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Obama vs Clinton Posted on 04-10-2007

phd1974
Lebanon, PA
Looking at the growing number of candidates for the Democratic nomination, it is clear to me that the race is really between Obama and Clinton. Everyone else is really shoved to the side. It would take a monumental downfall for these two to not be 1-2 in the running. In this case, it would lead voters to vote for the following for President: 1.) Be led by a woman 2.) Be led by a black man 3.) Vote Republican I still do not think America will want the country to be led by a woman. I do not mean to sound male chauvinistic or anything, but that is what I feel. And let's face it, women had the right to vote waaay before they let any black folk do it, man or woman. And then there's the Republican vote. The last 2 Republican Presidents led us to war, with the more recent one, seemingly not knowing what he is doing. So what will the average Joe (*I mean white America*) do when they have to make that choice? I would be very curious to see what the outcome would be, especially the traditional Democratic voting white male. As for the above mentioned person, I am reminded of a clip from Brewsters Millions when he told the People to vote None Of The Above.
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NeoSoulBrotha from Rosedale, MD replied on 04-10-2007 07:08PM [Reply]

What Clinton has going for her... 1. Lots of campaign funding 2. Well recognized by her supporters 3. A clear platform and position What Clinton is working against... 1. Well recognized by her opponents 2. May be seen by moderates as too liberal 3. An easy target for conservatives - seen as weak on national defense What Obama has going for him... 1. Backed by influential organizations 2. Positive image and charisma 3. Strong crossover appeal What Obama is working against... 1. A relatively weak platform targeting moderates 2. A high-visibility opponent (Clinton) and possible pressure to bow out 3. Lukewarm reception by traditionally Democratic voters - seen as privileged This is going to be a very interesting primary. As you said, the real competition for the upcoming election is within the Democratic party; the RNC doesn't have a strong contender in the race (I don't consider Rudy Giuliani a strong contender within his party). The **** does have some hot-button issues to rally their voters, like **** reform, but not enough to overcome a well-orchestrated campaign by the dems. Given the current political climate, anything could happen. But based upon the trends I'm seeing, especially the momentum behind the anti-war movement, I would probably expect to see Hillary in office. (not necessarily my personal preference, simply the expected outcome).
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Vaneese replied on 04-15-2007 09:14PM [Reply]
Is John Edwards still in the running? If so, I think it will be him. Clinton is a woman and Obama is black. There is nothing in the history of America that states that this country is ready for a woman or black person. In places like Africa and England, its acceptable and therefore not taboo when it happens, but in America, white-bred America, its unforeseen and therefore unacceptable. To be honest, I DO NOT see Clinton or Obama becoming president. Sad, but my feelings.
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iluv_me from Atlanta, GA replied on 05-01-2007 02:43PM [Reply]

It all depends if barrack wins the ticket i'll follow him. If hillary takes the ticket gulliani here i come.
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CN1CE from Brooklyn, NY replied on 05-24-2007 09:17AM [Reply]

In our hearts, we want Obama to take it. But our brains know Clinton would get it first. Truth be told, people would probably go the safe route with John Edwards and I respect that decision.
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revqjr replied on 05-29-2007 03:43PM [Reply]
Even though I am not a Democrat, I believe that if I had to vote for a Democrat it will be Senator Hillary. In all retrospect, Senator Hillary has more experience that Senator Barak. I was just reading in his book how hard of a time he had getting the Senate seat. I believe that he need to wait and gain more experience before trying to take on the Presidency; Although, it would be nice to have a black President, but to have an inexperienced one would be horriffying.
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chabwera replied on 05-30-2007 06:19AM [Reply]
The reason why I say this is becasue: 1) Obama is black, we are only 50years past the Civil Rights movement. This means, most folks still have (covertly) the same prejudices they had during the segregated times, and they will express those or act on those prejudices behind closed doors (does voting boot ring a bell?) 2) Hillary is a woman. America is not ready for a female President nor will a majority (51% plus, of the population) of the population vote for a woman. Yes woman have down tremendous things in the start of this new century and before. But for a woman to become President of the United States of America, she will have to wait couple more elections. 3) The next President will be a Democrat. Either Edwards, because he is white, upper class and has connections with both the elite and the regulars, or Al Gore, he never said he would not enter the race. He is doing what FDR did the third time he got re-elected President, ie stay in the public eye and make them beg you to return.
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candicej1983 from New York, NY replied on 05-30-2007 07:42AM [Reply]
Interesting topic. Just to be aware, continue to keep an eye in what both parties are saying. I never watched a republican debate before, but it was interesting to see what the candidates had to say. Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind seeing either of them in the White House even though we are still dealing with the mindsets of old ways of thinking if you understand what I mean. Good topic of discssion.
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NECKBONE replied on 06-04-2007 08:31PM [Reply]
Its a shame that Senator Joe Biden, who in my opinion has hit all the key issues right on, doesnt have a realistic chance.
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iluv_me from Atlanta, GA replied on 06-07-2007 12:48AM [Reply]

revqjr wrote:
Even though I am not a Democrat, I believe that if I had to vote for a Democrat it will be Senator Hillary. In all retrospect, Senator Hillary has more experience that Senator Barak. I was just reading in his book how hard of a time he had getting the Senate seat. I believe that he need to wait and gain more experience before trying to take on the Presidency; Although, it would be nice to have a black President, but to have an inexperienced one would be horriffying.
We already have one. Barrack isn't as inexperinced as he may seem. During his time in senate he has had the most progression in changing there state for the better, and he has been a campaign manger so he knows the trick of the trade especially when it comes to get funding. Hilliary doesn't talk about the issues enough for me she never discusses any of her policies, but how america needs to change. We already had a campaign like that I don't know if yall remember (2004), and look where were at now. But that's my opinion.
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