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Farrakhan: America's time is up

Posted By: Steven Muhammad on December 07, 2009

By Ashahed M. Muhammad

The Adamic people, or White race has been given power, authority and influence over most of the planet, however, their rule has not been a rule that God would be pleased with even though he permitted it, the Minister said. The White race was also given an extension of time to rule, to allow time for Black people to rise and do something for themselves, and to allow White people to repent for their evil.

“This is not God's way that we are living.



You are of the righteous but you are not living a righteous life,” said Min. Farrakhan. “It's not because we don't want to, it's because we live in a society where evil is so pervasive. It is so effective that it is pulling us into behavior that we ourselves are shocked at what we do.”

“It is the time of the setting of the sun on the Western world, the setting of the sun on White supremacy, the setting of the sun on colonialism in all its forms, the setting of the sun on sexism, the setting of the sun on racism.”

“Your rise into the knowledge and power of your own nature will negate his power to deceive! So he won't exist when you rise into Islam!” Read more....


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Steven Muhammad
President at Knowledge for LIFE
No one would argue that we are living in the "Last Days." The question is, Last Days for whom or what. I was taught that the world (Earth and all life on it) would end and that we would all become floating spirits in another dimension that would have many of the things that are found here on Earth (ei, streets of GOLD, PEARLY gates, MILK AND HONEY).
Since studying the Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad I have come to realize that the Here-After is literally HERE (on Earth) AFTER the removal of Satan (Powerful wicked people) and his way of life (sin). I have also learned that the Resurrection of the Dead is not talking about the physically dead but the Spiritually and Mentally dead. This teaching is so clear, no confusion, no guessing - Actual Fact.
Monday, December 7th 2009 at 6:20PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Steven,

I have a question for you. Do you believe that Mr. Elijah Muhammad was a man anointed by Allah God?

Tell me what you think.

Monday, December 7th 2009 at 8:33PM
Steven Muhammad
President at Knowledge for LIFE
I have a question for you Mr. Watley, why do you ask a question that you already know the answer to? A clue, my last name is Muhammad.
Monday, December 7th 2009 at 9:43PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Steven,

I see that you are somewhat agitated, but that is okay. I hope that as time passes the temperature of your agitation could cool down.

Well, to say that I should know the answer to my own question is because your surname is the same as Mr. Elijah’s surname (Muhammad), I would say that you are wrong. I believe that the name Muhammad means, praiseworthy or one worthy of praise, which is very different from anyone who is actually anointed by God.

I believe that you are under estimating the significance of what it means to be anointed by God. In other words, only Allah God anoints and because you and Mr. Elijah Muhammad having the same last name have nothing to do with anointing, am I right.

Now, having explained myself, may I ask you the same question again? Do you believe that Allah God anointed Mr. Elijah Muhammad?

Tell me what you think.

Tuesday, December 8th 2009 at 8:45AM
robert powell
co-owner at self
Steven,
Actual Fact?-----based on What?
What Scholarship?
Elijah Muhammad had many wives and children. He died in 1975.
Do any of His children, male or female, believe this understanding that you claim to have?
I am one of those children that understood my father-Personally - and my father told me and our family that Scholarship of Thought for the Muslim is AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(as)
In this christianThanksgiving speech, someone summarizing for farrakhan says:
"that Christians believe Jesus was the last great one, and Muslims believe that Muhammad (PBUH) is the seal of the prophets, so neither are open to accepting anyone claiming to be a messenger of God, however, the Minister made it clear “the guiding light” of the Nation of Islam's understanding of the scriptures and world events is the Honorable Elijah Muhammad"

This disbelief is madoffcheneyNationofIslamThought only- not AlIslaam---

Muslims are guided by Allaah and Allaah says in: Sűrat Al-An’âm - The Cattleherd
125. And whomsoever Allâah wills to guide, He opens his breast to AlIslâam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky. Thus Allâah puts the wrath on those who believe not.

If Allâh ĘÚÇáě wants to do good to a person, He makes him comprehend the religion [the understanding of AlQur’aân and the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohamed(as)---I am just a conduit to distribute, but the Originator is Allâah. And remember that this nation of Muslims, real followers of Monotheism-Deen; will remain obedient to Allâah’s Orders - following strictly Allâah’s Qur’âan and the Prophet’s Sunnah; and they will not be harmed by anyone who will oppose them going on a different path till Allâah’s Day of Judgement is established." (Sahih Al-Bukhâri, Vol.1, Hadîth No.71).

One stereotype of BIA is that they utilize no scholarship and make up "actual fact"-lie; steven- go buy a Qur'aan and read it.


Tuesday, December 8th 2009 at 9:56AM
Steven Muhammad
President at Knowledge for LIFE
Salaam Brother Powell, I have a number of Holy Quran (HQ), thank you. I also study the HQ using the Teachings of the Hon. Elijah Muhammad as the base of my understanding.

I believe it is your understanding that is arrested. No disrespect. I understand your defense of what you have been taught, however I ask you to study the HQ in a holistic way, meaning study it with history, mathamatics, science and nature.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is called the Seal of the Prophet. What does it mean to put a seal on a thing? According to the dictionary seal means to close, affix, end, etc. What is a Prophet? A Prophet is someone who speaks by divine inspiration; someone who is an interpreter of the will of God; An authoritative person who divines the future. Is a Prophet the same as the Christ or Messiah? A: NO.

All Muslims believe in the second coming of Jesus along with the Mahdi in the Last Days. Are these the last days? A: YES.

Holy Quran Surah 3 ayat 42 - 50
In the Name of Allah
3:42 And when the angels said: O Mary, surely Allah has chosen thee and purified thee and chosen thee above the women of the world.
3:43 O Mary, be obedient to thy Lord and humble thyself and bow down with those who bow.
3:44 This is of the tidings of things unseen which We reveal to thee. And thou wast not with them when they cast their pens (to decide) which of them should have Mary in his charge, and thou wast not with them when they contended one with another.
3:45 When the angels said: O Mary, surely Allah gives thee good news with a word from Him (of one) whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, worthy of regard in this world and the Hereafter, and of those who are drawn nigh (to Allah),
3:46 And he will speak to the people when in the cradle and when of old age, and (he will be) one of the good ones.
3:47 She said: My Lord, how can I have a son and man has not yet touched me? He said: Even so; Allah creates what He pleases. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, Be, and it is.
3:48 And He will teach him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel:
3:49 And (make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I determine for you out of dust the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with Allah’s permission, and I heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission; and I inform you of what you should eat and what you should store in your houses. Surely there is a sign in this for you, if you are believers.
3:50 And (I am) a verifier of that which is before me of the Torah, and I allow you part of that which was forbidden to you; and I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me.

We (Muslims) are taught that Jesus and his mother (Mary) are a sign. A sign of what or who?

Because there is not a lot of space and time to real deal with the subject here I will only point out that they are a sign of the Black man and woman, the Hon. Elijah Muhammad (and Min. Farrakhan). Mary respresent a woman who has not been touched by a 'real' man and the Black woman in America is the same way. Her man was destroyed, but God (In Person would come) and impregnat her (Black America) and she would give birth to The Messiah. The Sun of Islam is going out in the East and is rising in the West, open your eyes and you will see it.
Tuesday, December 8th 2009 at 12:00PM
Marquerite Burgess
President/CEO at MCB Processing and Marketing Services, LLC
I agree with Mrs. Irma Bro. Steve, please continue to bring forth the light of truth for so many that continue to walk in the darkness.
Tuesday, December 8th 2009 at 1:20PM
Siebra Muhammad
A Registration Clerk/Specialist at New Orleans Public Schools
Love your posts Brother! Keep them coming! As-Salaam Alaikum!
Tuesday, December 8th 2009 at 1:30PM
robert powell
co-owner at self
You postulate:
"I will only point out that they are a sign of the Black man and woman, the Hon. Elijah Muhammad (and Min. Farrakhan). Mary respresent a woman who has not been touched by a 'real' man and the Black woman in America is the same way. Her man was destroyed, but God (In Person would come) and impregnat her (Black America) and she would give birth to The Messiah."

This Thinking can only be explained in the English Language as FALSE!

1) You attribute something to Our Father Elijah that NONE of His Family Agree with You.
2) And this is the history of the negro in america, christianity has nothing to do with the slave, but there are more slavechristian preachers in American than european.
Thats a stereotype that slaves like to "make up stuff to Believe".

AlIslaam has had over 1430 years of constant Scholarship and Verification and your Thought or farrkhanThought is at best, 30years old based on No Scholarship or Truth.

The Ayat you chose to give some "insight": are from the Surah of the Family of Imran, and reveals to the Believer:
1) That if Mankind wants to love their Creator that they must follow Mohamed-accept Monotheism, follow AlQur'aan and the Sunnah.
2) That Allaah chose Adaam, noahNuh, the family of abrahamIbrahim and the family of Imran over all of mankind.
3) That in the case of the family of Imran, the birth of IsaIbnMaryam is an easy thing for Allaah, as Allaah says Be and anything is.

Your idea of what Allaah says in SuratTulAlImran should be refined, studied and translated in English with some knowledge--and your point, if there is one, should include the previous few ayat--so that an english reader can understand better.
I have also included a better meaning of the Ayat you present.
3:31. Say to mankind Mohamed; "If you truly love Allâah then follow me and accept Islâamic Monotheism, follow AlQur’âan and the Sunnah, Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

32. Say Muhammad; "Obey Allâah and the Messenger; But if they turn away, then Allâah does not like the disbelievers.

33. Allâah chose Adaam, noahNűh, the family of abrahamIbrâheem and the family of ‘Imrân above the ‘Âlamîn (mankind and jinn)

34. Offspring, one of the other, and Allâah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

35. (Remember) when the wife of ‘Imrân said: "O my Lord! I have vowed to You that the child that is in my womb to be dedicated for Your services free from all worldly work; to serve Your Place of worship, so accept this from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing."

36. Then when she gave birth to her child; maryMaryam (Mary)], she said: "O my Lord! I have given birth to a female child," - and Allâh knew better what she brought forth, - "And the male is not like the female, and I have named her maryMaryam, and I seek refuge with Allâah for her and for her offspring from Shaitân (Satan), the outcast."

37. So Allâah accepted her with great acceptance. He made her grow in a good manner and put her under the care of Zakariyâ. Every time he entered Al-Mihrâb(house of prayer); to visit her, he found her with sustenance. He said: "O Maryam! From where have you gotten this?" She said, "This is from Allâah." Verily, Allâah provides sustenance to whom He wills, without limit."

Better Understanding:
3:42. And remember when the angels said: "O Maryam ! Verily, Allâah has chosen you, purified you from polytheism and disbelief, and chosen you above the women of the ‘Âlamîn (mankind and jinn)."
3:42 And when the angels said: O Mary, surely Allah has chosen thee and purified thee and chosen thee above the women of the world.


43. O Maryam! "Submit yourself with obedience to Allâah, by worshipping none but Him Alone and prostrate yourself, and Irkâ‘i (bow down) along with Ar-Râki‘űn (those who bow down)."
3:43 O Mary, be obedient to thy Lord and humble thyself and bow down with those who bow.

44. This is a part of the news of the Ghaib (the news of the past nations of which you have no knowledge) which We reveal to Muhammad. You were not with them, when they cast lots with their pens as to which of them should be charged with the care of Maryam; nor were you with them when they disputed.
3:44 This is of the tidings of things unseen which We reveal to thee. And thou wast not with them when they cast their pens (to decide) which of them should have Mary in his charge, and thou wast not with them when they contended one with another.

45. Remember when the angels said: "O Maryam! Verily, Allâah gives you the glad tidings of a Word; "Be!" - and he was! ‘Îsâ the son of Maryam from Him, his name will be the Messiah ‘the son of Maryam, held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allâah."
3:45 When the angels said: O Mary, surely Allah gives thee good news with a word from Him (of one) whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, worthy of regard in this world and the Hereafter, and of those who are drawn nigh (to Allah),

46. "He will speak to the people in the cradle and in manhood, and he will be one of the righteous."
3:46 And he will speak to the people when in the cradle and when of old age, and (he will be) one of the good ones.

47. She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me." He said: "So it will be for Allâah creates what He wills. When He has decreed something, He says to it only: "Be!" - and it is.
3:47 She said: My Lord, how can I have a son and man has not yet touched me? He said: Even so; Allah creates what He pleases. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, Be, and it is.

48. And Allâah will teach ‘Îsâ, the Book and Al-Hikmah, the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom, and the torah-Taurât and the gospel-Injeel.

3:48 And He will teach him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel:

49. And will make him‘Îsâ; a Messenger to the Children of Israel, telling them: "I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I design for you out of clay, a figure like that of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allâah’s Leave; and I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by Allâah’s Leave. And I inform you of what you eat, and what you store in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for you, if you believe.

3:49 And (make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I determine for you out of dust the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with Allah’s permission, and I heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission; and I inform you of what you should eat and what you should store in your houses. Surely there is a sign in this for you, if you are believers.

50. And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Taurât, and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord. So fear Allâah and obey me.

3:50 And (I am) a verifier of that which is before me of the Torah, and I allow you part of that which was forbidden to you; and I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me.

Tuesday, December 8th 2009 at 5:57PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Steven,

You have avoided answering my question, whether you believe that Allah God anointed Mr. Elijah Muhammad and decided that tackling Robert was easier. It is human nature to take on what is easier than what is difficult, that is how God created man. However, the drawback to taking on things easier is that you never advance.

Let me say this to you, Robert is pointing out what most ignorant Negroes do and that is to reinterpret a thing according to their personal likeness. For instance, the interpretation that you gave is pure hogwash, you said this, “I will only point out that they are a sign of the Black man and woman, the Hon. Elijah Muhammad (and Min. Farrakhan). Mary respresent a woman who has not been touched by a 'real' man and the Black woman in America is the same way. Her man was destroyed, but God (In Person would come) and impregnat her (Black America) and she would give birth to The Messiah.”

The Quran does not say what you have said. Steven, you must leave things as you found them in their original context because that is what the context means.

Robert is more knowledgeable than any of you (Siebra, Irma and Ms. Burgess) are in Al Quran and Al Islam, so when these people tell you, Steven to preach is the dumb praising the dumb.

Robert phrases it as ignorant slave Negroes makes up stuff to believe, and that is true. Remember that either Dr. Fard Muhammad and/or Mr. Elijah Muhammad made up the Mothership nonsense based on Prophet Ezekiel’s wheel, well Prophet Ezekiel had no idea that in the future to men would come along and distort his vision. His vision had everything to do with Jewish people and no other people.

Lastly, it is baffling to me how two Black Americans who are descendents of slaves could argue with each other over Arabian scriptures brought to them by one of their own kind, Prophet Mohammed. Remember that Allah God only raises up prophets from among their own kind and Prophet Mohammed is not a Black American who is a descendent of slaves. Black Americans today have their own prophet. I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become free. I am he who missed the Elijah Muhammad said would come after him even though he does not personally know me.

Since Allah God rose up from among the Arabian people in Arab Prophet and the Quran, was written about Prophet Mohammed, do you not think that Allah God would do the same for Black Americans? What is wrong to have the feeling that God would raise up a prophet like Moses from among us, Black Americans that would lead us out of subjugation, oppression, racism and into sovereignty on a portion of this continent since God has done these things for other people?

Tell me what you think.


Wednesday, December 9th 2009 at 9:08AM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Irma,

Historically Jesus genealogy could be traced back to Moses that makes them both Jews, racially; Middle Eastern has nothing to do with it. Therefore, it is not a matter of my personal choice to believe this. I believe it because I have to and why I have to believe it is because it is true.

I am a person that feels bad and shameful when I am wrong and that is why I have different from you. When I say something, it will stand.

So, I them glad that you corrected yourself and said, Jews.

Anyway, I believe that Buddha who is of Indian has full control of your past, present and future. If you had, any wisdom you would be better off allowing one of your own kind to have full control over your past, present and future instead of Buddha of India.

The old slave master taught the slave Negroes not to trust in and follow any one of his own kind. The old slave master psychologically, subliminally and insidiously had forbidden the Negroes to trust in themselves and God. The dumb Negroes had to believe that it would be someone else who would save them other than one of their own kind. That is why Robert is a Muslim, Siebra is a Muslim, Steven Muhammad is a Muslim, you are a N.D. Buddhists, the rest are Christians and all of you are dumb Negroes are descendents of slaves. Consequentially, when we look at the work today that the old slave master has accomplished, we must indeed admit that the old slave master has done a good job.

Does not Robert believe Mohammed will save him? Do you not believe that Buddha will save you? Do not the Black Christians believe that Jesus will save them? So, am I right?

Pharaoh did the same thing to the Hebrew people’s mind, that the old slave master done to the Negroes’ minds. When Moses came upon his people and realize how dumb and ignorant Pharaoh had turned the Hebrew people into, Moses knew he had a very steep hill to climb. I have that same steep hill to climb starting with you, Ms. Irma, am I right. However, as God was with Moses so God is with me.

As for myself, I believe in God and Black Americans who are my people. My religion is “The Salvation of God for the Sovereignty of Black Americans who is Descendents of Slaves.” Do you understand the point that I am making?

Okay.

Wednesday, December 9th 2009 at 3:23PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Irma,

Even though Buddha means the enlightened one so could one of you own be an enlightened one as well. Therefore, since one of, your own is also enlightened and Buddha who is of India is enlightened, then whom should you choose to enlighten you? Should it not be one of your own that you would want to enlighten you?

As I said before, the old slave master trained dumb slave Negroes not to accept anything of themselves and God. The old slave master taught the dumb Negroes only to embrace things that were not of themselves and God.

Did not young Black girls prefer White dolls to Black dolls? So, am I right about the things that I say? Of course, you know that I am right.

Well, do you not think you have done just that, when you embraced Buddha of India to enlighten you? Did not Siebra do the same when she embraced the Islamic religion of Arabia? Did not Robert do the same when he embraced Prophet Mohammed of Arabia? Has not a vast majority of Black Americans embraced Jesus a Jewish man of Nazareth as their Lord and Savior?

Consequentially, is not the old slave master very successful in making 41 million Black Americans dumb, deaf and blind Negroes, that when our genuine prophet of God comes to redeem us we will vigorously reject him since he would be one of us?

What say you?

Wednesday, December 9th 2009 at 10:28PM
robert powell
co-owner at self
Soloman pleeze

Islaamic Scholarship is 1430 years old--around 600 after the death of the christian"God"-----

If you are old, thats ok, Scholarship and Reference are at your fingertips- you have a computer----

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most truthful of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Mohamed, and the most evil of things are those which are newly-invented.” And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever innovates anything in this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), that is not part of it will have it rejected.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 2697; Muslim, no. 1718). According to a version narrated by Muslim, “Whoever doe anything that is not in accordance with this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), will have it rejected.”




Tuesday, December 22nd 2009 at 10:16AM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Mr. Solomon,

Both you and Robert are wrong and this is why.

Firstly, I will start with Elijah. Allah God neither raised nor anointed Mr. Elijah Muhammad. Mr. Fard Muhammad a man of Pakistani origin raised and converted Elijah to be an Arabian Muslim and adapt Islam as his religion. Remember that Dr. Fard Muhammad was a follower of Prophet Mohammed, intended that Elijah be the same as well, and convert as many Black Americans as he could to the religion of Islam.

Black Americans cannot be Muslims since we are not Arabian people. Our prophet must be one of our own kinds. For instance, Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man and Allah raised him up out of his own kind. Prophet Moses was Israelite and Allah God raised him up out of his own kind, the children of Israel. Prophet Jesus was Jewish and Allah God raised him up out of his own kind, the house of Israel. Consequentially, our prophet has been raised up out of our own kind, Black American who is a descendent of slaves.

What our prophet will bring to us must be new since Black Americans are a new breed or races of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery. Black Americans are people that came from the breeding process between White American men of British descent and African slave women. For example, the children that Ms. Sally Hamming had for President Thomas Jefferson since she was his slave woman, the children were descendents of slaves just as we are today. Our race is approximately 500 years old. We neither are Africans nor are we Caucasian. We are a new breed or races of people that has emerged out of the ashes of slavery.

I am Black America’s first genuine prophet that will lead Black Americans out of subjugation and into sovereignty on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Mr. Elijah Muhammad could not have been anointed of God since he believed and aligned himself with what belong to the Arabian people while he, Elijah was a Black American who is a descendent of slaves.

Next, you said this, “There is no
need for a successor when a man has got Divine truth and has brought
you face to face with God.”

This is not true. Elijah did not meet God face-to-face. Elijah met a man of Pakistani origin who misled Elijah to believe that he was Allah in person. Allah is not human. In other words, could you imagine Mr. Fard Muhammad contracting a venereal disease and having to go to a city health clinic to get penicillin shot in his behind that Mr. Elijah Muhammad would help walk him to a taxi and they both go to Elijah’s house where Ms. Clara Muhammad would aid Allah back to good health? Such a thought would be preposterous, am I right.

Mr. Solomon, Mr. Farrakhan and his followers of going to come to follow me. I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans would become real people in this world.

I am to Black Americans what Moses was to the Children of Israel.

Now, Robert is as wrong as you are. Robert believes that he is a Muslim. Prophet Mohammed coined the word Muslim for the sole purpose of labeling those of his people that were converted to Islam from paganism. Prophet Mohammed is responsible for the word Muslim, the religion of Islam and the holy Quran. These items specifically belong to the Arabian people and not to Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. We presently have our own Prophet in our religious book is forthcoming.

In addition, Mr. Farrakhan is just a blind leader. It will take a prophet or an anointed one of God to bring about what we need, which is sovereignty or complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. We need no less than what God did for Moses and the Children of Israel almost 4000 years ago.

Everything that I say to you is true and it is going to happen.

Tell me what you think.




Wednesday, December 23rd 2009 at 12:55AM
robert powell
co-owner at self
HIS
Muslim---a transliteration for translation of an Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic term that means one who Believes in The MonotheisticThought given to Adaam through Ibraheem(as) through IsaIbnMaryam through Mohamed(as) by Allaah --- The Creator


Wednesday, December 23rd 2009 at 4:10PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Robert,

I am a monotheistic believer. Furthermore, it is an understanding that was in me from birth. I did not get this feeling our understanding from Adam, Abraham, Mohammed or Jesus. If I never knew about the men, I would still be a believer in one God.

While others were taught to believe in one God, I instinctively always knew there is but one God.

Tell me what you think.


Wednesday, December 23rd 2009 at 5:44PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Mr. Solomon,

You asked this question, “Do ANY of you take the Hadith to equal the words of Allah?”

It should have all the consideration due to a genuine prophet anointed by Allah God.

However, the Hadith has nothing to do with Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. Prophet Mohammed was specifically sent to the Arabian people and no other people, am I right. Likewise, Moses was specifically sent to the children of Israel and no other people.

Wednesday, December 23rd 2009 at 8:56PM
robert powell
co-owner at self
You say, "Do ANY of you take the Hadith to equal the words of Allah?"

Allaah is Creator, and Mohamed(as) is the Greatest of created things.

But the question seems strange and if I can note some Words of Allaah and Hadeeth, it can illuminate my answer.

Of course Islaamic and Scholarship of AlQur'aan is the Duty of the Believer and for 1430 years many great Muslims have given the Believers of 2009 clear references and MonotheisticThought to explain the things we need for our Belief.

Allaah says In Sűratul Niss 'aa
136. O you who believe! Believe in Allâah, and His Messenger Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم), and Al Qur’âan, which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before him; and whosoever disbelieves in Allâah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away.
150. Verily, those who disbelieve in Allâah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allâah and His Messengers; by believing in Allâah and disbelieving in His Messengers saying, "We believe in some but reject others," and wish to adopt a way in between.

151. They are in truth disbelievers. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment.

In Sűratul Mâ’idah
15. O people of the Scripture-Jews and Christians! Now has come to you Our Messenger Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and pass over; leaving out without explaining much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allâah a light-Prophet Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم) and a plain Book-Al Qur’âan).

In Sűratul An’âm
149. Say: "With Allâah is the perfect proof and argument, the Oneness of Allâh, the sending of His Messengers and His Holy Books to mankind; had He so willed, He would indeed have guided you all."

In Sűratul A‘râf
158. Say; Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم): "O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allâah - to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). It is He Who gives life and causes death. So believe in Allâah and His Messenger (Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم), the Prophet , who believes in Allâah and His Words- this Qur’âan), the torahTaurât and the gospelInjeel and also Allâah’s Word: "Be!" - and he was as jesusÎsâibnMaryam, عليهما السلام], and follow him so that you may be guided.

In Sűratul Taubah
71. The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ’- helpers, supporters, friends, protectors of one another; they ask the people to Al-Ma‘rűf - Monotheism and all that Islâam orders one to do, and forbid people from Al-Munkar - polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give the Zakât, and obey Allâah and His Messenger. Allâah will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allâah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

Ahl Lal Sunnah follow and practice with Authenically researched Hadeeth
Sunnah means way or practice and when Islaam was to be taken to other places than Makkah and Medina and other culture and languages, Mohamed(as) told one of the most trusted and knowledgeable Muslims-------Muadth bin Jabal
He was appointed by the'Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم of Islaam as the first establisher or deliver of Deen to al-Yemen.
Muadth had a farewell audience with the Prophet, which occupies an important place in the history of Islamic jurisprudence. The Prophet enquired "How will you decide the cases?"

"I shall decide according to the Book of Allaah", replied Muadth,

"And if there is nothing on the subject in the Book of Allaah", asked the Prophet.

"Then according to the practice - Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah", replied Muadth.

"And if there is nothing in my practice?" enquired the Prophet.

“Then I will use my own judgment added Muadth.

Thereupon the Apostle of God said, "Praise be to Allaah who enabled the envoy of the Apostle of God to say what has satisfied me"

So, we know that created is not 'equal' to The Creator but Allaah is patient with believers and merciful to the created human being and has given us Mohamed(as), his life and His Practice as a Perfect Believer to mold our own lives.


Wednesday, December 23rd 2009 at 10:40PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Greetings to all,

Jesus, Moses, Mohammed and I say the same thing, that God is our source of guidance and revenue to our own people.

However, the prophets are not all from the same race or kind. Each people must hearken onto his or her own prophet for perfect guidance.

Allah feeds each people from their prophet risen up by Allah God. This fundamental truth is plain to see.

A person who are of one race, yet hearkens unto a prophet of a different race are surely blind and without guidance. Those people are also disbelievers in Allah’s ways, am I wrong. These types of people have also rejected Allah when they have rejected their own prophet raised up by Allah for them, am I in error?

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 6:33AM
robert powell
co-owner at self
of course you are in error harry,

if you are, in YourMind a prophet to the monster that the europeanSlaveMaster -Dr. Frankenstein Made, then OK---
but then I believe that you should also be the prophet to Dr. Frankenstein --
cause the monster is his Made object and in 2009 still accepts Dr. Frankenstein as maker of monsters' life, and monsters mind.......

tell me for the last time you are America's prophet.......

Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 8:28AM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Greetings Robert,

You said this, “of course you are in error harry,”

But, as I read more, I was hoping to see something factual that would show that I am in error. What I saw was something about Dr. Frankenstein and what I said had nothing to do Dr. Frankenstein.

Perhaps, you are in denial of the truth I say. You just do not like the truth I say.

We know prophets that Allah God has risen up were racially different and the only reason for that is that they came to their own people and not to all people, am I right.

Once you understand this fundamental truth, you will understand that Prophet Mohammed is not your Prophet. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Therefore, I am your Prophet.

Your rejection of me is understandable. The Arabian people had rejected Prophet Mohammed. The children of Israel had rejected Prophet Moses. The house of Israel had rejected Prophet Jesus. Why should it be any different that Black Americans would not reject me as well?

However, in time to come you and all Black Americans will accept me. My task is to lead Black Americans who are descendents of slaves into sovereignty or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

White America will be hard-pressed; nevertheless, they will eventually be happy that we are a sovereign people on the same continent with them.

However, let us not forget the main point. Allah has risen up prophets of different races threw out the annals of time.

Tell me what you think.



Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 9:05AM
robert powell
co-owner at self
harry harry harry,

you can not comprehend - the English language that I write

in English literature, Madam Shelly wrote a novel and since prophets many times speak in parables and metaphors I like this story to tell, metaphorically speaking the story of America.

your 'white american' is Dr. Frankenstein
your 'black american' is the Monster

2009 Dr. Frankenstein does not know what to do with the Monster, is the Monster to go to jail, is the Monster to live in poverty, is the Monster a golfer, is the Monster able to wear pants correctly OR is the Monster-President.

And I just ask you since you know what to do with the Monster, why wouldnt you the prophet for the Monster;
now be THE PROPHET for Dr. Frankenstein

My own conclusion, cause you are no otherMinds Prophet is that Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama is a Changed Dr. Frankenstein and he is the medicine that will cure The Monster and the Monster Maker.

Mozell--can we write a book on this theme?


Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 11:27AM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Greetings Robert,

Okay, I understand now what you are saying about Dr. Frankenstein and what you are saying have some validity.

However, what I said to you about the many prophets that Allah God had risen up were of different races is because they were sent to their own people and not to all people. In other words, since Prophet Mohammed was Arab he was sent to the Arabian people. Like wise, since Moses was Israelite he was sent to the Children of Israel. Lastly, since I am a Black American who is a descendent of slaves, Allah God have sent me to Black Americans. It baffles me that you would reject this fundamental truth staring you right in your eyes.

Nevertheless, my point that the prophets were of different races has nothing to do with your issue of Dr. Frankenstein, am I right. Since you cannot tell me that I am wrong, you try to cover up my point with this Dr. Frankenstein nonsense. What you ought to do is tell me that I am wrong or that I am right.

Have I made a valid point that the reason the prophets were racially different was that they came only to their own people and not to all people?

Many BIA members read my comments and they see that you are not able to overcome my divine anointing even though they do not post a comment.

What say you?

Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 1:51PM
robert powell
co-owner at self
Answer

cause europeanChristians are a pagan people that have taken a paganInterpretation in a paganLanguage from a paganTranslation of events that happened 2009 years ago under paganColonized jewishPalestine...

the pagans made it up----using the paganRomanColonizers Calendar-

Thats the best answer i can give you in the paganChristian language.

and to Harry you are in error.
Mohamed(as) is the Last/Greatest created prophets for the entire Family of Adaam!


Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 3:25PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Mr. Solomon,

I believe that you are missing my fundamental point.

You and I know that the many prophets that Allah has risen up were racially different. You should know by common sense that the reason they were racially different is that they came only to their people and not to all people.

Therefore, before you could present anything to me concerning Mr. Wallace Fard Muhammad, you must first clear his legitimacy that he was one of us, a Black American that was a descendent of slaves; otherwise your argument is groundless.

Again, Allah clearly states that God only raises up prophets from among their own kind. Mr. Wallace Fard Muhammad is not one of our kinds.

I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. You are intelligent enough to rationalize that Dr. Fard Muhammad deliberately misled Mr. Elijah Muhammad. Consequentially, Mr. Elijah Muhammad unintentionally misled you, Mr. Farrakhan and thousands of Black Americans as well.

Dr. Fard Muhammad was a follower of Prophet Mohammed and his hopes was that Mr. Elijah Muhammad would make Muslims of all Black Americans. In addition, no Black American could ever be a genuine Muslim since Muslims are restricted only to Arabian people since Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man.

Prophet Mohammed coined the word Muslim to label those of his Arabian people that were converted from paganism to Islam. Prophet Mohammed calls them Muslims since they were no longer believers in paganism, but now they are believers in the will of God, which is Islam. All of this that happened 1400 years ago has nothing to do with Black Americans today who are descendents of slaves. We are not Arabian people. The battles mentioned in the Quran that Prophet Mohammed’s people had among themselves, had nothing to do with us. Am I making any sense with you?

I am the way and everything I say is going to happen. The Muslims and Christians are going to come together under my divine task to lead us into sovereignty on a portion of this continent. In addition, neither Christianity nor Islam will you all take into our Promise Land. You will give these religions back to their rightful owner and pick up your own religion, which is “The Salvation of God for the Sovereignty of Black Americans Who Are Descendents of Slaves”

We will become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. White America will be hard-pressed nevertheless, they will be happy for our sovereignty on the same continent that they are.

Remember, that my main point is that W. F. Muhammad is not of our kind. Only one from among us that God has risen up could lead us and that is I. Am I making any sense with you?

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 3:32PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Greetings Robert,

You cannot prove that I am wrong. Therefore, you blindly reject the truth.

I have been giving you the clear reason why the many prophets were racially different. The reason for the racial difference is that they came only to the people and not to all people.

The Quran clearly states that Allah raises up Prophets only from among their own kind. Therefore, Prophet Mohammed was the prophet only for the already being people, which made him the first and last Prophet of the Arabian people and not to all people.

I am the first and hope to be the last Prophet of Black Americans who is descendents of slaves.

You are like a child after learning the truth and do not want to leave Prophet Mohammed to embrace your true prophet of God. When you reject me, you are also rejecting God. You are a disbeliever. It would be the same with the Arabian people that when the disbelievers rejected Prophet Mohammed they also rejected Allah, am I right.

Tell me what you think.

Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 3:43PM
Harry Watley
const. contractor/ retired at self
Hello Mr. Solomon,

You said this, “And Broter can not believe Alah would send a message to us. Even if, you deny Mr. W. > F. Muhammad being God what, EXACTLY do you not ARGREE WITH CONCERNING, THE EVIL acts of Cauccasians?”

Mr. Solomon, you need to stay on track. The issue is not about the evils of the Caucasian people. The issue is that even if you block out Mr. W. F. Muhammad Mr. Elijah Muhammad was not anointed of God. Now, how we know that Mr. Elijah Muhammad was not anointed is because Mr. W. F. Muhammad who was a Muslim and made Elijah into a Muslim as well led Elijah around as a puppy on a chain. In other words, when God raises up a prophet, that prophet could only be guided and inspire by God. Do you not understand the fundamental truth that I am stating?

I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become real people in this world today.

Again, what I am trying to show you is that Mr. Elijah Muhammad was not anointed and it will take an anointed one of God to lead Black Americans into sovereignty or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. So, forget about the evils of the Caucasian people.

Become acquainted with your prophet.

Tell me what you think.







Thursday, December 24th 2009 at 4:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
brother Solomon, I have already said that I would no longer take part in contributing to the bad behavior of some of those on this site whose only purpose is to derail blogs of others and demean the comments of others by any means necessary, be the comments agree with them or not...

But, I do not believe that it is rewarding bad behavior if "I" comment once and a while when you remind me of the times "I" have seen and heard others TOTALLY regreting WHY they had challenged Minister Farrakhan in the first place(smile)

This my brother you have reminded me in your comments on the blogs of brother Steven's and on your own blogs when these professional disruptive-distructive people come after you.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
As, " A rose by any other name still smells just as sweet" ; does not seeing the word "GREETINGS" all of a sudden like this right after brother Solomon comes on the scene, can be taken as coping him?!?

...and "I" do believe this is a sign of ADORATION?!?(smile)Thanks for this blog brother Steven...

...................................HAPPY HOLIDAY TODAY...................to all.
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
Harry you must tr y to get some way to get a larger brain so the you can absorb emore that this limited ability to be stuck on this slave master bit of yours. There is more to my life at least than trying to take control of or to life or to define what others want or need. As far as I am concerned the only person that i kow who, what they say except me is only typed words as a reality,the rest I accept by way of trust the all others are my equal...

Not exact but my equal in the ability to make their own decission as to what they need/want for their survival, security and happinss...

You keep bringing up these dolls but are you talking about the time when there were no black dolls to be brought for your children at christmas time or birthdays????'are you talking about then as well as now when they could not attend the schools in their neighborhoods?Or are you talking about the time when you had a choice to live by dringking out of the Black water fountin or hung for drinking out of the white water fountian...how many of your friends and family were hung for not staying in their place or just because today or yesterday or last century, Harry?!?...

It you belief that I embrace the Budda of India, dispite the countless times I say I worship no kind of buddah gods and has not had a religious stature image in my home since I stoped being a practicing Catholic, prophet Harry?

How can someone preach/teach the truth that comes from God while at the same time not being able to accept the truth in the first place...

How and where can you led me when you keep telling me and everyone who ask you where are you going and you have no answer at all except it will happen in the future...

Even those who worship the buddah of India have a purpose and know what it is they are after in the here and now and in the next life while you have not even this in this life, and in this time...and yet you say they are lacking,poor thing...

Now if you had not taken off what I actually said about enlightenment then you would have nothing to say about this issue in the context you put it all in now would you...I said that enlightment meant one who has happiness that no obstilce can take away from them...what can one ask for than nothing they can not handle like as we say as Buddhist, "turning poison into medicine" or actually happy wnen they have an obsticle in their path i life, because the more obsticles you over come then the closer you are to becoming a Buddah???

Again, the only way i would ever not want to be me is maybe in the last lives that I have correcting bad karma to reach this life with such happiness for me in it...and you expect me to give this up along with my PAID FOR land in this country called America for one you my have someday that even you can not prove,while I can.(smile)

In my out look you are looeing for someone who is looking for less of an abusive master than the one they have in control of them right now and this is not me or MY OWN.LOL
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
And, Harry as you know by now when i get you to start lying to your own self, you know "I" then a lways leave you alone...you know as well as I do and because you hae seen me say that statement about middle-eastern Jews so many, many times you know I was not correcting myself as you tied to tell yourself, but that it was because i had left it off...(smile)

What happened this time as you never even bothered to say you had no idea what I was talking about as your excuse to get away from me?(smile)

See what you get each tiime you try to attack my chosen leader?!? but, I know you will never give up on trying to get me to call you names as a proper form of communications now will you or robert?

No, I know almost nothing about what Steven/robert are exchanging, but I do know from watching Minister farrakhan that this is how he hndles his attackers by not calling them names in a personal subjctive outburst, he hits them with facts of force them to try and explain things they know nothing at all about...so i try to learn from those like Siebra and Steven and even robert and you... I place no limits on knowledge or personal prejudices as you do up as barriers to my learning something new...KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.(smile)i also know the differences in knowledge and wisdom also, Harry!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
Harry and what part of anyone but you having full control over you does not say Slavery?????what is the difference is it in having you over my lifeand in control of it has you so determined to refuse to accept my always saying that I am in total contorl of my own life . Or better yet, I gatehr you did not say taht Buddha has control over my life...Harry do you have any idea what the word Buddha means...it means on who is enlightened now how does education into how to bring happiness an the ablility to not allow any thing to get you down tells you taht this is someone in control of my life.

and, if you did not always ingor evey thing I say than you will know that I am a N.D. Buddhist which forbidds anyone OUT side of my pysical body and mind to have any kinds of controls over my life. but, then you have no use for any ng but what can fit in you small brain and this is too big to fit as you keep proving to me with eah mssage you sent to m about me...the INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVES IN HER OWN PAID FOR NATIO ON A PIECE OF AMERICA...good luck in someone allowing you to get yours...and by the way prophet Harry "i' notice you do not come after me on my own, my own terf/ blogs any more.LOOOOOOOOooooooooooooL(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
...middle-eastern Jews...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
Harry, it is just fine with me, a N.D. Buddhist if you choose to believe that Jesus, Moses were W-H-I-T-E Christians and not middle-eastern..This is your God and Man rights to freedom of speech and thought. And, to be in your own world of reality....

It is your right to refuse to believe that "I" am happy, secure and content in (living in 'this' life time) my life dispite your being determined to believe that you can do a better job of it than me...(smile)

"I" have what you want/need/ demanding/ seeking which is full control of my past, present and my future...or so you keep saying.(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
As part of the historical facts as related to America and Americans as well as African-Americans robert, you may be correct in your saying that Christianity has nothing to do with slavery, but and because America has had only Chattel slavery that never could have been made a part of the history of America if not for the POPe putting his hand on the moral rights to have it made LEGAL (in America)and used his Bible to prove that this was in the Holy Bible...(you know about how the Africans were not human and they could only get souls and be able to go to heaven only if they were made Christians)

and, if you are against this being taught in the African and African-American History study department (all over America) then you had better stop paying your taxes like long before my recieving my degrees, second college/ UCD degree in my major in African and American History study with a minor in Philosophy(smile)

I know that you and yours havno use for any thing that will maybe make a less of a tunnel vison reality, I just had to speak that truth...FREEDOM OF SPEECH you know on a post not of your creations and all that.(smile)

But, to me being a proud Black person only can be experienced by an open mind and is so very, very sad when Minister Farrakhan says his last words in a speech while you are right there in the audence...I experienced this while a student at UCD and I till treasuer that ticket from his apperance in Oakland years ago...And, there were even White men there singing his praise..sorry robert and Harry, but I am so happy every time I see a speech of Minister Farrakhan on this site.(smile)

Now hopefully this will allow you to undetand why I never turn against you or tose like you who try to put my chosen leader down...or have you ever seen my leader say an unkind word to those like you????????I HAVE LEARNED FROM THE BEST JUST AS OUR PRESIDENT HAS...(smle)

#Note:

Catholics tend to call themselves Catholics not Christians(I know as this was the religion I was born into) and why I began my comments with your msy be being right about Christians& Slavery, robert!!!!!LOL
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
Steven, please do continue as you ended my day yesterday on such a great positive note, you have just begun my day to day the same way...

So please continue to preach, brother preach theses truths.(smile)It is so refreshing and comforting to learn about this...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
Steven, you just made my day.(smile)

There is nothing better for the heart and for the mind than to come in touch with a proud, Black youth in order to brighten up ones spirits on a day like to day/every day(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
UC, Davis class of 1992
I read this message and I enjoyed it as I do all of Minister Frakhann's messages...and I have done exactly what I always do...if I can use some of the things that he believes in and can do so on my own needs to fit into my life. Those that go against my beliefs that I m in control of my causes and effects on my enviornment then I make them a part of my life...Those that I can not use to make my life happy, safe and secure in my own identity, I reject...I do this for me as I have nothing in my reality that says I must do any thing different than be open and honest .(smile)

Thank you for this beautiful and educational message from my chosen Black leader...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
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