not really understand the essence of what I am saying. I know and understand what I am saying because I mentally and physically feel it. What I mentally and physically feel is the same thing Moses mentally and physically felt when he returned to Egypt to free his people. The Egyptians the same as you could not understand the love that Moses mentally and physically felt for his people until the tide began to change. Mr. Kigel I want White America to let my people go. I already have God’s permission to lead my people out of subjugation and racism and into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. I want my people to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way. I want my people to have their hands on the helm of their own destiny. We will inherit a portion of this continent that we can worship God through our own religion and not through Christianity. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and not Jesus. Did not Moses want Pharaoh to let his people go that they could worship Yahweh through their own religion and not the religion of Pharaoh? So, why it is that you do not understand what I am saying. Jesus belongs to you since you have claimed him and I belong to my people. Everything that I say is going to happen. Am I making any sense with you? Tell me what you think. Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 12:24AM

Harry Watley const. contractor/ retired at self Hello Irma, Irma, I do not understand anything you say. I just do not understand or could make heads or tails out of anything you say. You never have a comprehensive story with a beginning, middle and an ending that ties into what the blog is about, you never answer any questions, and occasionally you might ask a question. To me, you are just a one-person conservationist. Do you understand what I am trying to say to you? Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 3:57AM

Richard Kigel teacher, writer at Philosophy Day School Dear Mr. Whatley: THE FULLNESS OF GOD'S BLESSINGS BE UPON YOU AND THOSE YOU LOVE!!! Since you desire something you call "White America" to authorize you to establish a soverign nation for Black Americans, I say--YES! And whoever wishes to do so and move there, good for them and Godspeed! So you have one vote. BUT...you avoided explaining how you could justify dismissing the life and legacy of one of the greatest African-American heroes who is also heroic to many white folks who admire grace, courage and determination under the most dire oppression. I think you made a mistake there. Let's see if you are honest enough to own up to it. PEACE TO YOU!!! Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 11:16AM

Richard Kigel teacher, writer at Philosophy Day School Dear Ms. Robinson: Yes! Yes! Yes! I agree with you totally! It is a simple fact , as you say, that many " Slaves were able to read and to write...this to ME is PRICELSS, BECAUSE IT IS EDUCATION THAT IS HIDDEN." Ralph Ellison wrote: "There was more free-floating literacy available to Negroes than has been assumed." This has had a deep personal affect on me as a teacher of reading and writing. That is why I became so fascinated with the nineteenth century slave narratives. If you read any of my blogs, you can see that I am trying to highlight those former slaves who did write about their experiences . I think you will agree with me that their voices should be silenced no longer. Let's share their stories with the world!!! Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 11:24AM

Harry Watley const. contractor/ retired at self Hello Mr. Kigel, You said this, “Since you desire something you call "White America" to authorize you to establish a soverign nation for Black Americans, I say--YES!” Please let me correct this thought of yours immediately. White America has no authority about and over the coming sovereignty of Black Americans. Mr. Kigel there is a specific and significant reason why I use the story of Moses often times two parallel Black Americans plight. I said that to say this, do you think that Pharaoh and Egypt had any authority about and over the Exodus. Absolutely not! Pharaoh and Egypt certainly had no authority over the Exodus. The same is the case with White America. White America has no authority over the coming sovereignty of Black Americans. Now, about Mr. Frederick Douglas, the point that I am trying to make clear to you Mr. Kigel and others is that all Black Americans in the past are presently nothing. When they will become something is when present day Black Americans are sovereign people. Right now Black Americans are on a leash held by White America. This same as when a person takes their pet dog for a walk, the dog is on a leash. Now, if the dog is passing by a tree and decide to stop and smell the tree but the leash holder do not agree, the leash holder will simply pull or yank the dog away from the tree. You see this happens all the time so you know the point that I am making. Anyway, it will be at the time of our sovereignty that Black Americans could make statues, portraits and busts of these good and great Blacks and place them in our parks, museums and halls of our White House or Ruling house to admire and reflect upon since they are personally Black Americans to admire. In other words, right now Mr. Frederick Douglass, Dr. King, Elijah Muhammad and Phyllis Wheatley are not in their final resting place of honor. Whites can only see these people as displays and wonder while Blacks sees them with incredible honor. Whites cannot honor Black Americans as Black Americans could. By the same token, Blacks cannot honor President George Washington as Whites could. Are you coming around to understand what I trying to say to you, Mr. Kigel? Tell me what you think. Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 4:25PM

Siebra Muhammad A Registration Clerk/Specialist at New Orleans Public Schools Harry you and all the rest of your imps need to sit your five dollar selves down before the rest of the BIA members cash it and get some change. The things you post about Black Americans and even Min. Farrakhan do not add up, Minister Farrakhan tour the world, held a Million Man March in Washington, D.C. and over one million people showed up, who else in Black America can say that, other than Farrakhan and his supporters. So all that they do and you, a descendant of slaves, waste your time posting a bunch of foolishness about us. Hell you should be ashamed to write it. You do not need any followers, Farrakhan does, because you have a family to support and Farrakhan have a Nation to support. At the rate we are going eventually you will come to your senses and you will have no more courage to post any BS any more. Speaking of the members you said that we are posting things not relevant to Black Americans but thats nonsense, if I was you I would stop criticizing Min. Farrakhan because you make it look like the "big I little U" like we all know that's how it is. You like many other would kiss his ass if you had a chance. And if and when he accepts your idea of sovereignity maybe he will put you on Class F infraction for being a fool! To the members I encourage you to be serious of the time that we are in (The Fall Of America) and keep extending your will to ensure the success of what must be done. Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 5:19PM

Richard Kigel teacher, writer at Philosophy Day School Hey, man...you are the one who said QUOTE: "I want White America to let my people go." So I am saying, OK--fine by me. I can't speak for anybody else. But I would like everyone to have an opportunity to realize their dreams. You also said "Whites can only see these people as displays and wonder while Blacks sees them with incredible honor." I say: Well, I am white and to my mind, these two amazing heroes deserve the highest honors. That is why I read and study their lives. That is why I write about them. I am so impressed with their amazing courage, resourcefulness and strength I want everybody to be as inspired as I am. White folks are getting better at honoring these great black icons. It’s not like thirty years ago when they were invisible and ignored. In cities all over the US, dozens of streets and schools are named after Frederick Douglass and Phillis Wheatley and others because local governments made of whites and blacks supported the name changes to honor them. The home of Frederick Douglass in Washington DC is now a museum and cultural center celebrating African-American history, part of our National Park System, maintained and paid for by federal taxes. Would you agree that a fitting honor for Frederick Douglass is turning his home into a monument and education center where people can learn about the values he stood for, all paid for by the US government? And you are still avoiding explaining WHY you think: “There is no worthwhile history to Mr. Frederick Douglass.” I can’t blame you for trying to run away from that statement. It is indefensible, incomprehensible and nonsensical. Clearly, Frederick Douglass is one of the most worthwhile characters in all of American history. So when you get your Sovereign nation started up, will you make his autobiography available to the people? It will truly inspire them to greatness. Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 9:07PM

Harry Watley const. contractor/ retired at self Hello Siebra, You said this, “The things you post about Black Americans and even Min. Farrakhan do not add up, Minister Farrakhan tour the world, held a Million Man March in Washington, D.C. and over one million people showed up, who else in Black America can say that, other than Farrakhan and his supporters.” Siebra, I believe that because you are so fond of Mr. Farrakhan, your fondness obscure your rational ability about his relevance concerning Black America’s future. Mr. Farrakhan neither promotes nor advocates the sovereignty or complete independence of Black Americans on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Mr. Farrakhan is not a Moses type figure that Black Americans must have and that is because God had not anointed him. No doubt, you and over one million people that showed up in Washington, DC to support him with the Million Man March anoint Mr. Farrakhan. God did not anoint Dr. King either despite the overwhelming people that showed up for the march on Washington, DC that Mr. King led. However, it will take God’s anointed one to lead Black Americans into sovereignty or complete independence on a portion of this continent. Mr. Farrakhan has become a Christian preacher with a taste of Islam. I take nothing away from Mr. Farrakhan that he is deserving of, but Christianity and Islam cannot raise Black Americans. Neither will either of these two religions be our religion in our sovereign country yet to be. Our religion is, “The Salvation of God for the Sovereignty of Black Americans who are Descendents of Slaves” Black Americans are a new breed or race of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery and as such, everything that we get from God through our genuine prophet will be new, as well. Black Americans, since we are the Apple of God’s eye today we do not need to be followers of other people that God had visited in the past. In other words, when God visited the Arabia and people and anointed Prophet Mohammed, Prophet Mohammed left his Arabian people with the religion of Islam. Therefore, for Black Americans to embrace the religion of Islam only means that Black Americans are followers of the Arabian people. Allah God has blessed Black Americans today the same as the Arabian people was blessed in the days of Prophet Mohammed. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet and not Mr. Farrakhan. Have I explained everything to you in a way that you would understand, please let me know. Tell me what you think. Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 10:50PM

Harry Watley const. contractor/ retired at self Hello Mr. Kigel, You said this about me, “Hey, man...you are the one who said QUOTE: "I want White America to let my people go." So I am saying, OK--fine by me” Then, you said this, “Since you desire something you call "White America" to authorize you to establish a soverign nation for Black Americans,” Mr. Kigel what you are quoting me as saying, “I want white America to let my people go” I am not seeking White America’s authorization whatsoever. In other words, when the smoke has cleared White America will not be able to say they were gracious enough to let Black Americans go. The sovereignty of Black Americans will be secured by the hands of God if you will as God secured the Exodus of the children of Israel. Am I making a connection with you, now? White America must understand and the sooner the better that they have no control over Black Americans anymore since my anointing. I speak with the authority of God as Moses did in his day and time. Next, you said this, “BUT...you avoided explaining how you could justify dismissing the life and legacy of one of the greatest African-American heroes” Of course, you are referring to Mr. Frederick Douglas. What I am trying to explain to you that you do not see yet, is that while Black Americans are still a subjugated people by White America, figuratively speaking if you will, no Black Americans is worth anything in the world. For Black Americans to be worth anything, Black Americans must become real people and sovereign on a portion of this continent that Black Americans could call their very own country with borders. In addition, when Black Americans leave the 500 years influences of White America we will take our honorees with us as Moses took the remains of Joseph with them when do Exodus began. Again, when the smoke rose over after our sovereignty, the history of Black Americans will officially become the history of Black Americans. Right now Black America’s history if you will is really White America’s history. I hope that you understand better, now. Tell me what you think. Sunday, December 6th 2009 at 11:19PM

Richard Kigel teacher, writer at Philosophy Day School Dear Mr. Whatley: I do admire your single minded passion for a cause you truly believe in. And, as I have said to you before, I wish you well in your endeavors. BUT, I do wonder whether you noticed that, at least by the evidence on thIS site, you alienate more people than you convince. Sorry to say you will never realize your dreams unless you can persuade folks to follow you. So why not try a different approach? Be nice to people! Don't pick unnecessary fights over details. And, most important, don't insult or disrespect people's heroes and their religious leaders. Why would anybody follow you if you make them angry at you? And you continue to avoid addressing your own mistakes. You disrespected Frederick Douglass, a truly great American, admired by both blacks and whites, a giant in American history. And your explanation about why you did so said nothing about Frederick Douglass himself. You got distracted by your own passionate beliefs in the soveereignty issue and wandered off the point. YOUR EXPLANATION DIDN'T REALLY EXPLAIN. That's okay. As I said to you, you point is indefensible and nonsensical. There can be no valid reason for it. Meanwhile, I wish you luck gathering suppporters to your cause. PEACE TO YOU!!! Monday, December 7th 2009 at 9:03AM

Harry Watley const. contractor/ retired at self Hello Mr. Kigel, You said this, “you alienate more people than you convince.” It may seem this way to you, but that is not what is happening. My people are facing something new that they cannot overcome or defend themselves against what I represents that they need so very much, our freedom and sovereignty. Therefore, they step back, but they will return to me. When they fight me or alienate themselves from me, they do not realize yet that I am what they need. The same thing happened with Moses. At first, the Hebrew people alienated themselves from Moses, but they returned to Moses and soon after the exodus from Egypt began, am I right. In other words, what is going to develop through me is not conventional; it is divine. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet who will permanently make right Black America’s dilemmas of the past 500 years in White America. The same as Moses; Moses was the genuine prophet who permanently made right the 400 years dilemmas of the Hebrew people in Egypt, am I right. However, I appreciate your advice. Next, you said this, “And you continue to avoid addressing your own mistakes. You disrespected Frederick Douglass,” I do not see how you could have come to this conclusion when I have told you that when the sovereignty of Black Americans are secured, busts, statues and portraits of our honored people particularly Mr. Frederick Douglass will line the halls of the building our president rules from as well as parks and national places. I paralleled Mr. Frederick Douglass, as Joseph was to the Hebrew people that Moses took Joseph’s remains with them when they left Egypt on the Exodus. So, why do you continue to say I disrespect Mr. Frederick Douglass? I think that you do not understand the essence of what I am saying that Mr. Frederick Douglass will have value when Black Americans sovereignty is secured. In other words, what could Mr. Geronimo mean to the Apaches went all of them are on reservations? Tell me what you think. Monday, December 7th 2009 at 11:19AM

Richard Kigel teacher, writer at Philosophy Day School Dear Mr. Whatley: You are right! I do not understand the essence of what you are saying because you have not explained it adequately. Your explanation about Frederick Douglass mentioned his name but said nothing about Frederick Douglass at all. It was about--actually, I don't really know what it was about because you didn't explain it clearly. Anyway, I do wish you well and I hope you find your heart's desire! PEACE TO YOU!!! Monday, December 7th 2009 at 3:46PM

ROBINSON IRMA UC, Davis class of 1992 Richard, there is not price that ("I") can be put on someting you just said, You just said something that the United state government has been hiding and CNn will never show eventhough they get about say $253,000 for an ad on their specials...it is that Slaves were able to read and to write...this to ME is PRICELSS, BECAUSE IT IS EDUCATION THAT IS HIDDEN...and, hell it could even cost someone in the Republican party a job. This could cost them to loose all of those $ millions and $ millions they are now reaping from those rallies to prove just how worthless the Blacks are: past, present and future...LOL Harry, "I" believe that these people who sold this has done an injustice to our country and to our children and to our sense of morality...I say this because somethings are sacret or they should be... HOw can you put a price on someone's life, their worth, value as a human being doing what they believe is right in God's eyes?!?Is this not what we teach our citizens about those who were the founding fathers of this country???? Harry, I do take it for granted that you were born in America???????????!!!!!!(smile) Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

ROBINSON IRMA UC, Davis class of 1992 Harry, you are taking about the George Washington who fought against the man God King of England???...and if it is this G.W. then was he a slave of England and if not then why was he fighting for FREEDOM for???? One can not be FREE and fighting to be FREE at the same time...but, then Harry, you and I don't live on the same planet where if "I" am a decendant of slaves and you say that you are Black but not a decendant of slaves is maybe why we can not get to see things the same way?!? WE TEND TO SEE THE WORLD TROUGH THE EYES OF OUR CULTURE...but, then Harry you and I both know that you are not interested in any words of any one else in the first place.(smile)Me, I am on a mission which is the same as yours is... Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

ROBINSON IRMA UC, Davis class of 1992 It is my understanding that the son of God was bron in the middle-east and a Jew...but, then we do tend to deny TURTHS like these hings that only takes common sense and ot a lable of profit nor a leader of a nation (that dies not exist)to understand something like a map, culture, skin color, race, reigion difinitions ect.LOL Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

ROBINSON IRMA UC, Davis class of 1992 Harry, your ignorance of Black In America is showing...oh, but then no one who has learned any thing from the White schools/ White masters' choldren, or own our own such as reading, writing, ect will be allowed in your nation, RIGHT(?)...so any documents that the Black Americans have or don't have does not matter so why the insults of your post, because this was only to be an out and out put down of Black America wasn't it, Harry?!?(smile) Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

ROBINSON IRMA UC, Davis class of 1992 Richard, you have made a great start as so many of us of all races, creeds, colors and s*xes have done...but, this is no even a beginning...I say this because we are still under an illusion that we can pick out those we like and leave out those we do not like out of the picture...my best exmples are the belief that the Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam , Sarah Palin , Hillary Clinton are not all as much responsible for us having a Black president as those of all colors, creeds, and s*xes who voted for him , because they are the True Heroes in this big picture that is still so openy revered along with the blinders of the ignoance of personal prejudices we give so much time and energy in accpting a false and minuplated reality in this country.(smile) I KNOW THAT I KEEP BRINGING UP THE BLACK PANTHERS...I DO SO BECAUSE IT IS THEIR EFFORTS THAT THOSE SUTDENTS WERE ABLE TO LEAD THE CHARGES FOR CHANGE (in 2008) WHICH OVER RODE THE USUAL RACE ISSUES OF THE PAST THAT HAS PREVENTED IN 2008 that which we will be fed in 2010...or have you not heard of the P-U-R-E right-wing Republican party, yet?(smile) (open, and honest)EDUCATION, EDUCATION AND EDUCATION WILL SET US ALL FREE.. And, "I" will now get of of my soap box. Thank ou Harry for this post and thank you Richard and thank you Clark...we are all members of the human race.(smile) Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

ROBINSON IRMA UC, Davis class of 1992 Richard, "I" have accepted when it comes to Harry that there is no PAST /PRESENT therefore there is only what Harry will make into being ONE DAY, SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE...in the mean time I shall call the land that I have a deed to as 'my' piece of land/country/nation in a north America continet called Ameca.(smile) HOw can I be either right or wrong for doing this in the PRESENT?smile? Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM

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