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replied on 11-22-2005 09:13PM [Reply]
I have to give Vick a big hand clap for looking like a monster passed the past two games. Hopefully he doesn't completely abandon his feet like Mcnabb started doing. It's good to be able to **** teams from the pocket, but when your within the 20 yard line there's truly no problem thinking run first. Their defense has fallen since losing Ed Hartwell. With him Keith Brooking was that much better and Demario Williams had so much more freedom to utilize that speed. It would be pretty hot if the Eagles could trade Brian Westbrook and their first rounder so they can move down to get Reggie Bush. I still despise the Colts as I always have. Yea, I feel the same way about the Seahawks too. They wouldn't be nothing without Shaun Alexander. The falls that has suprised me: The redskins...and to think, I respected them. Atl...I've always been a firm believer in defense wins games, but the Falcons has the talent to force other teams into shoot-outs and win. I mean, that's at the least. Falls that I expected: Like I said before. KC is trash. Their offense is becoming human, and the Defense still isn't talented enough. Good news is that Larry Johnson is looking like bright spot in Kansas City's offensive future. Unexpected improvements: The Vikings have been handling the business as of late. Bad news is that they can only last for so long with Brad Johnson at QB and a unachieving defense.
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replied on 11-23-2005 03:20PM [Reply]
I always new the Redskins were trash, even when they started 3-0 and everyone was sold on them. Their defense is good (gave up 38 against TB last week though), but they are not going anywhere with Mark Brunell as their QB. He can be good at times and play smart but he's not consistent enough. The Eagles I think have officially entered into "wait till next year" mode. They've lost TO and now McNabb and Lito Sheppard are on IR. With no running game to speak of and Mike McMahon as their starting QB now, they'll be lucky to finish .500 It appears that the NFC East is gonna be a fight between Dallas and NYG. Even though Dallas has already beaten the Giants and are in first place, I look for the Giants to win the division. They have a great balanced offense with Eli Manning on the rise, and their defense is pretty stout too. As for Reggie Bush, it looks like he'll be going to either the Texans or the 49ers. The Texans already have Domanick Davis who is pretty decent so they may pass on him. Kevin Barlow, on the other hand, has been a huge disappointment and should probably be demoted to 2nd string. The 49ers drafting Bush would be good because he's a local and having a good RB would really take alot of pressure off of Alex Smith. I wouldn't rule out the Baltimore Ravens either though. Jamal Lewis is having an awful year and will be a free agent at the end of the season. Having an all purpose back like Bush who is effective in the running and passing game would really help their offense overall. As for teams that are bad that I expected to be bad, the only thing that the Raiders have surprised me about is how they beat the Redskins on the road by playing good defense. I knew Moss wouldn't catapult them into the playoffs like alot of other people did. They don't get him the ball like they should. It seems like they only wanna throw it to him when he's deep and covered by 2 people. When I look at the Raiders I get the feeling that they are not a team, but just a bunch of individuals playing for personal glory.
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MidWestGentleman from Detroit, MI replied on 11-24-2005 10:50PM [Reply]

im SICK of even tryin to watch the lions!!how can you suck that bad for this long?!
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replied on 11-26-2005 11:37AM [Reply]
All i gotta say is that I'm glad we won the game. It was nice to see Vick return to his normal self where he can beat you with both his arm and his feet instead of limiting himself to staying in the pocket. He completed just over 50% of his passes and threw for less than 200 yards, and I'm not complaining one bit. He had a very efficient game. Now you all see what happens when Vick is using his feet, he spreads the defense out and forces them to change things. Usually a defender will come up and try to stop him, in which case he can dump the ball off to the open receiver for an easy completion. Also, he showed nice touch by not slinging bullet passes the whole time. Major credit goes to our O-line for opening up some huge running lanes for Dunn and Duckett to run through. I don't really see why they decided to put Garcia in at the time they did. Harrington was doing a pretty decent job, its just his receivers were dropping EVERYTHING. They looked like our receivers from 2003 and 2004. From the 2nd quarter on our defense played like the disruptive force that they were last year, bringing the pressure and constantly getting in the backfield forcing the QB into uncomfortable situations. Hopefully Brady Smith will be back soon so our D-line will have more depth and we won't have to play a rookie out of position anymore. We owed the Lions this one considering how they came into our dome last year and handed us our first loss of the year.
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replied on 12-09-2005 12:07AM [Reply]
TheRealOne wrote:
Could someone explain this bit to me...
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2muchWillRanAwayfromHome! from Atlanta, GA replied on 12-11-2005 09:04PM [Reply]

Looks like the Colts beat JVILLE(damnit) but hey there are more games to look foward Like the BIG SHOWDOWN between Atlanta and Chicago. This is a must win for both teams don't look now but the Vikings are a game out in the North. And THE Falcons, well we gotta win out.
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AggieWarrior from Charlotte, NC replied on 12-11-2005 10:09PM [Reply]

and Chicago showed how ineffective the offense is when their defense can't carry the load... when the D for Chicago is down... the Bears are done... plain and simple... Orton is not a good QB at all... hell he hasn't been the same since that Wisconsin/Purdue game in college...
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replied on 12-12-2005 11:02PM [Reply]
An NCAA Athlete wrote:
AggieWarrior wrote:
and Chicago showed how ineffective the offense is when their defense can't carry the load... when the D for Chicago is down... the Bears are done... plain and simple... Orton is not a good QB at all... hell he hasn't been the same since that Wisconsin/Purdue game in college...
Yes, this is true D because I remember when Wisky dogged the crap out of him and got him injured and put his **** out the Heisman race. Kyle wasent the same since then....
I'm not going to say he's a bad QB, but he's a young QB (I'll give him a chance). He has shown a few flashes, and just to reflect, some pretty good QB's had a crappy rookie year. On the bright side, we're still number 2 in the NFC and Orton can't possibly get any worst, so that only leaves room for improvement. Hopefully Mike and Chris will be back next week and some of our players bangs and bruises can get healed up. We played like crap against the Steelers so we have to really make a statement against the Falcons and close out strong on the road to end the season. Orton needs to pick it up and let our d get just a little more rest.
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2muchWillRanAwayfromHome! from Atlanta, GA replied on 12-13-2005 04:34PM [Reply]

SolidifiedByChrist_SBC wrote:
An NCAA Athlete wrote:
AggieWarrior wrote:
and Chicago showed how ineffective the offense is when their defense can't carry the load... when the D for Chicago is down... the Bears are done... plain and simple... Orton is not a good QB at all... hell he hasn't been the same since that Wisconsin/Purdue game in college...
Yes, this is true D because I remember when Wisky dogged the crap out of him and got him injured and put his **** out the Heisman race. Kyle wasent the same since then....
I'm not going to say he's a bad QB, but he's a young QB (I'll give him a chance). He has shown a few flashes, and just to reflect, some pretty good QB's had a crappy rookie year. On the bright side, we're still number 2 in the NFC and Orton can't possibly get any worst, so that only leaves room for improvement. Hopefully Mike and Chris will be back next week and some of our players bangs and bruises can get healed up. We played like crap against the Steelers so we have to really make a statement against the Falcons and close out strong on the road to end the season. Orton needs to pick it up and let our d get just a little more rest.
OH! Just admit it the guy **** just as bad as that Harrington boy in Detriot does. Lets not make any excuses its the defense that is scoring. Their defense averages more points than their offense does a game. They need Philip Rivers Quick! Grossman his name speaks for itself.He is not the answer to the Bears offensive woes. SEEEE YA SUNDAY NIGHT (Falcons 28- Bears 17)
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AggieWarrior from Charlotte, NC replied on 12-14-2005 07:50AM [Reply]

2muchWill wrote:
SolidifiedByChrist_SBC wrote:
An NCAA Athlete wrote:
AggieWarrior wrote:
and Chicago showed how ineffective the offense is when their defense can't carry the load... when the D for Chicago is down... the Bears are done... plain and simple... Orton is not a good QB at all... hell he hasn't been the same since that Wisconsin/Purdue game in college...
Yes, this is true D because I remember when Wisky dogged the crap out of him and got him injured and put his **** out the Heisman race. Kyle wasent the same since then....
I'm not going to say he's a bad QB, but he's a young QB (I'll give him a chance). He has shown a few flashes, and just to reflect, some pretty good QB's had a crappy rookie year. On the bright side, we're still number 2 in the NFC and Orton can't possibly get any worst, so that only leaves room for improvement. Hopefully Mike and Chris will be back next week and some of our players bangs and bruises can get healed up. We played like crap against the Steelers so we have to really make a statement against the Falcons and close out strong on the road to end the season. Orton needs to pick it up and let our d get just a little more rest.
OH! Just admit it the guy **** just as bad as that Harrington boy in Detriot does. Lets not make any excuses its the defense that is scoring. Their defense averages more points than their offense does a game. They need Philip Rivers Quick! Grossman his name speaks for itself.He is not the answer to the Bears offensive woes. SEEEE YA SUNDAY NIGHT (Falcons 28- Bears 17)
thank you.... Phillip Rivers would be a good fit, he'd finally get the opportunity he'll never get in San Diego...
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