What do you all think about wives submitting themselves to their own husbands. Sometimes some people take the scripture in ephesians 5:22 out of context. A while ago after hearing Elder Johnny James comment on it I was enlightened ever more about the scripture. I already knew that the scripture was only referring to married women, of course, and that it was clarifying that wives need to submit to their OWN husbands. As I look up a verse I also see that we ought to submit ourselves one to another. So what I'm seeing is that we should each submit in our own way, in our roles in marriage. So with all that being said what do you all think about "submitting" to your husband when marriage arrives?
So basically Demmeri, in a very piggish way youre arguing that men should do "men stuff" and women should play their "role". And you think youre not a chauvinist?
You think that in the year of 05' your conservative notion of a man being dominant in a relationship is going to fly with the 05' (black*) woman?
Okay, you go on talking about what *Gods intentions are and I'll let you ramble on about women serving men. No really, its fun to watch I havent had someone talk so much about Nothing in years...since my debating days in High school.
Maybe I'm a new school liberal methodist christian who believes in the equal importance of men and women, who thinks that its okay if the woman is a lawyer and the man is a teacher...if they are happy then *Shrug*. I wont be the guy who laughs at their "ungodly" relationship or tells the guy that he needs to step up and make more money than her. Im sure if they are happy with each other then they have a system and partnership set up so to be conducive of Happiness.
And whos the last modern day feminist you talked to? You should talk to my older sister whos part of a feminist club at her college...really well read, shed probably squash every theory you have. Shes not an extremist at all, but a very level headed woman whos been in a relationship for several years with one man and isnt one of those "Leave him, go cheat" kind of girls either. Neither are the friends she hangs out with. "Get your sh*t together" - TI
yeah i agree with the stank that people manipulae this verse in order to take advantage of female folk...
the Bible also says that you're suppose to love your wife as you love yourself...and that you're suppose to be what Christ is to the Church to your wife...i dunno if i expressed that properly... Chirst doesn't bop the church upset the head and call them a **** if they don't do right...Christ shows the example of how to be a good human and how to please God in your life and walk...Chirst is suppose to be the example of what God wants us to be...and this is what the male is suppose to do as head of his household...he is suppose to be what Chirst is to the church...
but a husband is suppose to love his wife as himself (that's what the Book says)...it says nothing about slapping her upside the head and making her do the dishes...you're suppose to love her and treat her as if she's apart of your own body...it says nothing about you dominating her or about seeing if she can take a punch or not...
and a woman is to respect her husband out of love...(the Bible never actually says "Woman, love your husband...")...a woman shows her love for her husband according to the Bible by repecting him and his leadership... ths husband was designed by God to lead...the question is what kind of leader is he?
ladies, if you don't feel that you can trust or repect his leadership because of his incompetence, you shouldn't have married his **** in the first place...
and there can't be 2 heads of the house...this is liberalism and feiminsm (sp) at it's worst...are there 2 Chirst in the church? when you have 2 heads, it's not gonna work....man was designed by god to lead, and he should be the leader or else it ain't gonna work, ya dig? 8-) (evy)
Although there were alot of mispellings in this post. I get what he's trying to say. And as God has made man to be the head of the house hold, he is also accountable to God, for the house, if something goes wrong.
So basically Demmeri, in a very piggish way youre arguing that men should do "men stuff" and women should play their "role". And you think youre not a chauvinist?
You think that in the year of 05' your conservative notion of a man being dominant in a relationship is going to fly with the 05' (black*) woman?
Okay, you go on talking about what *Gods intentions are and I'll let you ramble on about women serving men. No really, its fun to watch I havent had someone talk so much about Nothing in years...since my debating days in High school.
Maybe I'm a new school liberal methodist christian who believes in the equal importance of men and women, who thinks that its okay if the woman is a lawyer and the man is a teacher...if they are happy then *Shrug*. I wont be the guy who laughs at their "ungodly" relationship or tells the guy that he needs to step up and make more money than her. Im sure if they are happy with each other then they have a system and partnership set up so to be conducive of Happiness.
And whos the last modern day feminist you talked to? You should talk to my older sister whos part of a feminist club at her college...really well read, shed probably squash every theory you have. Shes not an extremist at all, but a very level headed woman whos been in a relationship for several years with one man and isnt one of those "Leave him, go cheat" kind of girls either. Neither are the friends she hangs out with. "Get your sh*t together" - TI
I hate the "caveman" mindset!
you're only taking his side because you like him...
anyways, i've talked it ove with one of my walmart buddies and realised i'm a little too consrevative...yeah i'd let my babe follow her dreams and have a career in junk...and have co-say so in our finances...
but i'm still her protector...i don't feel like going in depth because i';m sleepy 8-)
yeah i agree with the stank that people manipulae this verse in order to take advantage of female folk...
the Bible also says that you're suppose to love your wife as you love yourself...and that you're suppose to be what Christ is to the Church to your wife...i dunno if i expressed that properly... Chirst doesn't bop the church upset the head and call them a **** if they don't do right...Christ shows the example of how to be a good human and how to please God in your life and walk...Chirst is suppose to be the example of what God wants us to be...and this is what the male is suppose to do as head of his household...he is suppose to be what Chirst is to the church...
but a husband is suppose to love his wife as himself (that's what the Book says)...it says nothing about slapping her upside the head and making her do the dishes...you're suppose to love her and treat her as if she's apart of your own body...it says nothing about you dominating her or about seeing if she can take a punch or not...
and a woman is to respect her husband out of love...(the Bible never actually says "Woman, love your husband...")...a woman shows her love for her husband according to the Bible by repecting him and his leadership... ths husband was designed by God to lead...the question is what kind of leader is he?
ladies, if you don't feel that you can trust or repect his leadership because of his incompetence, you shouldn't have married his **** in the first place...
and there can't be 2 heads of the house...this is liberalism and feiminsm (sp) at it's worst...are there 2 Chirst in the church? when you have 2 heads, it's not gonna work....man was designed by god to lead, and he should be the leader or else it ain't gonna work, ya dig? 8-) (evy)
Although there were alot of mispellings in this post. I get what he's trying to say. And as God has made man to be the head of the house hold, he is also accountable to God, for the house, if something goes wrong.
So basically Demmeri, in a very piggish way youre arguing that men should do "men stuff" and women should play their "role". And you think youre not a chauvinist?
You think that in the year of 05' your conservative notion of a man being dominant in a relationship is going to fly with the 05' (black*) woman?
Okay, you go on talking about what *Gods intentions are and I'll let you ramble on about women serving men. No really, its fun to watch I havent had someone talk so much about Nothing in years...since my debating days in High school.
Maybe I'm a new school liberal methodist christian who believes in the equal importance of men and women, who thinks that its okay if the woman is a lawyer and the man is a teacher...if they are happy then *Shrug*. I wont be the guy who laughs at their "ungodly" relationship or tells the guy that he needs to step up and make more money than her. Im sure if they are happy with each other then they have a system and partnership set up so to be conducive of Happiness.
And whos the last modern day feminist you talked to? You should talk to my older sister whos part of a feminist club at her college...really well read, shed probably squash every theory you have. Shes not an extremist at all, but a very level headed woman whos been in a relationship for several years with one man and isnt one of those "Leave him, go cheat" kind of girls either. Neither are the friends she hangs out with. "Get your sh*t together" - TI
I hate the "caveman" mindset!
you're only taking his side because you like him...
anyways, i've talked it ove with one of my walmart buddies and realised i'm a little too consrevative...yeah i'd let my babe follow her dreams and have a career in junk...and have co-say so in our finances...
but i'm still her protector...i don't feel like going in depth because i';m sleepy 8-)
Yo, quit playin Demi; she doesnt like me and Im not trying to make her. *crosses his arms stubbornly* Go marry your subservient women! :lol:
I feel like I will never submit myself to anyone...or at least not to a point where I feel like they've got control over me or they're in charge. I dont like the whole man of the household scenario..
I will indeed be that loyal and faithful loving wife for my husband of course... but I believe that things should always be 50/50 give and take and never one-sided.
I feel you on that 110%
Its just hard for me to get past that whole " man of the house " idea. Yea its traditional and how things have been for a long time...but I just cant be that kinda wife. EVERYTHING in the house needs to be 50/50 with us. I HATE with a PASSION to see a wife who jumps to her husbands needs and wants all the time...it just bothers me so much. Especially when it bothers her, but she doesnt speak up for herself. As much as a guy may not wanna admit it, I think a guy can love and respect his a stong minded independent woman/wife even more when she takes charge and does things her way sometimes, and not just do whatever he wants to make him feel more like a man. As far as Im concerend me and my husband will BOTH be head of the household...which means if I wanna sit at the head table sometimes I will, cause I got it like that...lol
the problem with 50/50 is that if you dont do your "50%", or your spouse doesn't do their 50 then the house is screwed up...if both people are puttin 100% into the relationship then its all good...a good analogy would be to take two cups and fill them each with half water...50/50 right??..well say you didnt do your half, somethin like bills or somethin,etc... well your spouse has to help you so take their glass and fill your glass with some of their water...now you have more but now your spouse has less than 50..well now you gotta help them out...so take your glass and fill their glass with some of your water..oops now your less than 50...see the pattern?...now take the same two glasses and fill them to the brim (100%)..now lets say the same thing happens with something like bills, well now take your spouse's glass and fill your glass with some water and now its overflowing and now there is no disorder...hope that made sense...
the problem with 50/50 is that if you dont do your "50%", or your spouse doesn't do their 50 then the house is screwed up...if both people are puttin 100% into the relationship then its all good...a good analogy would be to take two cups and fill them each with half water...50/50 right??..well say you didnt do your half, somethin like bills or somethin,etc... well your spouse has to help you so take their glass and fill your glass with some of their water...now you have more but now your spouse has less than 50..well now you gotta help them out...so take your glass and fill their glass with some of your water..oops now your less than 50...see the pattern?...now take the same two glasses and fill them to the brim (100%)..now lets say the same thing happens with something like bills, well now take your spouse's glass and fill your glass with some water and now its overflowing and now there is no disorder...hope that made sense...
lol...nah I see where you coming from...but my point is regardless of whether its 50/50, 100/100...whatever....I just want things to be fair amongst me and my husband. I want us to share our powers, and when one of us needs more help in a responsibilty of caring for the household we are there for each other...its not necesarily dividing powers and responsibilities as to where one has more than the other, etc...Its just important for us to feel like I got your back and you got mine in every and all situations...does that make sense??
the problem with 50/50 is that if you dont do your "50%", or your spouse doesn't do their 50 then the house is screwed up...if both people are puttin 100% into the relationship then its all good...a good analogy would be to take two cups and fill them each with half water...50/50 right??..well say you didnt do your half, somethin like bills or somethin,etc... well your spouse has to help you so take their glass and fill your glass with some of their water...now you have more but now your spouse has less than 50..well now you gotta help them out...so take your glass and fill their glass with some of your water..oops now your less than 50...see the pattern?...now take the same two glasses and fill them to the brim (100%)..now lets say the same thing happens with something like bills, well now take your spouse's glass and fill your glass with some water and now its overflowing and now there is no disorder...hope that made sense...
lol...nah I see where you coming from...but my point is regardless of whether its 50/50, 100/100...whatever....I just want things to be fair amongst me and my husband. I want us to share our powers, and when one of us needs more help in a responsibilty of caring for the household we are there for each other...its not necesarily dividing powers and responsibilities as to where one has more than the other, etc...Its just important for us to feel like I got your back and you got mine in every and all situations...does that make sense??
yeah that made sense...in your words, i feel you 110%
