Does anyone else here believe that the Bible is hilarious?
God smited people for skeeting on the ground, King David **** some guy so he could bone his wife and one guy rapes his sister and desecrates her. You can't get more vile in a book!
THIS BOOK IS AWESOME.
So, this I made this post for religious debates because I am considerably bored and Christianity is the easiest to pick on since it's so broken. Who here studies...and I mean STUDIED...the bible?
Thunder
Okay... any time now... this is getting out of hand... ah forget it. I just need to stay out of this thread forever and ever.
But yet you're still here?! Hmmm...If you have something to say then say it. This is an open discussion.
I have nothing to say, especially with people throwing the book(s) at each other like that. I guess I'm still here cuz this is interesting reading. I just keep forgetting that angry, personal, name-calling debate don't mean we can't all get along the next morning.
I just keep forgetting that angry, personal, name-calling debate don't mean we can't all get along the next morning.
Oh right, I keep forgetting that I'm the only one who really worries that we won't all be friends in the morning. Sure, I get into heated arguments, but they tend to haunt me forever for no reason. I guess that's just me afraid that being me will ruin me. Maybe I should add that to the "flawless" thread. I really am gonna shut up now!
didn't read anything else through this topic since my last post, but let me just say that people who don't believe in God or at leats a higher power are the stupidest beings on this planet...
did yall know even einstien believed in a high power? so what are you smarter than einstien?
nice...
(sp)@einstien... (stacy dash)
Not stupid just lost...No need to insult people.
stupid, selfish, concieted....
to think that everything ends with thier monkey ****...
smh...
i dunno i just get really annoyed with people who think the idea of a higher power is silly....do any of these cats know anything about string theory or parralel universes? do any of these cats know what a wormhole is? no...
this universe is soo complicated...and if you could put the knowledge of man (everything that we know) into a bucket, how much do you think would be filled up? man doen't know sh!t...
smh...>>
I like you. You left your belief at the front door and came with the facts. It's incredibly hard trying to argue cross/stake with a Witness.
If you are going to refer to the first Bible, well then your must refer, as I said...to it entirely. That first Bible was completely terrible and ill-written, as evidenced by the complete persecution (not literal) of the text by the Pharisee, whom later outcasted those ex-Essenes who followed Jesus' teaching; and later became known as Christians.
I'm not going to follow up on the whole cross/stake thing. A) I don't care what Jesus' died on...cross or stake...some even say he was assassinated he died for our sins regardless B) Trying to convince a Jehovah's Witness is probably the dumbest thing I ever tried. You all study scripture with the seriousness.
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when all the apostles were **** and chrisitianity started adapting pagan rituals
As I said, if you know of the **** Sea Scrolls and Judaism, you would DEFINITELY not say that.
OK F*CK THIS ONE. This is probably one of the most useless points made towards his argument. I refuse to dwell any more on it :lol: . Let's just agree to disagree on cross/stake/pike/spear/assassination.
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if u wanna get on spelling errors lets talk about John 1:1 "In the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
SCREECH!
No, in the original Greek, that last phrase, "and the Word was God" was misspelled in the King James version, and that mistake has been copied. It should read, "and the Word was a god", since "theos"(a god, or godlike) is a singular predicate noun and is not preceded by the definite article. this would b an anarthrous "theos", as opposed to a personality.. It expresses a caertain quality about the Word, or Logos, but it doesn't identify him as one and the same with God himself. Other translators got it rite, translating it "and the Word was divine," or "and the Logos was like God."
I completely missed the point of this. Spelling errors are somewhat common, but FAR LESS COMMON on an engraving. They just don't take out a stone and start chiseling; they practice, check for perfection and execute. The main belief is that the tomb is not that of James', Jesus' brother to most people.
And on the Alpha and Omega. Whether or not you consider him the Alpha and Omega, scripture does, and that is all that the author was alluding to.
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As a believer I don't know whether to laugh wit yall or be offended. Having fun (not making fun) with the bible is not that big of a deal, but when you begin to mock God and Jesus, you steppin into something more serious than you think. Some of yall better be careful.
Who said I was making fun of it? I'm simply backing up a hypothesis that could VERY WELL hold true in accordance with scriptures from TWO (TWO!!!!!!!!) other religions that are far more historic than Christianity and have much more bearing. I'm not denouncing Christianity, I'm just letting everyone know of it's current issues; and the things people have been coming up with for some time...that Christians tend to just "shrug off".
I've spent my time defending Christians also...anyone read The DaVinchi
Code or Holy Grail, Holy Blood?
Who wants to talk about Scientology? ****.
Thunder
I like you. You left your belief at the front door and came with the facts. It's incredibly hard trying to argue cross/stake with a Witness.
Thunder
left my belief at the front door? Huh? Everything I've posted is integral to the belief system of ALL Jehovah's Witnesses.
As for the John 1:1 thing, that was for whoever said that God was a trinity.
As for Alpha and Omega, scripture doesn't say that.
Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1, pp80-81 wrote:
"While many commentators apply this title both to God and to Christ, a more careful examiniation of its use restricts its application to [YHWH, Jehovah, Yahweh] God. The first verse of REvelation shows that the revelation was given orginally by God and through Jesus Christ, hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative) at times is God himself, and at other times it is Christ Jesus (Re 22:8) Thus Revelation 1:8(RS) says: " 'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God ["Jehovah/Yahweh/YHWH God"], who is and who was and who is to come, the Almight." Althought the preceding verse speaks of Christ Jesus, it is clear that in verse 8 the application of the title is to "the Althmight" God. In this regard Barnes' Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: 'It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here. . .There is no real incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such.'
The final occurrence of the title is at Revelation 22:13, which states: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." It is evident that a number of persons are represented as speaking in this chapter of Revelation; verses 8 and 9 show that the angel spoke to John, 16 obviously applies to Jesus, and the one speaking in the latter part of verse 20 is John himself. "The Alpha and the Omega" of verses 12-15,, therefore, may properly be identified as the same one who bears the title in the other two occurences: Jehovah God. The expression, "Look! I am coming quickly, " in verse 12, does not require that these aforementioned verses apply to Jesus, inasmuch as God also speaks of himself as "coming" to execure jedgement. Malachi 3:1-6 speaks of a joint coming for judgement on the part of Jehovah/YHWH and his "messenger of the covenant"
*edited a buncha philosophical crap
Anyways, to Midwest, I never assumed. I said this, I could go on and on about Buddhism, but what if you know very little about it, and that presents me almost no room to hypothesize something that you would understand.
After I have repeatedly said I do not assume anything during a debate, you go on to make some ridiculous statement that I assumed something. If your going to come at me like that, then you'd better be damn sure your 100% under every single circumstance. I stated that you MIGHT NOT know very much about it, that's far from saying you DON'T know very much about it.
But since you stated you know a little bit about Buhhdism, let's test what "little bit" means:
What was the Nara belief similiar with amongst the Judaism branch and how did it differ directly from Mahayana, even though their treatises often taught similiar beliefs?
This is not a hard question at all. But...it can't be googled .
Why not make it an open question? If anyone can answer that, then I will go put other religions on blast.
Thunder
ummm when i said i knew a lil bit thats EXACTLY what i meant.whats your point. a "little bit" means you know some general things but you dont know the in depth things about it.
I really havent caught much from this thread cause I havent been around to read it but one thing I did notice was the talk about christians and hypocrisy and I notice that alot. Thats one thing that gives real christians and of course God a bad reputation. And thats why there are so many people who walk into a congregation and walk right back out cause they see people bein just like them. But overall a christian is one by works and not by title. Just because somebody is in a congregation, goin to service and even faithful to their congregation, doesnt mean that they are actually apart of the church.
One with God according to the word of God living all they can with what they know. No one is perfect but if someone says that they are livin for God and living a sinful lifestyle, conformed to Christ none whatsoever, among the world and doin what the world does then they cant live for God.
I dont know whats bein debated really or what goal is tryn to be reached. Can somebody fill me in though. What exactly is everybody tryn to conclude on?
Wow. I tell you about know-it-alls! I will believe in what I believe in, and you shall believe in what you believe in...
There is no need for me to discuss this. I will just pray that you won't have to experience something tragic before you realize what is right!
