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I BEG THEM SISTAS MOST

I BEG THEM SISTAS MOST
Posted By: MIISRAEL Bride on October 02, 2008

Tonight, I was approached by a beggar. We have all faced them, sometimes more than one or two a day. When I can I give, when I can't I may give advice. I've noticed though, most beggars beg "them sistas" Surely, you know what I mean. Why? I think they may make the mother and son connection. Is it that men give them a certain stare. Long....silent...look.



I'm not putting down beggars I don't mind helping with a few dollars or a little change. I try to make the right call in my giving if there is such a thing. How do you handle pan handlers and beggars... Just curious will you voice out and give a few pointers? Come on.. I'd like to hear what you think and also see if I can do anything differently.

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MIISRAEL
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Jen Fad
Nurse at Healthcare
Girl before the Bush Administration and the Hurricane Katrina catastrophe, I avoid them. Now people are homeless for different reasons...so I have to play by ear. I really dislike giving money, but I will offer to buy food for people and most times they will swear and use all type language. That let's me know they don't want the money to buy food, but other things that has gotten landed them in the situation.

Thursday, October 2nd 2008 at 9:03PM
Shalonda Glisson
Property Book Management at US Army National Guard
I would BUY the person some food and pray , before I give them the money. If they are really hungry, then they'll take the offer, if not, then they just really past up a good thing. SOME 'beggars', if you want to say that, b/c most of them we see everyday, they just have habits, but those who are really in those situations , they are in your downtown area, sleeping on church fronts, and in front of shelters. It's very unfortunate that they have to be in those situations, but like I said, I would feed them, first, and when I leave them , I will say a prayer for them, b/c we all stand in the need of prayer! AND one thing I NEVER do is judge anyone, you never know what situation that person has came from or survived!


Friday, October 3rd 2008 at 9:14AM
prophetess Allison Cross
Support Staff at H.G.A. Support Services
I remember being homeless, over 17 years ago. Standing in line for food with my children and getting the looks as people road by in their cars. Some looked with compassion, some looked with disgust, some looked in disbelief. In living with homeless people at one point in my life. I met people that used to have a "life" some ended up homeless because of tragedy the loss of a loved one and they never got it back together, some became homeless because of drugs and alcohol and some because of depression. There were lots of other issues that caused people to become homeless. I dont think I ever asked anyone for money but I wanted to. So when I see homeless people I pray for them, If they ask for money, I too offer services or here a thought every now and then make a couple of car packages and hand them out. Blessings
Friday, October 3rd 2008 at 9:40AM
prophetess Allison Cross
Support Staff at H.G.A. Support Services
__CARE PACKAGES___
Friday, October 3rd 2008 at 9:41AM
Lesley Knight
HS Parenting & Coastal Rebuilding at My kids
I have been a volunteer on the MS gulf for over 2 years now, and JF was right, people are in tough spots for all kinds of reasons nowadays. My Daddy (God) told me to be a blessing, if it is my power to do so, and what the person does with it once it leaves my hand, is between them and God. Be encouraged that God sees what you are doing in faith. Pray that it will bless them in whatever way it SHOULD bless them and leave room for God to do what you can't. I haven't failed yet, though I have been disappointed from time to time. Keep steppin', it helps if you offer to pray for things they need prayer over. Speak it into existance, help them hear something possitive, and check up on them from time to time. Daddy says not to worry what you will eat, drink, or wear, and He controls the breath and heartbeat in my chest, so all my stuff is handled. I need not worry what poor decisions the other person makes with my blessing as long as my heart is in the right place. Be blessed. GB
Friday, October 3rd 2008 at 9:57AM
MIISRAEL Bride
Author/Writer at Self
Thank you ladies! You all are so wise! Sistas, are compassionate. Brothers where are you? Have you got nothing to say? I know you have. How to handle beggars and the less fortunate person who asks for a hand out? Keep it coming Ladies, even if the guys bailout!
Friday, October 3rd 2008 at 2:24PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Author/Writer at Self
I agree, with you Mister Johnson it's tough to know who's telling the truth. Even today, I had another incident with a man begging for a coke. He was partically blind and I handed him a dollar, but he said just buy me a coke, so I did. Then his reply threw me for a loop! After I handed him the coke, he stated..."Where my fifty-cents change? " I told him, first of all you didn't thank me, and when I handed you the dollar, you said you just wanted a coke. I told him, you're really pushing it fella! The people around me began laughing. I kept my change and put it back in my pocket. It's tough to know who can trust. Not even the blind beggars.
Friday, October 3rd 2008 at 3:02PM
Dee Gray
Provisioner at Cannot Say
It is fundamentally true that if a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat. That is Biblical as well. However, that same Bible teaches me about compassion, non judgment and a cheerful, giving spirit. So yes, I absolutely give to the homeless. And I usually give them what they ask for, meaning that if they ask for money, I give money when I have it. If they ask for food, I give them that. I wasn't in the habit of carrying cash but now I carry a couple or few cash dollars on me because on my way to church several times a week, I know I will encounter someone in need.

I give and don't draw conclusions about how a person got there. Some people are lazy, but for others, homelessness is a destination they ended up at. Many homeless people are not homeless by choice. Sometimes it's an educational issue. Sometimes it's a language barrier. Sometimes, it's veterans that have diligently served our country just to find themselves abandoned and disregarded by the very land they risked their lives to protect. Other times, it's from growing up in a lifestyle and being raised around fruitless people. In that event, it's generational. Other times, it's from not applying themselves in ways they know will help to prosper them. In other cases, it's a stay at home mom whose working husband died, leaving her to hold the household and have to do it on her own; if she went from high school to wife to homemaker and has entrusted everything to her husband not anticipating the worst, then balancing a checkbook and handling finances, etc., was not a part of her repetoir and finding a job these days with no formal training of any kind is hard-- and McDonald's won't begin to make the ends imagine meeting. I'm not saying her lack of preparation is right or wrong...I'm saying that things like this happen to people. And because I don't presume to assume that a person is in that circumstance because they didn't try or were lazy and shiftless, I just give in the event that the opposite is true.

I've had one occasion where due to severe illness, if not for my family, I'd have been very close to going to shelter for a time myself...with child in tow. Praise be to God for being my rock and my salvation and my help in my time of trouble.

Blessings...
Monday, October 6th 2008 at 12:00AM
Dee Gray
Provisioner at Cannot Say
Oh, and this blog made me think about something that happened with my husband and me not even a week ago. We saw a man my husband sees around a lot lately eating out of the garbage can. I've seen a lot and I know it happens, but I had never seen it live and in color. I turned our car around in traffic and we followed him into a business parking lot. He remembered my husband as soon as he saw him because he gives to him when he sees him. My husband shook his hand, gave him some encouragement and handed him some money. It was disheartening to me to see the man eating out of the trash can and it was a reminder of a time when it could have been me.

Blessings...
Monday, October 6th 2008 at 12:13AM
MIISRAEL Bride
Author/Writer at Self
Remakable! Your comments are so remarkable! I hope I have shed a light on helping others in situations, Dee your comments are so full of wisdom. We all can benefit from any wisdom. I hope others will take in and be considerate, even if we cannot understand how that person ended up in his or her situation(s) Shows too, that there are some people around with compassionate hearts. Thanks MJ...encouraging words is like food for the soul, and so much better than money.
Monday, October 6th 2008 at 9:18AM
Dee Gray
Provisioner at Cannot Say
MJ, I hear you. And sometimes a word of encouragement is just as filling as a morsel of food, allbeit sometimes temporary. And it IS hard to see. My heart fell into my gut to see that and it set our journey home back about 10-15 minutes by turning around in traffic to follow him, but the look on his face and his whole demeanor were priceless and worth all 10-15 minutes and then some.

Thanks for the encouragement, Miisrael. It warms the soul...truly. ;-)

Blessings...
Tuesday, October 7th 2008 at 12:23PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Author/Writer at Self
Dorothy, I appreciate your comment. I see there are other many ways to give. You are truly blessed indeed to be one who gives of your time!
Wednesday, October 8th 2008 at 5:31PM
I agree with Lesley. I don't worry about what that person is going to do with the money. When I see a homeless person it breaks my heart. I'm not any better than them. I'm thankful to God that I've never been in that situation but I've been close (lost my job). And I remember how people looked down on me like the situation was my fault. You never know what life has in store for you. You may on the top today, feeling all secure, but only God knows what tomorrow holds for you.
Thursday, October 9th 2008 at 5:36PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Author/Writer at Self
Truth! If you give , do it without gruding; or out of necessity. If they are full with lies, God knows their hearts and works. Thanks Chanda....
Sunday, October 12th 2008 at 8:56AM
Lesley Knight
HS Parenting & Coastal Rebuilding at My kids
Miisrael, you know how to get the communication flowing! You are truly blessed!
It is my belief that until/unless we give of what we have, there is no room for God to give us as freely. If all you have is time, give it. If all you have is faith filled words, give it. If all you have is spare change, give it. If all you have is a vehicle, help give them a ride somewhere (church, food bank, food stamp office, shelter). If all you have is love, give it. For it is only when we freely give, we will freely recieve. It is only when we give that we give God room to refill. It is only when we bless that we will obtain the blessing. We can only do with what God has given us, and THAT is only borrowed. It all belongs to the one who owns it all, therefore, give it away that you may reap what you sew, and have a bounty to give again. GB
Sunday, October 12th 2008 at 12:08PM
Marta Fernandez
CUNY -Queens College class of 1985
30 years ago two pre-teens asked for money for food, I bought them the food and they just looked at it and stared. Ok moving on, Christ tells us to give you never know whenyou are serving an angel, well in Las Vegas I was approached by a young white woman who went out of the way to ask me for money, but I said no. That was about 10 years ago, my daughter then 5 said " mommy, I thought you said you always had to give if they asked" I just told her that , that was true, but I didn't feel right.

In Las Vegas I encountered the most prejudice and insults, from "whites" that I had ever in my whole life.

Maybe it was a sign, I don't know, but. I do not give to white men who ask. why? there are no obstcles to getting a job, food or help, while a Black person may not have that opportunity. If I give I don't care what they do with the money. It is out of my hands and into theirs.

I offer, without being asked. It gets to be a lot, I also buy food, help with carfare, and just try to do nice things for those who are less fortunate, because but for the Grace of God go I.

Now before you attack me, because I said I do NOT give white men money.I believe they are using (me) us because they know how compassionate we are..I have actually watched them to see if my belief is true..and sure enough they asked not of their own but of us. That colored my decision. Maybe they feel embarrassed to ask their own, for the very reason I stated prior. I have been seeing this for a long time.

I am right with God, I know it in my heart. I do however make exceptions if they are youngsters.And I have, gave $20.00 to a young man, and another that I tried to help, took into my home a 16-year old that was abused..after a call from a social worker who due to my reputation in Las Vegas asked me to take this teen-ager in . He was a Mexican fella, and had mental problems of which I HAD NO IDEA had to approach and my own children were young. His father a member of the Mexican mafia was in prison, and one day he called to say "Thank you."

I have done a lot and will continue to do so,but if youare an able bodied "white man in America" you are not getting my "fitty cents." I am adamant about that and only God can judge me, as only God knows my heart. I only add this because inthe 2 months I have been on this site, considering there are so many Christian women, they sure can be judgmental!! But then we all fall down sometimes..
Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 2:04AM
Marta Fernandez
CUNY -Queens College class of 1985
Oh, and I have been on the receiving end when myself and my 2 children were stranded at the Western Union office in San Diego, for money that never came, and a sister just walked up and gave me $20.00..so you have to know how to receive in order to give. People have always been kind to me, and I reciprocate. My mother is and was the same way.
Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 2:11AM
Dee Gray
Provisioner at Cannot Say
Marta, the part of your comment that disturbs me is the part that seems to suggest that black people have the market cornered on unemployment and suffering. Why? Because it's not true. People of all races from all walks of life suffer and homelessness touches EVERYBODY. And using God to actually suggest that your conscious, discriminatory decision to not give to a person JUST because of the color of his skin is like WOW. God made the rain to fall on the just and the unjust so please, refrain from trying to convice yourself that God cosigns on your discrimination. (Frankly, it's your money...you can do whatever you want with it. We all know that. The problem seems to be that you've injected a very negative piece of data into the equation, so the gift of giving is not so equitable anymore).

Anyway, that's my two cents.

Blessings...

Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 2:36PM
Marta Fernandez
CUNY -Queens College class of 1985
I give way to much to be disturbed by this comment..somehow I knew a negative person would view it this way..I said I give to ALL youths. You just wanted to attack so you looked for something, but in doing that you made yourself look kind of "uninformed." shall we say?

All of the people that I have helped ,in my lifetime, including my students that I encouraged and pushed them to get "A" s so they could get scholarships carries more weight than any comment on this network. I also notice people read subjectively as you have --and not objectively, if you were a true woman of God you would have looked at what your judgmental stance perceives as my "discriminatory" decision and tempered it with love.. at this point I would dare say to you, if a person suffers from low self esteem it is reflected in their emotions. You always look for the negative..NO God Bless you and help you to read with what I taught my students a "critical" eye.

This is like the satire, that no one understood. I can see very well why you are "disturbed." Pray on it sister, and release your judgmental ways, when my church refused to give a Nigerian couple money for food I gave them $100.00 , now tell me what do you do? 'cause God knows my heart..and yours! Blessings--I AM NOT GIVING A WHITE MAN MONEY. OKAY.? SAY WHAT YOU LIKE IT''S FREE COUNTRY..SO LET ME REPEAT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~I AM NOT GIVING A WHITE MAN MONEY~~~~~~~.

I compare that with the FEDERAL government bailing out rich "white" bankers, while poor people of all colors suffer..also I do not want to get into a discussion with you about color, because you ? and I ? are NOT on the same page. Misarael already blogged on the inability of "understanding" ..

I am also getting tired of Black racism in reverse, covered with pretenses of defending white folks,by whose power many live in poverty in the first place. Go pray on it..because God will judge us by our works and not by the comments on this blog, postive , negative or indifferent!!!!!!.

To tell someone who has lived six decades that they don't understand that black people don't have the market cornered in unemployment is just plain ignorant and pretentious and devoid of in depth understanding.

Pray on it sister, pray for wisdom,pray for temperance, pray that you finances will allow you to give more, pray for knowledge. And you look very sad behind that door. At least pretend that you are happy and you will become so.

SIGNED..I DON'T GIVE MONEY TO WHITE MEN. THANK YOU!
Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 6:17PM
Dee Gray
Provisioner at Cannot Say
Marta, What????????

"I also notice people read subjectively as you have --and not objectively, if you were a true woman of God you would have looked at what your judgmental stance perceives as my "discriminatory" decision and tempered it with love.. at this point I would dare say to you, if a person suffers from low self esteem it is reflected in their emotions. You always look for the negative..NO God Bless you and help you to read with what I taught my students a "critical" eye. "

YOU said you don't give money to "white men" not ME. If that's not what you meant to say, then I fully encourage you to say what you mean to say in the future. YOU said and there was nothing BUT even temperedness in my response to you. You act like I called you out of your name or something.

I cautioned you to not use God to shroud your discrimination because HE does not discriminate and I stand by that. And why again does that make me "negative"? And you don't have to justify yourself to ME because I'm not your judge and jury. You don't have to explain to ME who all you've given to...I have no way reward or discard you for it. Your giving resume is not of any particular interest to me so please spare me the laundry to justify your point.

I was merely trying to encourage you to have a change of heart, which apparently you will not...and that's fine with me. Keep in mind though that YOU said, "but. I do not give to white men who ask. why? there are no obstcles to getting a job, food or help, while a Black person may not have that opportunity. If I give I don't care what they do with the money. It is out of my hands and into theirs." Okay? You said that and it makes it sound like you think only the black has the market cornered on unemployment. YOU did that, not me. And then you used God to shroud or justify that decision by making mention that you are "right with God," which really suggests that this is perhaps something you have struggled with for a minute. Why let everyone know you're "right with God" if you really believe this to be a truly, unproblematic, "right" and Godly decision? A lot of times it's not what we don't say...it's what we DO say. I'm challenging you to really search your heart for this one. And if you can look a hungry person in the face when he ASKS you for help that you have to give and WOULD give if only he were black, but say "No" because he's WHITE, then so be it. If your conscience can be clear in knowlingly saying no because he is a WHITE MAN, okay. But please, don't use God to say it's right or that there nothing wrong with it. (I personally could care less who you give your money to. I do care, however, when you try to align your line of thinking with what GOD would do, allow or justify as right).

BTW, I'd comment on certain derogatory parts of your post towards me personally, but that would be less than Godly, so I digress. The fact that you are SO OFFENDED speaks OODLES to the fact that something in you (perhaps God) has already revealed to you that your discrimination is wrong. BTW, calling wrong what it is...wrong...is NOT judgmental. It's what the Word calls upon us to do.

And don't worry about me. I'm not offended. You'd have to know me personally (or have corresponded with me for long enough for me to consider you a friend) for you to be able to burn me with scathing docudrama in a way that damages me emotionally, psychologically or physically. Nice try though. I love you and the Lord loves you, too.

Blessings...
Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 7:15PM
Dee Gray
Provisioner at Cannot Say
BTW, I'm not standing behind a door. I'm standing outside on my porch in the shade for a minute while my daughter is screaming at me to give her an introspective pose. If you actually looked at my photo album, you'd KNOW this. LOL.

Blessings...


Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 7:17PM
Dee Gray
Provisioner at Cannot Say
Thanks, MIISRAEL. I'm calmly sticking to my position. ...love you!!!! ;-)

Blessings...
Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 7:55PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Author/Writer at Self
Ladies! Let's calm down to order. We are talking about giving and helping. We want to stick to that! Everyone of you doesn't give in the same manner. What's important here? Giving or hurting? We must remember that in our giving we do it most sincerely....I am not wanting you to start a WORD WAR! You all are my friends. Please ladies, let's reason together and stay on the topic. We are putting the enemy OUT! OKAY!....I love you all.
Tuesday, October 14th 2008 at 7:56PM
MIISRAEL Bride
Author/Writer at Self
Thanks for covering my back MJ, I believe the clouds are settled now. You're a true friend. (Smiles) Everyone, please accept my gratitude for such a huge response to this blog. So much good advice! Please, though if there is more you are more than welcome to keep posting!
Thursday, October 16th 2008 at 9:36AM
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