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Sin

Sin
Posted By: Ayanna Muhammad on November 02, 2005

i have been talking to a lot of people about sin lately, then i get a hit on my page, so i check that and end up searching through the members posts and pages. i end up running into this young sister at southern who was catching a lot of slack for being a lesbian and a christian. it was funny to me because a few people, i saw, were telling her that she could not be both. it brought me back to the conversations i had been having with people lately.

personally, i do not believe in sin. and this is a complex concept for people to hear coming from me, because i was raised as a muslim. most muslims, especially muslim women, are very cautious of sin. we live our lives to a very strict law that prohibits almost everything. however, my father also taught me to question things.

in my mind, i look at the power that we say god has. we say that he has control over everything in the world and beyond. he even has power over the devil because he created the devil. now, if this is true, then how powerful do we think we are to believe that we can do something that is not his will?

i was always cautioned against believing in superstitions. many people warned me to be very careful when i was living in new orleans because there are people down there who believe in voodoo and that was not supposed to be right with god because "those people" believe that they can do things that give them power over others. (how many men will admit to being warned not to eat a woman's spaghetti?)

well, for me, believing in sin is superstitious. we are saying that god has so little power over us that we can do something that he does not want us to do (we call it free will), then we will turn around and say that god knows and sees all.



well, if he knew what i was giong to do before i did it and still allowed me to do it, didn't he want me to do it? wasn't it his will if he did not intervene? if he wanted me to stop, couldn't he make me if he wanted to?

well, i am a pretty logical person, so i try to look at things from many perspectives. so i think well, god may want us to have certain experiences so that we can learn from them. god allows us to sin because he wants us to choose his way. okay, but i have children. if my son is throwing rocks outside and breaks a window, he was wrong for throwing rocks and i was wrong for not watching him and stopping him. so how can i really be fair in punishing him for doing something i allowed him to do? does that make sense?

my main point is i don't think that i have the power to defy god. i've heard it said that god has a plan for me. that he knew who i was and who i was going to be before i was conceived. that he has absolute power and is the head of all things. well, i would be pretty stupid to think that lil ole me has the strength to do anything that god did not sanction and commission me to do.

we do not know why god allows "bad" things to happen. when someone close to me was murdered, i was told that god decided that it was my friends time to go. that made me wonder if god had orchestrated this whole argument so that he could have a way to bring my friend's soul back to him. if that is true, then god made that young man murder my friend. he knew that it was going to happen before either of us were born and it was his will, so it was done.

in the same respect, this young woman was being attacked from all sides, even from her pastor himself, for being a lesbian. who said that was wrong? god didn't, not even jesus, paul did. many years after jesus was crucified, and most scholars say that paul never even knew jesus he became an apostle through a man named sosthenes. I Cor 13 even asks "was paul crucified for you or were you baptized in the name of paul?" so was god now manifesting himself through paul since jesus was gone...? i don't know, i'll have to leave that one up to the christians.
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Anthony Dillon
Lincoln University -Missouri class of 2005
When God created man he gave us free will to make choices which are good or bad. God is a jealous God; he wants us to believe in him and do right by him even through temptations. For example, I see a watch in a store, but I can't afford it... should I steal it or walk away if I can't afford it. God knows what we going to do he just want to see if the watch is more important than following his will.
Wednesday, November 2nd 2005 at 8:20PM
Marshall "Squill" Miles
South Carolina State University class of 1996
God is Jealous?.. are you serious??
Wednesday, November 2nd 2005 at 8:56PM
The bible says he is a jealous God, so yes Mr. Dillon is serious. The bible also says that God made us "creatures of choice"
Thursday, November 3rd 2005 at 8:39AM
SIE aka george simons
orderly at helping hands elder home care
this is deep...


i believe if u are muslim


or if u are christian

a woman

or a man

can not make the choice or live his/ her life to want to have s*xually and etc... relationships with the same... for example man with a man.... woman with a man...


"" you can not serve two masters""






>>
Thursday, November 3rd 2005 at 3:38PM
Ayanna Muhammad
Grambling State University class of 1999
okay, i'll bite...god is jealous, which is a human trait. this means that god experiences low self-esteem like we do and feels like if you choose someone or something else over him, then... what? he feels less than the ALMIGHTY RULER OF THE UNIVERSE just because i stole a watch or had s*x or... i don't know, shot somebody?

well, i know that religion is a touchy subject and a lot of people believe in what they need to believe in (or were told to believe in). but for me, i don't know what's in it for god. i'm sure it is hard for most people to think outside of the box they've been put in, but i can't see myself worshipping a god that has so little to do that he spends every waking hour in a perpetual struggle for attention. the picture you paint is like a child who throws a temper tantrum when you don't give him your undivided attention. i mean, i've been able to mature enough to know that everybody's not going to like me, understand me, trust me, etc. and i'm okay with that. but hey, i'm not god. who am i to say what's most important to him. but then again, who are any of us?
Thursday, November 3rd 2005 at 4:13PM
Jaunice Moore
Wilberforce University class of 2004
Everyone has made a very good point. But God is a jealous God, not in the form of a human trait, but he wants your whole heart, he wants you to serve him with all of you not just 50% of you that is what is defined as God being a jealous God. You are serving God or Satan you can’t be in between. God deserves all of you, he wont take anything less (why should he is God Almighty).
As for as the young lady that is lesbian, God made it clear that he made man for woman and woman for man, by changing that we are tampering with his master plan. God gave us the power of choice he could have made us all to be followers of him but he said who so is willing let him come. I dare not judge anyone because we as people have to realize that no sin is greater than the next.
What is the difference between being a lesbian and commenting adultery or fornication? In God’s eyes no sin is greater than the next. So what gives us the right to come down on anyone? God said who’s without sin cast the first stone.
So let’s focus more on our own personal sins that we comment daily, because we fall short daily. But God’s grace and mercy keeps us.
So to that young lady seek the Lord for yourself because you will have to stand before him ALONE. And you won’t have any excuse not to have lived the life that God as planed for you.

Friday, November 4th 2005 at 9:45AM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
Florida A&M University class of 1995
Wow...
I can say a lot to this.
I say test out your own theory in common sense.
Go out and be in the middle of the act of murder and look up and ask God to take you.
No one cannot be gay and a christian at the same time. Not if active.
The world always try to confuse what the world wants to do anyway. Chice, right. Always ends up negative though.
Right is right, wrong is wrong, mixtures do not work. I just tell people to keep on living.
I know Muslim and Islam do not agree with some statements I see here, what some things are implied and stated here are twists to universal spirituality.
I say what a person states and believes they are...
Right, choice etc.
There is a difference between religion and spiritual. Spiritual approaches people in boldness, respect, tact etc. I call that true love:-)
I can now see why there are rare cases where people may not not contact back, but assumptions... This is right and given choice also.
We all must live and die.
Superstition and spirituality are at the farthest ends of the spectrum. But you know this. Facts and walking under ladders...
Words can be used so many ways.
I had to answer I know some avoid. My choice, right also.
I leave it at that.
Peace
Monday, November 21st 2005 at 4:16PM
Branden Jones
Workforce Development Consultant II at Louisiana Workforce Commission
I want everyone who reads this to pay close attention to what is written here.

Sin is the issue that has plagued the world since the fall in the Garden of Eden. It is the very thing that does in fact separate us from God. It brings death. Death to the soul and spirit, and often to the physical body. Spiritual death is what separated us from God. Not knowing Him, and his goodness.

Man does have free will to choose. God gave Adam the choice between the blessing and the curse. Adam chose the curse by his own free will. Did God tempt Adam? Not at all. Just because the Grand Canyon has a cliff doesn't mean that God tempts Arizona tourists to jump.

Next, Christianity is NOT a religion. I repeat NOT a religion. Many false prophets and teachers have gone out and gave us a system of works and "chores" to do to be a Christian. But that is not why Christ died. In fact, he died for just the opposite. Man cannot do anything to reconcile himself to God. Christ died for all. ALL. ALL. That we might be reconciled to the Father. But other religions, including modern-day pseudo Christianity, have a systematic process of things to do, foods to refrain from, etc. that they cannot live up to. That's why you need Christ. Only he could pay the debt. And only the Spirit of Christ can purify you from sin.

Many Christians today even think that the "faith-based initiative" and the "purpose driven life" is going to do something for them and for God but "...by GRACE are you saved through faith; and that NOT of yourselves: it is the
gift of GOD; Not of works, lest any man should boast." Eph 2:9

It is a serious shame how prideful people are. Not willing to deny themselves and their own false sense of goodness.

For the young lady who is a lesbian: homos*xuality is not condoned in the Bible, sweetie. But Jesus died to make atonement for the sin of the entire world and CLEANSE us from it. If you acknowledge that water and soap can clean hands, then why not let the water and soap clean your hands. Especially, when it is given freely. Christ did not come to condemn. Sin condemns. Jesus saves. But if he paid the debt and you acknowledge that (that's what being a Christian is) then why still hold on to the bills? I love you. And so does Jesus Christ, even unto death so that you might be reconciled to the Father.

In essence, your "destiny" is to be reconciled to God, through the shed blood of Jesus Christ. You don't have to believe that. But your life depends on it.

For the Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, and unsure "Christians," to the atheists, gnostics, etc. There is but one way: Jesus Christ and him crucified. His death is a victory, not a defeat. A victory for ALL who believe. A stumbling block to those who don't. It doesn't matter what you've done. For when he comes to receive us to himself, many prison cells will be bare, many tombs will be emptied.

The GOSPEL is and only is: Jesus Christ crucified defeated Satan's work, and his shed blood makes atonement for sin and reconciles us to God. Not because we're good, because we're not. But because God is love.

peace and grace.

BJ

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 at 10:57AM
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