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Imposing on Existence Posted on 11-19-2004
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I have never attended any HBCUs, because of my preferred major. But, I have always loved these schools for what they do and the opportunities that they provide. There are groups/ organizations now questioning if the HBCUs as a whole are relevent. :evil: This really peturbed me because of the simple fact that these schools are apart of each and every black students history. Even if they are like me and never went to a HBCU, the people that inspired me to continue me education (my mother & grandmother) went to HBCUs. They also stated that it was like reversing history because, blacks faught so hard for integrated schools/colleges. Then they turn around and have all black colleges. They say even if the institutions have other races it is at such a low percentage that it deosn't make a big difference!! I felt this needed to be brouhgt to some one's attention, Tell me how you feel.
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atlprincess from College Park, GA replied on 11-19-2004 07:00PM [Reply]

I understand every point you are making and I understand how you feel. I think its important for people to realize that most HBCU's were founded because our white counterparts did not allow us into their schools. And may I add, most HBCU's were founded by whites, so they obviously wanted us to receive an education, but just not in the same schools as them. A lot of these HBCU's were centered around agriculture since they felt Blacks did a lot of work with their hands...which is true. But because of people like W.E.B. DuBois, we were not limited to only agricultural work. I don't see how people could think that HBCU's are irrelevant. Personally speaking, coming to an HBCU (even though I have been here for only a couple of months) has allowed me to learn about my history and how my people fought in order to keep my school alive and running. Coming from an all white high school, we never celebrated Black History Month because people could not understand why we (blacks) had to have an entire month dedicated to us. This really bothered me and furthered my need and desire to attend an HBCU. Yes, blacks fought hard to gain entrance into PWI's....but you can't help the fact that people might not want to attend PWI's. But, if you look at the percentage of blacks at most white institutions, you will see the numbers are growing each year. I know there are a large number of minorities here....but saying that there are few minorities at HBCU's is crazy. I don't know what numbers they are referencing. But in refute, one could say that the population of minorities in PWI's is not enough to make a significant contribution...so I guess it just depends on who you are. But, another thing that has been bothering me is that if you look at a lot of PWI's, many of the athletes are Black. But I do have to say, if I could have done things differently...because of my major I would have gone to another school. But I am happy with my decision and I feel I will learn life lessons and more about myself from being at an HBCU.
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prettypoet8804 from Hayward, CA replied on 11-30-2004 12:39AM [Reply]

i've heard this same argument more times than i would have liked to. i personally feel that HBCU's are even more important today than they were in the past because of our generation's loss of culture. i think that a college is supposed to cater to your whole person, not just your mind. i think that HBCU's create an atmosphere where bright black students can come together with other black bright students. what is more inspiring and motivational than being around thousands of people who share your background AND are wildly intelligent and creative, etc? i don't know if i can speak on this topic as well as the next person because i don't yet attend an HBCU but these are the reasons that have attracted me to them.
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HU_PrincessAyngel from W-S, NC replied on 01-03-2005 11:03PM [Reply]

hbcus are apathetic hotbeds of disillusioned and oasis-situated black students. the environment breeds to much comfort, making for some of the nations least active students. we focus to much on material gain (thus teh popularity of HUs business school!) and we are encased in a party-hardy attitude so deeply that the intellectual fervor on our campuses is seriously in need of a facelift. there are no intellectual students talking about issues here; for the most part Jay Z and Gucci dominate the our out-of-class confabulation! thats why im leaving!!!!! just my opinion tho.... :lol:
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ThatClassyGirl216 replied on 01-04-2005 12:16PM [Reply]
^^^ wow ur leaving Howard? Never heard that one before... Now that I don't go to an HBCU and have seen both sides, I have a newfound appreciation. While students at an HBCU do tend to stress fashion too much at times, u still get a priceless education about ur own culture...I hated it when I was there but now I kinda miss it (not enough to go back tho)...for some it's empowering to be surrounded by people of their own race who only want to succeed but for others, like me, it was just downright annoying to be surrounded by only black people 24-7. Still, when I get rich and "make it" I do plan to give to HBCUs, just as if they were my alma mater, because I believe in helping out ur own culture...I would never question the relevance of HBCUs because they have educated a large amount of our African American community leaders who would have otherwise may not have had the chance to succeed.
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The Black and Olde Gold replied on 04-25-2005 10:45AM [Reply]
HU_PrincessAyngel wrote:
hbcus are apathetic hotbeds of disillusioned and oasis-situated black students. the environment breeds to much comfort, making for some of the nations least active students. we focus to much on material gain (thus teh popularity of HUs business school!) and we are encased in a party-hardy attitude so deeply that the intellectual fervor on our campuses is seriously in need of a facelift. there are no intellectual students talking about issues here; for the most part Jay Z and Gucci dominate the our out-of-class confabulation! thats why im leaving!!!!! just my opinion tho.... :lol:
I'm glad to hear that you are leaving Howard. Howard is a great institution that doesn't deserve someone with an attitude like yours. Maybe there was a particular instance that soured your opinion of HU? However, in my full four years @ Howard, I encountered a variety of people who helped to shape me into the person that I am today. I love rap music and will argue about who's the best. However, I can switch it up and talk about the impact of European imperialism on Africa's current situation, all while wearing my $300 sunglasses. Maybe you just run in the wrong circles or maybe you never allowed your circle to expand beyond you. Good luck and hopefully you will one day see the light. Just my '06 cents.
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replied on 07-09-2005 11:15PM [Reply]
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another thing that has been bothering me is that if you look at a lot of PWI's, many of the athletes are Black.
I like how u brought this up. Being at an HBCU how do we get black athletes to attend HBCUs. They have a sterotype that they will be better off at a PWI anyways
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AfroPoeticSista replied on 10-11-2005 07:45PM [Reply]
HU_PrincessAyngel wrote:
we are encased in a party-hardy attitude so deeply that the intellectual fervor on our campuses is seriously in need of a facelift. there are no intellectual students talking about issues here; for the most part Jay Z and Gucci dominate the our out-of-class confabulation!
Sadly, this is true. I have been at JSU for half of a term and was slightly let down. I mean, yes, I appreciate being in classrooms with so many goal-oriented young Black people who actually care about their future. But, unfortunately, those are STILL the minority. The majority of people in my classes still cheat on quizzes, still crack on their professors the ENTIRE class period, still blow off studying to get **** or f*cked on a regular basis, still give their instructors attitude, and still waste their money by skipping classes, forgetting that we are GROWN now and its not cool to skip class "cuz you don't feel like going". I've met so many people who don't have ANY idea what they are doing in college, treating it as an extension of high school, who will be rudely awakened when they get those transcripts. And there are people in my hood who WANT to go but their circumstances won't allow. :x Everytime I try to have a conversation with someone about a social issue, current events, or some other important aspect of the Black community, its like i'm talking to myself because there is still much apathy among the young Black community, and many youths haven't been educated about the basics OF those issues. Its a circle. Unless, of course, we want to get into a "bash the white man" conversation. Then everyone will jump in. Allways want to talk about what has been done, never want to talk about what we gon' do.
THISdude wrote:
thats why im leaving!!!!!
Hell no. I'm not leaving. There must be others like me on this campus. i just ain't met em yet. Maybe I can be a voice to stimulate others who don't care.
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Hebrewwoman from Houston, TX replied on 01-14-2006 03:07PM [Reply]
Shalom Brothers and sisters, I attend Texas Southern University and contrary to what people believe it is not easy at Black Univeristies. Our problem has nothing to do with HBCU our problem has to do with our ignorance of the struggle the fight our people have done since the beginning of time. Don't get it twisted we have been fighting these pagans since we were in Israel and they were in Rome. It's now getting to the time and season for us to know the truth about who we are and it's about to be a war in America. ELI's(God) Children against the Devil(White Man). One day the truth will be known. www.divineunity1.com Hebrewwoman
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CrunkMonkey85 from Atlanta, GA replied on 01-14-2006 06:28PM [Reply]

since I was weirded out and confused by the talk of pagans and White Devil, I will pretend that Tori still has the last post. seriously, I have to meet this girl someday. wise beyond her years. :-D
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