Documents show DHS improperly spied on Nation of Islam in 2007
Posted By: Steven Muhammad on December 19, 2009  By Spencer S.Hsu and Carrie Johnson The Department of Homeland Security improperly gathered intelligence on the Nation of Islam for eight months in 2007 when the leader of the black Muslim group, Louis Farrakhan, was in poor health and appeared to be yielding power, according to government documents released Wednesday. The intelligence gathering violated domestic spying rules because analysts took longer than 180 days to determine whether the U.S-based group or its American members posed a terrorist threat. Analysts also disseminated their report too broadly, according to documents obtained under the by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group. Read more... If you enjoyed this article, Join HBCU CONNECT today for similar content and opportunities via email! |
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Steven Muhammad
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When was there a time that the US Government did not spy on the Nation of Islam and other Black organizations and leaders. The author of the article says the government "improperly" spied. When is it proper to spy on a law abiding citizen? The US Government has never truly been for the upliftment of Black people. That is something we will have to do ourselves. History teaches us that the government was behind the destruction of Black organizations and leaders under CoInTelPro. That is why God's hand is against the government as His hand was against Pharoah and his people. Saturday, December 19th 2009 at 1:34AM |
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Steven you are on point Brother, and your points are factual...Our people are so blind and lost in this Madness that things have changed so much...We are no where near the true equality that we have been seeking since the founding of this so called great nation.
Saturday, December 19th 2009 at 3:12AM |
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Hello Steven, Let me explain this to you and I know that you do not pay much attention to the things I say even though you should. The US White American government is within their rights of human instincts or common sense to spy on any organization if the government feels threatened, am I right or have I said anything wrong. Secondly, why would the US government be for the upliftment of Black Americans when Black Americans are descendents of slaves? White Americans literally owns Black Americans still to this day. Black Americans have always been in the service of White Americans, seen and unseen. So, why would you expect that the US government be for the upliftment of Black Americans even though White America is our relatives? It seems to me that your mind is in the wrong place. Lastly, you said that God’s hand is against the US government as God’s hand was against Pharaoh and the Egyptian people. Again, the way you see things are backwards or that you rationalize in the negative looking for a positive outcome. God’s hand was not against Pharaoh, but instead, God’s hand was for Moses. In other words, it has to be one thing or the other. For instance, if God’s hand was against Pharaoh it does not necessarily mean that God’s hand was for Moses. God’s hand was strictly for Moses and had nothing to do with Pharaoh. God came to Moses and not to Pharaoh as God came to me for Black Americans. I have told you and written letters to the Final Call newspaper as well stressing that you all must concentrate on us rather than on White America. Please get White America out of you minds and think about yourselves. Mr. Elijah Muhammad’s mind was centered on White America and its destruction more so then his mind being centered on Black Americans and our complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders, am I right. Consequentially, common sense would tell you that Mr. Elijah Muhammad was not our anointed one and neither could Mr. Farrakhan be as well. I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way that Black Americans could ever become real people. The same that Moses was the way for the children of Israel. You are going to see that everything I say is true and it is going to happen. Mr. Farrakhan and all of you so-called Muslims are going to follow me as the children of Israel came to realize that Moses was their God given Prophet and followed him out of Egypt. No people have the right to choose who their prophet should be. That right is exclusively reserve for God only, am I right. Therefore, we are not Muslims and Islam is not our religion. These things belongs to the Arabian people in Prophet Mohammed, am I right again. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet that would lead us in to sovereignty on a portion of this continent. Tell me what you think. Saturday, December 19th 2009 at 7:32AM |
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Hello Mr. Douglas, You too are blind and lost in this madness. What say you? Saturday, December 19th 2009 at 7:35AM |
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I Can believe this, Bush and Cheney wanted to Make sure there was someone; younger and stronger than farrakhan, so upon the passing of farrakhan, the fbi would know who to pay; Him or Her to continue the MisInformation Tactics of farrakhan and the madoffFraud of 'blackness". Saturday, December 19th 2009 at 1:10PM |
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When is it proper to spy on a law abiding citizen? Especialy if they have no history of committing crimes punishable by law. Maybe he is winning more Black people over to his side with his use of Bible scriptures. I'm sure that he has taught his people how to recognize the signs of improper spying. One sign is when you notice that lots of construction workers taking their time to do small job. Another is when surveyors hang around planting devices, while pretending to take measurements. These are a few of the signs I"ve notice. Sunday, December 20th 2009 at 2:38PM |
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Hello Ms. Helen, You asked this question, “When is it proper to spy on a law abiding citizen? Especialy if they have no history of committing crimes punishable by law.” Since the real estate of this country belongs only to White American people of British descent it will always be proper to spy on any law-abiding citizen when White America feels threatened. I believe that you would do the same if this country had belonged to you and Black Americans. Your whining and complaining is the very reason I promotes and advocates the sovereignty or complete independence of Black Americans on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. God has inspired me to know that Black America’s only permanent solution is that we desire to become a sovereign people on a portion of this continent. Mr. Farrakhan neither advocates nor promotes the sovereignty or complete independence of Black Americans. What Mr. Farrakhan does is whine and complains as you do. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet just as Moses was to the children of Israel. I will put an end to our constant whining and complaining. I hope that you want the same thing that I want, which is to be sovereign free on a portion of this continent. Next, you said this, “Maybe he is winning more Black people over to his side with his use of Bible scriptures.” Mr. Farrakhan could never win more Black Americans over by using the Bible scriptures. The Bible is the Jewish people’s testimony to the world of how God have helped them in their times of trouble with other races as well as helping them personally. Black Americans who are descendents of slaves are not in the Bible. Consequentially, what Mr. Farrakhan is doing is further confusing Black Americans and taking our monies. Black Americans religious book is forthcoming. No prophets in the Bible belong to Black Americans. Black America’s prophet must be a Black American who is a descendent of slaves as you are Ms. Helen. Am I making any sense with you? What say you? Sunday, December 20th 2009 at 4:21PM |
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Steven, I was going to leave a comment, however Harry and these haters of Min. Farrakhan with their wild and speculative ideas of sovereignity, are funny as hell! Even Micheal Jackson himself had more masculinity in him than these clowns (LOL)! Sunday, December 20th 2009 at 10:02PM |
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sweet irma, blackstar line was Marcus Garvey("Lets go back to Africa-and Here are the Ships")--- yes irma "Educated"Christian Negros--like dubase, killed this Great Moment in American History. and yes christianNegros like farrakhan are attempting to confuse the Change that Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama is initiating throughout America Monday, December 21st 2009 at 9:49AM |
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Hello Siebra, You said this, “however Harry and these haters of Min. Farrakhan with their wild and speculative ideas of sovereignity, are funny as hell!” Firstly, let me remind you that in the days of Moses there were Hebrews with your type of mindset that were led an inspired by the elders as you are by Mr. Farrakhan. They too claimed that Moses was a hater of the elders, as you believe that I hate Mr. Farrakhan. However, that is not so. You are a very confused woman do to Mr. Farrakhan’s rhetoric and leadership. Mr. Farrakhan is not anointed and you know it. In fact, he follows and sympathizes with the ways, customs and beliefs of the Arabian people while he is not an Arab. Therefore, since he is confused should you not also be confused? Of course, you are confused. Lastly, if you believe that sovereignty is not the permanent solution to the hundreds of years of Black America’s dilemma, then what is our permanent solution? Likewise, many Hebrews thought that the message of Moses was wild and speculative, but we see that it was not since Prophet Moses was God’s anointed one as I. Again, if you believe that sovereignty is not our permanent solution to our dilemma, then tell me what is our permanent solution? Mr. Farrakhan neither promotes nor advocates a permanent solution or sovereignty or complete independence of Black Americans on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. God hath anointed me with this task. What say you? Monday, December 21st 2009 at 10:47AM |
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Hello Robert, You said this, “Change that Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama is initiating throughout America” Robert whatever changes President Obama do, the next incoming president could change, am I right? Therefore, what will become of your hype of President Obama when he must leave the presidency? Consequentially, as far as Black Americans are concerned, we need a permanent change. Therefore, our change must come from God through our Prophet, who is a Black American that will be permanent as the change that came to the Hebrew people through Moses was permanent. In other words, it did not matter who the next Pharaoh was going to be. Do you agree with me? Tell me what you think. Monday, December 21st 2009 at 10:59AM |
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Oh, Ye of Little Faith--HarryIrmaSiebra Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama in one year has done more than all 45-46Presidents have Ever Done. He has has exactly 3 years, 29 days and 6 hours more of Change. I will admit, In my opinion, Harry is the prophet that the minds of irmaSiebra can accept as prophet--they accept a known fraud farrakhan--at least they know Harry. Many young people on this site do good things like incubate business ideas, inform on education and technology and inform on concrete happenings in their communities--so HarryIrmaSiebra why not join CHANGE. Monday, December 21st 2009 at 5:52PM |
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Hello Robert, The change that I am for is that Black Americans who are descendents of slaves become a sovereign people or have complete independence from White America on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. This is the same change that Prophet Moses promoted and advocated for the Children of Israel in his day and time. I know that any changes within the borders of White America are no change at all for Black Americans. For the same reason, Moses knew that any changes within the borders of Egypt were no change at all for the Children of Israel. Consequentially, Moses and I are genuine prophets to our own people, am I right. Robert, you do not have common sense and that is why you are not the chosen one, but I am. Tell me what you think. Monday, December 21st 2009 at 10:52PM |
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Hello Mr. Clark, I should say that this blog should mean more than Mr. Ralph Ellison's "Invisible Man" Hollywood entertainment to you since you are a Black American. It should show you how descendents of slaves are struggling, mentally speaking to get a grip on reality, common sense and rationalizing in a straight line. Black Americans are a disadvantaged people. We are in need of and deserve the help of God, am I right. Tell me what you think. Tuesday, December 22nd 2009 at 6:35AM |
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harryIrmaSiebra---HIS I am not struggling, The struggling Harry, you refer to are the Lazy negros, in shacks and ghettos-of their minds, that cannot or do not want to read, are enabled by their christianMothers, that do not know how to tie their shoelaces, do not know how to wear pants, those that like Prision cause they can eat AND be gay---those are the Decadence that America needs to get rid of....... now if you have an Ark, or a Staff---Please round them up-- Oh prophet HIS and take them with you to the wilderness desert for at least 40 years. Tuesday, December 22nd 2009 at 8:44AM |
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Hello Robert, Stop your idiotic nonsense of criticism and shell out some wisdom and facts that would prove that I am wrong about anything I said about you. In all these months, you have never said that I was wrong about the things I said about you. Therefore, I do not need any damn criticism. I need you to say and prove that I am wrong. Since the establishment of the NOI Elijah Muhammad unintentionally misled thousands of Black Americans across White America. However, I adamantly said that Dr. Fard Muhammad, a man of Pakistani origin misled Elijah Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad misled you as well, am I right. Mr. Elijah Muhammad and you are Black Americans who are descendents of slaves, which means that you are not Muslims since you are not Arabian people. The word Muslim was coined by Prophet Mohammed for the sole purpose of labeling those of his people that were converted from paganism to Islam, Prophet Mohammed called them Muslims or believers in Al Islam. Islam and the affairs of Prophet Mohammed were between Arabian people since Prophet Mohammed was an Arab man. The wars of Barr and Hud were between Arabs and Arabs. In other words, Arabs were fighting Arabs to prevent the establishment of the religion of Islam, am I right. All of Prophet Mohammed’s affairs had nothing to do with Black Americans who are descendents of slaves, am I right. Prophet Mohammed was establishing the religion of Islam among his own Arabian people and not Black Americans. We have our own prophet, which is I. Have you not noticed that every Prophet is matched to his people by race? Do you not think that you are on the wrong side of scholarship as you put it to be following the ways, customs and traditions of the Arabian people while you are a Black American is a descendent of slaves? Now, what you need to do when you respond is prove that what I have just said I am in error and leave the criticism alone. Intelligent men do not criticize. Intelligent men use intelligence and not criticism to prove themselves right over an attack by someone else, such as me. What say you? Tuesday, December 22nd 2009 at 11:14PM |
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Harry, harry, harry I told you before there was no Pakistan until 1948: there was India and AsSayed Abdullah Fard Muhammad was of Muslim Indian Origin---Not Pakistan. Harry, I say you are Insane but I really do not mean that, but your claim to intelligence is as broad a saying as one can get from negros. Men are men. Faith is belief in the things man cannot see, feel, touch that they cannot explain. elijah muhammad; Elevators to prophethood or fard god elevators are just the natural Monotheistic knowledge that slaveAmericans accepted in 1865 America. That is The europeanChristianPagan association of god as man. by 1900s, 1 generation from slavery, some slaves said, "well if europeans can say man 'Created', himself----- Then we negros, can say; "we IS the 'creator of aw self too"--- Both are PaganEuropean concepts in Origin. There is NO MonotheisticThought, ScholasticThought or ScientificThought for these Pagan ideas; but they do live within us in Entertainment and 'Culture'(ie) Christmas. So eventhough I say you are borderline Insane for making prophetic claims, Your claims are in keeping with PaganEuropean thought and you, siebra, stevemuh, solomon, and the NegroChristianLeftRight and Middle share the same Psychological intelligence. Now, if you want to speak Monotheistically---that to me harry is Intelligence; it has History in many languages and it has Science and it has a concept of Faith that can be Researched. The pagan platform is either just Entertainment or Insanity.---in My opinion. I know this forms the America we live in, But I want to follow the Change that Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama represents Friday, December 25th 2009 at 10:12AM |
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Hello Robert, The issue is not whether my claims are in keeping with pagan European thoughts. I clearly said to you that the word Muslim came from Prophet Mohammed specifically to label Arabian people that were converting to Islam from paganism. I further stated that this event and period of history had nothing to do specifically with you Robert since you are not of Arabian origin. You seem to think that I am insane because no people have ever accepted their prophet, am I right. In addition, I stated that no people have the right to pick or choose what Prophet is theirs. God Allah is the only entity that chooses prophets for their people since Allah is the only entity that guides and inspires prophets who in turn changes the dynamics of their people’s circumstances. Did not Prophet Mohammed change the dynamics of his people from paganism to Islam and ever since then the Arabian people has been on track? Therefore, my question to you since you are a Black American and not of Arabian origin why are you a Muslim and your religion is Islam when Prophet Mohammed is not your Prophet. I am your Prophet. You look very silly being a Black American man worshiping Arabian people. It tells me that you do not know who you are and where you belong. People with your mentality Allah God raises up prophets to guide such people as you are. All 41 million Black Americans has the same mentality that you have, they do not know who they are or where they belong. So, they call themselves Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and anything else they could find. However, God has risen me up in our midst to straighten this nonsense out. Am I making any sense with you Robert? Therefore, the question you need to answer is why you follow the Arabian people customs, ways, rituals and traditions. Consequentially, this question has nothing to do with pagan European thoughts. What say you? Friday, December 25th 2009 at 12:24PM |
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The PaganEuropean had to have a mentality or way of life that allowed him to Own his World--His paganMind allowed him to believe that He was the Center of the Universe- the god-the created and creator. MonotheisticThought of Adaam though; is about The Creator not needing the created. The Creator is! -- and created are required to serve The Creator for themselves for their own benefit not for The Creator, The Creator does not need man! Man needs to Believe and needs The Creator.. Man should Believe in the words of The Creator and should follow the Way-Sunnah of all The Prophets and Messengers sent from The Creator---this is Faith. Man can though serve other than Creator, they can serve the golden calf, devil or whatever--free chose. if there are 41 million that have faith in you, ok. I am not one----my family is not any. and again, for the last time, Muslim is a transliteration in English of an Arabic word that means in yourPagan English language, one who submits to THE CREATOR....... I am Arab because Arabic is a language and I speak, read and comprehend primarily in Arabic. some Arabs are Muslim, others are pagan, christian, jew---etc. Friday, December 25th 2009 at 3:33PM |
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Hello Robert, I cannot get you to answer my question because I am making a fool out of you. Let me first say that the translation of the word Muslim into any language does not change the fact that the word Muslim is an Arabic word. Therefore, the question is not what the word means. My point is that the word Muslim is Arabic and it was invented by Prophet Mohammed to label those of his people that were converted from paganism to Islam. In other words, the entire operation was an Arabian thing. You Mr. Powell are a Black American who is a descendent of slaves. Therefore, even though you could speak Arabic it does not change the fact that you are a Black American and not an Arabian man. Consequentially, Prophet Mohammed is not your Prophet. I am your Prophet. I am a Black American as you are that God have anointed. You should know that I am your Prophet since I am the one bringing you this revelation of yourself. You are one of my people. You are not one of Mohammed’s people, am I right. I made it plain to you that Allah raises up prophets from among their own kind. You know this from Al Quran. Therefore, I am not telling you anything wrong. You are not strong enough to handle the truth, yet. Prophet Mohammed is not of your kind. Next, I said that no people and individuals have the right to pick who their prophet should be. I said only Allah has this exclusive right to choose a people’s Prophet for them and you know that I am right. What I have just said is the same as no one born into this world had the right to pick whom their parents should be. Therefore, God warns you to honor your mother and father. By the same principle, you warn to honor the prophet whom God have anointed with wisdom to give you, introduce you to God and correct the problems that Black Americans have been suffering from now for over 500 years. Knucklehead, the problems of Black Americans existed long before President Obama was born and elected. Again, I am the way. What say you? Friday, December 25th 2009 at 8:22PM |
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your issue Mr. Watley is that with your 1,000,000 words you have yet to give BIA readership an example that we might conclude--- ye He be prophet-- He got a book-- He survived Katrina on a leaf- He cut Rev. Sharptons hair---come on harry you can give us something you might be right, i am a knucklehead to communicate with a 68IQ Stonehead. you should know by now, I DO NOT believe that 'BlackAmericans" have any problems---when slavery ended in 1865 those chitlin eating negros accepted the superiority of Masters europeanPaganThought. They fine. America has a problem in 2009 with any Lawless, Lazy, Decadent Americans not contributing to the Modernization of Our World and accepting the Change of Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama. Saturday, December 26th 2009 at 12:04AM |
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Hello Robert, You said this, “ye He be prophet-- He got a book--” Prophets does not come with a book. Prophet Mohammed did not come with Al Quran. Prophets came with the Wisdom, Inspiration and Guidance of God to do their divine duty. The text of religious books only relates to the Prophet such as the Quran relates to Prophet Mohammed. People close to the Prophet are who puts together these religious books. For example, the Prophet’s companions records the things the prophets say, do an events that the Prophet has sparked. For instance, Prophet Mohammed sparked the battle of Burr and it was an event recorded in Al Quran, am I right. Okay, now you know how religious books come into existence. Again, there are books that tell about the life and times of the Prophet. Consequentially, the prophet comes first and the religious book comes second. In other words, the Prophet does not bring any book or books with him as you thought that Prophet Mohammed brought the Quran with him. Now, the sole purpose of having a religious book is to benefit the future generations of the Prophets’ people as well as the world who are interested in the history of that specific people, and we are using the Arabian people as my example. The future generations of the Arabian people could look back and learn how their religious practices, customs and rituals started and was passed down to them how to worship Allah. All prophets have the duty of introducing their people to God. They all have different ways and that is why no one Prophet is considered universal or for all people. For instance, Prophet Moses introduced his Hebrew people to God and the ritual of the Passover that the Jewish people still observed today. Prophet Mohammed has a particular form of prayer to prostrate you on the ground and the ritual of Ramadan. Jewish people do not do these things. Therefore, there is no such thing as a universal Prophet or a prophet for all people. Likewise, I have the responsibility of introducing my people, Black Americans to God as well. Our customs and rituals will be different. Therefore, there is no such thing as a universal Prophet. Am I making any sense with you Robert? Next, you said this, “I DO NOT believe that 'BlackAmericans" have any problems” You are a very confused man, because you went onto to express so many problems that Black America has that you suggested accepting the change of President Obama will be good for Black Americans. You have to make up your mind and speak with one tongue. I represent Black America’s only permanent change and solution. I am not a politician as President Obama is. His authority will last at best for eight years. I am Black America’s first genuine prophet. Therefore, the change and solution that comes with me is permanent and everlasting for Black Americans as it was for Prophet Moses and Prophet Mohammed. The change and solution the prophets brought were permanent and everlasting. Consequentially, this is how God does things in man’s world, am I right. Anyhow, you have still not answered my question. Why are you a Muslim, your religion Islam, your religious book Al Quran and you following Prophet Mohammed when you are Black American who is a descendent of slaves? Al Quran clearly states that Allah only raises up prophets from among their own kind and Prophet Mohammed is not of your kinds. Therefore, why are you following Prophet Mohammed? Clearly, you are without guidance. When Al Quran says that in this book is guidance true and sure to the believers. Obviously, the guidance is specifically for Arabian people, am I right. I, who am your Prophet, have your guidance. So, tell me, why are you embracing a prophet that is not of your kinds? I am your genuine Prophet, Robert. Everything that I have explained to you is in keeping with Al Quran, am I right. What say you? Saturday, December 26th 2009 at 12:25PM |
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No Harry, you are not right, you are totally wrong. Mohamed was given the Miracle of AlQur'aan through, a slave of Allaah-Jibreel AlQur'aan is guidance, history and mercy to Mankind. All created things, at their existance: are Muslim---- Adaam; to even you----now your mother and father or society may have made you other than Muslim- Now in 2009, you and I are SecularAmerican citizens. Our only American Obligation is to follow Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama Saturday, December 26th 2009 at 2:21PM |
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Hello Robert, Firstly, Robert I will say to you again that Al Quran for the most part is a collection of the life and times of Prophet Mohammed put together by his companions, am I right. The relationship and transactions between Allaah-Jibreel and Prophet Mohammed is not Al Quran. Again, Al Quran is a collection of the life and times of Prophet Mohammed put together by Prophet Mohammed’s companion. The transactions between Allaah-Jibreel were revelations, if you will. Allaah-Jibreel’s revelations to Prophet Mohammed said nothing about the battle of Burr or the Iyat of, “He Frowned”. These are incidents of the life and times of Prophet Mohammed that were made a part of Al Quran in terms of wisdom. In other words, Allaah-Jibreel did not hand over Prophet Mohammed Al Quran. Al Quran then developed into a text of the life and times of Prophet Mohammed am I right. Likewise, the text or book that will develop behind me will be about the life and times of Prophet Harry. The same principles followed by all prophets and religious books. The Torah is a text of the life and times of Prophet Moses am I right. Secondly, you said this, “All created things, at their existance: are Muslim---” This is not true. When God created humanity, God did not create Muslims. Prophet Mohammed is responsible for making Muslims out of Arabian people, only. Moses was responsible for making believers in God out of his Hebrew people, only. I am responsible for making believers in God out of my people, only. Again, Prophet Mohammed invented the word Muslim to label his people that were converted from paganism to Islam. So, Prophet Mohammed said that the word Muslim means one who believes in the will of God. What Prophet Mohammed meant by saying, “one” he was speaking to Arabian people and not all people. Naturally, pagans do not believe in the God. Next, Prophet Mohammed said that the will of God is Al Islam. That is how Muslim and Al Islam is string together. Adam was not a Muslim. Abraham was not a Muslim. Mary the mother of Jesus was not a Muslim. Prophet Moses was not a Muslim and Jesus was not a Muslim either. You and I are not Muslims since we are Black Americans who are descendents of slaves. We will have our own name as monotheistic believers. The only true Muslims are followers of Prophet Mohammed who are Arabian people. I have made this clear to you many of times, yet you stubbornly rejects this insight because you have been believing for many years that you are a Muslim until you met me on the Internet and I showed you that you are wrong, but Islam is right only for Arabian people. I am your Prophet, Robert! The same way that you had not a choice to say who your mother and father should be, nevertheless, you are the same race as your mother and father are or a combination. Your mother and father nourished you to maturity. Likewise, your prophet who is of your kind will nourish you as well, spiritually speaking. Therefore, the point that I am making is that the Prophet must be of your race or kinds. What say you? Saturday, December 26th 2009 at 3:17PM |
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You say Harry," All prophets have the duty of introducing their people to God". What God are you introducing? You have never mentioned who this God is. I grant that you are gifted with words, but you always leave out the name of God that you represent. Surely God would want his people, who are lost in the slavemasters religion to know how to communicate with him. If you are unable to give us this information then you yourself is full of it.
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Hello Helen, You asked this question, “I grant that you are gifted with words, but you always leave out the name of God that you represent.” Helen, the name of God is God or The Creator. Helen, since we speak the English language, then the English word for God is God or The Creator. Now, if we were Arabian people and of course speaking the Arabic language the word for God would be Allah. But now let us understand this, that the name of God is not as important as the definition of God is. One of the definitions of God is an entity that has the ability to create. Man cannot create. Therefore, no man could be God and neither would God be a man. So, it is not possible that Jesus could have been God or anyone’s Lord and Savior for that matter. Helen, man can explain almost anything. However, man cannot scientifically explain the creation of himself. Man is still studying how God created him. Man’s discovery of DNA was a milestone. Anyway, how man describes that God created Earth was that God said, “Be” and it was. All that man will ever be able to do is to go as far as God and not beyond. Something has to be responsible for the created and what else could be responsible for the created but the Creator, and I right. Do you understand what I am saying? So, remember that God’s name is simply God since we speak The King’s English, okay. The God that I started that anointed me is the God that Moses, Jesus and Mohammed served. The God that begets not nor is begotten and there is nothing like unto God. Know it for a surety as well that the prophets introduce their own people to God. As time goes on and you all settle down to accept me, I could begin introducing you to God. Right now, I am fighting to overcome you all, which is normal. I have to have some skin in all of this that we could all come out on the right side of things and be a sovereign people on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. Prophet Moses, had some skin as well in his task that all of the Hebrew people for the most part came out on the right side of things to leave Egypt. Jesus did not put much skin in his task. Jesus could not and did not have the patience to put up with his people’s nonsense and rejection of him. Therefore, he pulled out and God pulled away from him as well and allowed Jesus to be crucified. Other than that, Jesus would have never been crucified. There are penalties Prophets pay when they mess up. Tell me what you think. Saturday, December 26th 2009 at 8:31PM |
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again harry you are absolutely Wrong. harry, this is America, and you can write and make claims about things you have No Knowledge or Scholarship of---but to know any subject; an intelligent person must research and reference established Scholarship---- AlIslaam has 1430 years of established Scholarship So, please, for intelligent discourse--learn and study something at least, a little. Allaah says in Sűrat Yűnus-jonah 37. And this Qur’âan is produced by none, but Allâah - Lord of All existence, and it is a confirmation of the revelations of Allaah which came before in the torah-Taurât, and in the gospel-Injeel, and it is a full explanation of the laws, decreed for mankind - there is no doubt - from the Lord of the ‘Âlamîn - mankind, and all that exists. Allaah says in Sűrat Yűsuf-joseph 111. Indeed in their stories(of prophets), there is a lesson for men of understanding. AlQur'aan is but a confirmation of Allâah’s existing Words, which were before it, in the Taurât and in the Injeel and other Words of Allâah and a detailed explanation of everything and a guide and a Mercy for the people who believe. Concerning Musa: Allaah says in Sűrat Yűnus-jonah 83. But none believed in Műsâ except the offspring of his people, because of the fear of Fir‘aun (Pharaoh) and his chiefs, lest they should persecute them; and truly, Fir‘aun (Pharaoh) was an arrogant tyrant on the earth, he was indeed one of the Musrifűn (polytheists, sinners and transgressors, those who give up the truth and follow the evil, and commit great sins). Saturday, December 26th 2009 at 8:37PM |
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Hello Robert, Let me explain what has happened to you. Al Quran has consumed you, rather than you consuming Al Quran. You are suffering the same psychosis as the Black Christians. The Bible has consumed the Black Christians rather than the Black Christians consuming the Bible. You really do not understand how to read, interpret and commonly understand Al Quran. For instance, you gave me two Surat concerning Jonah and Joseph. In addition, you added Moses. Now Robert, Prophet Mohammed could not know more about the times of Moses and what was recorded and passed down from generations to generations since Moses was thousands of years before Prophet Mohammed. Should not common sense tell you that the Jewish people have the best records of themselves rather than the Arabian people? Robert, think with scholarship as you put it. However, I will explain to you what was happening. Mohammed’s companion asked him about Jonah, Joseph and Moses. Mohammed based on his own knowledge coupled with his ability to reason and with a touch of Allah’s inspiration, Prophet Mohammed answered the questions intelligently correct and his companions record it in the text of Al Quran. Nevertheless, if you really wanted to get the details about Moses I would research Hebrew peoples’ papers and not the papers of the Arabian people. In other words, who could best tell the history of Hebrew people except the Hebrew people? Again Robert, think with some scholarship. Do you not think that the Hebrew people have all the nuts and bolts about Moses and Pharaoh then what Prophet Mohammed has? Of course, the Hebrew people know more about themselves than what Prophet Mohammed knows. Again, Al Quran has consumed you rather then you consuming Al Quran. Anyway, I am your genuine Prophet and not Prophet Mohammed. I have wisdom and insight for you that you could not get from Al Quran, Al Islam and Prophet Mohammed. I am the way, and besides me, there is no other way. Everything that I say is going to happen. What say you? Saturday, December 26th 2009 at 10:20PM |
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I WILL ALSO REPEAT HOW THE TEACHINGS OF MINISTER FARRAKHANS THAT I FOLLOW HAS ME SO PROTECTED THAT ROBERT CAN NOT GET ANY NEEDED SUPPORT ON MY TURF/my blogs... Preach brother Steven, preach, as I am always listening to and looking forward to yours and Siebra's NEXT blogs MESSAGE FROM MY Black LEADER, mINISTER FARRAKHAN.(smile) Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM |
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robert,I will repeat once again that as long as I know that both you and your chosen leader prophet Harry fear and spend too, too much of your time and energy trying to convince those of us who have chosen Minister Farrakhan as our Black leader are wrong, then I will continue know that the his teachings are the very protections "I" need to SURVIVE in this life time/my generation's time and the generations of my children, my grandchildren and their children's childerns and so on and so forth(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM |
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And, maybe some times our government in the highest places are helpless to put a stop to both illegal spying and visious lying on our Black leaders, even those they have accepted like Dr. M.L. King by J. edger Hoover for example, Hoover had so much he was black maling from the presidents to the Senate pages thus making him far more powerful than anyone in washington, D.C. ...which only came out long after his and president J.F.K's death... And, what about W.E.B. Dubois getting all of that Jewish money for helping the government bring down the first Black owned and operated major big business...The Black Star line...what a pity ...what a pity...but our president refusing to not turn on Minister Farrakhan as Jackson did in order to run for president has for me made up for a lot of those making it easier for some of us to better be able to understand how we, most times , are our own worst enemy.(smile) poor Harry, he keeps allowing me to run him off of his own blogs and refuses to attack me on my own turf, huh, prophet. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM |
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