I Need Your Opinion,
Posted By: Harry Watley on December 16, 2009 |
TJ Holmes, a CNN reporter did a documentary, “Walking in My Shoes.” The documentary was about Black school age children facing death from one of their own going to and from schools on the south and west side of Chicago every day.
Now, many reasons were given to explain this dire situation. One of which is that Black parents teaches their children to fight back.
So you could imagine five parents each teaching their child to fight back, essentially is teaching that fighting our kind is an acceptable way of life, am I right.
However, this type of savage and primitive thinking does not go on with White children, why is that?
Finally, is Black people the people that White America has raised to be as we are today?
What is our permanent solution for Black Americans’ problems?
Tell me what you think.
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I feel that violence in the inner Chicago districts are more so gang related than corral disagreements that result in physical violence. The parents for the most part, are into drugs or gang's too, the differences between how Caucasian's raise there children in that atmosphere, as to oppose the some African American ways is that they distance themselves from that negative behavior.
If you live in a troubled area, you move. It's that simple.. though what you see now is the rational that it's okay to stay in crime riddled area's. It's a circle of blame, parents blaming teachers.. teachers blaming parents. The gangs are the problem, and the ways both parents and teachers handle it in part is the wrong way.
I feel the school system never teaches about the most important lessons in life, but focus in trivial things like math, science.. or to most of these kids useless things. They need to teach about gang/gun violence, parenting.. health class needs to actually talk about STD's and the statistics. School's need behavioral classes, to teach how kids should vent anger instead of building it up into acts of violence. A person can only go so long holding it in.. Maybe that would take the levy off our correction systems abit. 1 in 99 Americans behind bars is unacceptable.
Overall though, its the youth that need to recognize what's right from wrong and make the decisions. Education is a factor in how they choose their lifestyle, behavior.. What I see now though is vicious antagonistic acts perpetrated to prove how "tough" you are, the girls are the same way. It's like the animal kingdom to some regards.. the kids aren't taking school seriously, and using it as a social event instead of it's purpose. It's so bad now, I can't imagine it being any worse..
Wednesday, December 16th 2009 at 1:58PM
It just brings more light on the issue of violence though, and I feel it needs to be addressed in the black community more. I don't believe "race" plays apart in violence specifically, unless it's a hate crime.
I see the role of Caucasians as beneficial to African American's development. The exact opposite of what you said. Culturally, I see less blacks taking responsibility but blaming others for the things that are happening. You can't say one thing, and go around doing another.. you understand this?
Lack of education, combined with so many factors brings on poverty.. and then as a excuse you haveto blame someone else for your wrong doings. Everything in America, the opportunity's, the education.. everything is equal. So you cannot say white people are holding back black people when clearly that's not the case.
Wednesday, December 16th 2009 at 6:04PM
You always refer to America as "white", we're not a white nation but the most diverse nation on planet earth. We learn together, not apart. I understand what generation your from, but you have no connection with modern youth. We're raised equally, unlike how you where. We're not indoctrinated with dogma like how you where being in the civil rights era. You misconstrued Martin Luther Kings words of equality, and misuse it to put blame on Caucasians to promote division. It's just not the way Caucasians are. I feel that if you want "sovereignty " so much, that you should go to Africa if that's where your great ancestors migrated from.
Again, you try to use the bible as justification for a radical view and it's distorted reality. Theirs a spiritual belief in religion.. and then theirs a political one. You cannot change modern policies, with religious beliefs. It's not a unifying cause. The backing will never be there.
You won't see any beneficial improvement in the African American community's until they take responsibility for their actions. You can't expect the correctional systems to do it when 53% of the time they re-offend. You break the law's, you're going to haveto answer to them. Why hasn't this clicked with you yet since you feel nothing is beneficial. You think they'll magically start abiding the law if they live in a all black nation ? I think not. I feel that it'll be more crime ridden then America is today.
You then go on to mention , Black American's must come to have their own hands on the helm of their destiny. I agree with that, and it can start at home with real education. Knowing the law's and not breaking them. Staying on the point of this topic and taking full responsibility for the violence they perpetrate.
You said the only education that's taught is "white" education. Again, I disagree with this we live in a country that has to be politically correct all the time not to offend others. They are taught on topic what every other kid is.. You're saying that theirs a white form of math, to black ? A white form of English, than a black form of English? The only thing you're probably thinking of is history class.. or what we call it social study's. We are taught the history of the world, America, and the important events. So again, your racial dogma doesn't apply here.
You completely ignore the part where I said taking responsibility. You twist it around into your same message as previously stated in "Well, Black Americans having complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent will permanently put an end to the blame game, am I right. " So, avoiding it doesn't mean you're right, it just means your turning your head the other way.
I want to know what in America is strictly "white" , since you're so obsessed with referring to America as white. What classifys Black America then ? Culturally, there is no difference at all other than the color of ones skin. So this is something that I'd like answered.
I completely disagree only Black American's can civilize other Black's. Obviously if that happen's , we get racism as you demonstrate. You want isolationism and separatism and that's not how the integrity of America is made up.
Wednesday, December 16th 2009 at 7:41PM
Just because the Declaration of Independence does not have any African American signatures, does not mean it's a "strictly white" abiding one. It apply's to all men, equally. It doesn't have any Asian, or Hispanics on it either. America was not as diverse then but it saw down the road and included this.
You haven't been proving many points so far.. A justification, for such a ordeal would require more evidence then a biblical prophecy, and a gimme ho' so the saying goes. Responsibility is the key to education and life lessons. Don't be deceived by primitive thinking of separation.
Sortof off topic, when physicists look at space.. for modern life, they break it up into 3 stages. Theirs type 1 civilization. type 2 civilization. and type 3 civilization of extraterrestrial life. Type one has harvested it's planetary power. They control everything about the planet. Cities on the ocean, and the world is united. Type 2 civilizations are stellar. They exhausted the powers of their planet and get the energy from their mother star. After they exult the power of their star they then go galactic. Harnessing the power of billions of stars. Humans right now are not even type one. They're type 0. In 100 years we will be type 1 Harry, and the planet will be united. It doesn't matter about country's with boarders can't you see this happening ?
America's prosperity does not belong to one ethnicity, it belongs to all of us. You own the land you buy or inherit. White's do not own this land, but you do. You have the say to do whatever you want with it. It's a democracy not a white totalitarianism state. You seem to suggest that America is a Caucasian ran totalitarian state am I correct with this assessment ?
You are still an American Harry. For instance, saying that White British people own all of Britain is a lie since the makeup also includes a significant amount of Arabic people. We live in a world that will someday not have boarders.
To your last paragraph I admittedly disagree with your justifications. The government policy also differs from your view, the landscape of America is diverse in nature, with the freedoms to own your own land. Their is no face to America. Millions of people migrated here, so you cannot split it up into different sectors to appease minority's to feel like majority's in their own atmosphere. We're past those primitive chorales.
I would like to know however, would you like to see everything split up into sectors? For instance, giving homos*xual people a nation of their own.. Asian American's a nation of their own.. Indians , Hispanics, etc. ? It's just taking a step backwards.
Thursday, December 17th 2009 at 8:54PM
Like the African Union, the majority is black and this intergovernmental organization promotes policy's governing that region. It's leaders behind the scenes are not diverse, because migrants never immigrated to there. We will live in a world one day without boarders. The South American Union, and North American Union are steps into this direction. Race and ethnicity hold no grounds and nobody will be judged on these principals.
Chinese would not be labeled on a IQ test, unless it was Han Chinese.. which you haveto assume American's won't know that. It would not be on an IQ test, but the correct label is Asian. Asian ethnicity for Chinese.
I would also like to give you a quick history lesson. George Washington was not the first president of the United States. He was the first president of the ratified constitution, we had 16 presidents who served 1 year term limits as delegates to the Continental Congress. John Hanson was the first president and organizer of the makeup of the constitution. He was the first elected, and the 7 other heads that came after had various backrounds. Not the term "English White" that you stated earlier. It's all about perspective. If you choose to see that the Continental Congress and the Articles of Confederation setup our Constitution of the United States, that was later ratified and made the articles of Confederation obsolete. The people and power transferred to what we see today.
Country's are "owned" depending on what way the governing body operates. If you live in a Democratic country, where the people make the decisions.. then you get the United States. If you live in a Fascists Dictatorship where the head of state's corrupt, and improvement with majority opposition is suppressed then you get Mugabe in Zimbabwe. This dream you hold of a all black country would probably look like that.
I asked you why wouldn't he own the land, if he lives on it.. he bought it, and the deed to that land is his. You're saying it's not, which is unfounded and an attempt to disprove that ethnicity has nothing to do with owning land in the United States. You said that was what you where saying, but you did not answer it.
Eminent Domain happens in every country in rare incidents where a citizen owns that land and the government for whatever the reason needs it. In America if this happens, they are paid off extensively. Land isn't just seized and you get kicked out and the rug taken under you. We also see this if the civilians are in danger, or threatened by a external threat maybe environmentally based. Unless your house has been foreclosed on, in that case you never even owned it. The bank did and you where paying it off. How many Eminent Domain seizures do you see happening ? NONE ! !! America does not operate like that. Again, if you owe the bank money and you cannot pay for your house then it's not your land, it's belongs to the bank.
Black's have been sovereign since the Emancipation of Proclamation. Slavery existed here before the United States, and the Union ended it. The Civil Rights era brought forth even more equality aswell. Having present day civilians who are innocent, pay for historical injustices is wrong like you say to Eminent Domain. But in your case, You want to take away White people's homes and give them to Black people in your "Black Sovereignty on this continent" Dogma. You want to turn the entire former Confederate States into your "all black nation" and that's what's wrong with your primordial thinking of racial indoctrination.
You can raise any animal, anything from the day it is born.. to how you like. For instance, I saw an article a Tiger, a Lion, and a Bear all grew up with each other and live together in a zoo. They are an family and you would never see this in the wild. Same goes with your racial thinking, you where never around white people.. you grew up with racial tensions, and this is what it resulted to. It's hard to rewind the dead set ways you go about thinking, even if wrong but I know your better than that.
Fidel Castro took control by a military coup, with brute force. After federalizing the Casino's, and American endeavors in Cuba alot of things where lost. Cuba has since became a poor nation. The differences between eminent domain and federalization is that the US pays it's civilians while the dictatorship of Cuba owns everything.
I'm telling you to take responsibility. Learn about things that do not involve race, open yourself to new idea's. You're a stubborn person with racial tensions. It's sad you go through life looking at it like this, I just hope you will recognize what's right infront of you.
This is now the 6th time I've told you I am not white. From here on out I will refer to you as Harold. It sounds like a proper name for a grumpy old senile man.. so , it fits you rather well.
You are probably the least educated person I've met on this website, not to knock your wisdom or credibility. It's just an opinion. Maybe you think you can get away with using disconnecting religious beliefs, as foundation to your claims. But in reality that's not a unifying force to give you any backing. The levity of your posts are more characterized as being humorous than anything ever being taken seriously.
If a Black man owns his land with the deed. It's his land. If a White man owns his land, and has a deed it's his land. The government cannot take that away from you because you own it. You can take them to court, it just simply cannot. The institution will pay you for your land above the value and even then you have the right to refuse and theirs been cases where the land was never seized or used. So there for .. we disagree on this particular subject. Ownership of land in the United States is well defined.
Friday, December 18th 2009 at 12:59AM
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